Originally Posted by MarkoCL65

Sure we all run the risk. I think I've blown more motors than anyone on this site (my 1500RWHP Supra). I can tell you that when you put a hole in the piston, as Aleks's car did, there is something wrong aside from the amount of power the car is putting out. I've split blocks, bent rods, lifted heads,..all from excessive power. Burning through a piston is not because a power threshold had been exceeded, it's becasue it detonated or went lean. I am not going to speculate on what caused the lean condition or detonation.

Originally Posted by malakasnyc

Eurotrashed damn...............

Originally Posted by MarkoCL65

Sure we all run the risk. I think I've blown more motors than anyone on this site (my 1500RWHP Supra). I can tell you that when you put a hole in the piston, as Aleks's car did, there is something wrong aside from the amount of power the car is putting out. I've split blocks, bent rods, lifted heads,..all from excessive power. Burning through a piston is not because a power threshold had been exceeded, it's becasue it detonated or went lean. I am not going to speculate on what caused the lean condition or detonation.

Originally Posted by aleksandar1099

I would like to first say a few things before I get into the details of my thread. I have avoided doing this for a number of reasons; out of respect, not wanting to deal with drama, not having the time, etc. Unfortunately, because of being written off and downright insulted by Eurocharged not only on the board, in PMs, on the phone, etc I can no longer hold my silence.


Almost every single product LET/Eurocharged offers was tested and developed on my former 2003 E55 AMG (And I also paid just under full price for every product). My car was at both of your shops for weeks at a time, without any schedule, timeframes, completion time, etc., and I never complained once. I enjoyed helping, but my efforts were apparently fruitless, at least for me. I considered all of you, Jerry, Jake, Tony, Andy, Wayne, and Nazar good friends and never wanted to hurt your business even though we had our problems. I even gave you my expensive DJ equipment to use for your Hot Import Nights event without any questions or repayment, and drove you around since your cars were in the show so that we may stay civil to each other, despite our differences. However, with the response you gave about my car on here, and what people I trust have told me they’ve been told by you, I see your true intention was never about friendship or customer service in any way. It is very hard to lose my trust as I always give the benefit of the doubt, but I have been betrayed enough by you and your “shops.”

Here is my story:

First, The previous thread that was about a different car with a blown engine was deleted by the OP, whom never named any names, but simply wanted to give people a reality check that tuning can have consequences if done incorrectly, because I asked him to. It was not due to any mis-information in the thread. Everything that was said was true. After a conversation with the OP we decided that the amount of effort that would be required to address all of the completely false information that was being presented was not worth our effort. Every person must make their own decisions after doing their research, and are stuck with the consequences. I reserve my right to post my opinion and allow others to learn from it.

My car had your 180mm pulley on it, (which was only after countless failures on the dyno due to the pulley and/or install by Eurocharged). We left the shop and the car blew up on the highway. You say it was due to the car having a stock file on it with a 180 pulley. There are many people that have run a 180 pulley without a tune, on the dyno, on the street, and even down the track! So the supposed “stock file”, was not. The car was barely repaired, with me personally having to come out of pocket a lot of money on more than one occasion (thousands in total). The repair/replacement of the motor was mediocre at best, and after multiple times trying to get it fixed, I spent even more out of pocket to get it running right by taking it to people who have knowledge about repairing these engines (which, I must add, was no one who had anything to do with your shop). Just the fact that you have the audacity to say it was my fault shows what kind of company you are, blaming the customer even though you were in control of the car the entire time, and threatening me over text messages does not help either. I need to be blunt, and what you tell people over PM's and phone conversations about my car and myself is insulting. You said that my car's engine failure was due to a clogged oil passageway to another member here. When has that ever been brought up since the incident happened! Your story changes by the month, to the point where I don’t even know what your current explanation is! I'm sorry, but your explanation is a complete and blatant lie. My car was completely under your control the entire time. There was never a mention of an "oil passageway problem" because that never occurred. I was your shop car for a very long time. I couldn't even tell you how much in gas I spent in my car and my friend's cars that would give me rides to the shop for false promises and lies about when the car was going to be done. The repair on my engine was awful. You say that you helped me out by taking care of my car and getting a new engine installed. In truth, what happened is that I lost a car for 12 weeks, and got back something that did not even closely resemble my car. It ran hot and leaked everywhere (even though you and your dealer tech deny it). It was filthy, it looked like hell, and it was a disgrace. I lost my car for a lot of events I would have loved to have participated in, and when I got it back, it did not even work correctly! I took it to a real certified Mercedes tech, and he fixed the car to an actual running state, again out of my pocket. You did me no favors, and I am insulted again that you believe that you did. You did not let me take pictures of the damage because you told me you believe that your tech would be in trouble if something got out about it... now I realize why you didn't, a little bit of damage control insurance. I will put in more details of how it was handled if necessary.


Finally, I even gave you the benefit of the doubt again when you could not return the money from one of the pulley's I bought and got to use. So you offered a new pulley. I really did not want it, but everyone can fall on hard times and I understood it is hard to put together cash sometimes, so I said fine. It was installed at your shop by Eurocharged. This is something that again, you lied about to other members here. It is beside me that you blatantly lied again to save face, especially something that can be disproven as easy as the pulley install with paperwork. Shortly after the pulley was installed, while driving on the highway, the car lost power and a lot of warning lights came on. I pulled over to see the pulley had completely disassembled itself. I had to car towed to my dealer because I needed the car to be fixed properly and in a timely manner, and it was. They made the repair bill as small as possible and clearly highlighted everything that had happened with it. I brought all of the parts over to your shop to be looked at, and asked for a reimbursement since the problem was clearly caused by the pulley. I was told, by your shop, that the pulley failed because the idler pulley stopped, transferred that energy (apparently through the belt) to the CRANKSHAFT of the car, and caused the pulley to catastrophically fail. This is exactly what I was told. It is physically impossible to have that happen. After more negotiating, I finally was reimbursed the costs of the parts and pulley, but not for labor. Eurocharged believed that I should have taken the car to them first, but I stand by my statement that they could not properly repair it nor would any sane person, after the treatment I had received, trust you ever again. It goes to show that no good deed goes unpunished, and even after using what little faith I had left in you to install another pulley, another KABOOM. So once again, I ate the cost out of my pocket again. I have pictures of the entire event, and problem if need be.
There are more small events that occurred, but these are the ones that I really need to tell.


This is my story and I hope everyone can draw their own opinions from it. I do not have my car anymore, and fortunately before I sold it I was able to get it running well, so I have no reason here other than to protect other members of the community for writing this. Some of you may notice there are MANY members here in the Midwest that do NOT use Eurocharged products, and I can tell you it is for a reason. It’s not just my story, its many others that don’t make it onto the forums. I have nothing to gain from posting this, I merely feel it is time for the truth to be told.


Aleks

Originally Posted by jrcart

Aleks, I just thought of something, you should maybe consider begging the mods to take this thread down. It appears you may have filed a fraudulant warranty claim for a blown motor by putting everything back to stock after you blew it up. Posting all the modifications on your car when it blew in a public forum could possibly backfire on you either legally and/or financially/civil. I like you, you're a good guy and would hate to see anything come back to bite you in the azz. I'm no attorney but I think this kind of stuff is taken pretty seriously and I'm sure that the new motor cost the warranty company a pretty penny or two.

Originally Posted by citylightva

Love the new sig man..!!

Originally Posted by Almo

Hmmm... someone check the injector of the cylinder.

Originally Posted by Almo

Aleks,

Quick questions to confirm, you changed pulley and didn't get a tune? Did you least check A/F, spark across the curve especially in the higher RPMs? What octane were you running? I've seen some that are lean and some that are very rich with pulley and no tune. Good insurance to always tune if you pulley and up the boost. What other mods were on the car when you did the pulley with no tune?

Also, you state "spent even more out of pocket to get it running right by taking it to people who have knowledge about repairing these engines (which, I must add, was no one who had anything to do with your shop). Just the fact that you have the audacity to say it was my fault shows what kind of company you are, blaming the customer even though you were in control of the car the entire time"

Sounds like the car wasn't at Eurocharged the entire time? Maybe you typed your paragraph wrong but then again, you state later you were back and then took it to another person and then back again? Can you clarify please? How many people worked on your car? Did you buy the car used and where did you buy it?

Originally Posted by aleksandar1099

First, Thank you to everyone for your comments. I appreciate the support!!!

Allow me to explain again. They had control of my car the ENTIRE time, and everything that was done on the car was THEIR doing. Everything that I wrote in my original statement is 100% true. It only left their shop MONTHS later, after they couldn't get it to run right.

I do not mean to come off as harsh or aggressive, but please do not try to teach me how to tune. At the time of the incident, the car was at the shop waiting for an install of their new 180mm pulley. Not only would I not have time to address any of the concerns that you have posted, but as a shop car sitting for weeks at a time, It was their responsibility to check the running condition of the engine. I did not have the ability to see the injector, or the ringland issue (which did not exist on my motor, and is a complete lie on the failure of it). Allow me to say this. I understand that you are knowledgeable about tuning, but do not underestimate people you do not know on their tuning abilities. For example, your statement on checking spark advance across the curve in the high RPM's probably refers to the spark advance tables, or are you referring to the advance timing tables? This cannot be seen directly through a dataloger, other than timing. Or, you could use an emulator to track the condition of the spark advance tables while under load, which would be a good idea for some tuners who do not use one. If I had the time, or necessity to constitute a tail pipe sniffer while picking up my car from a shop after being built, there are serious issues going on. Remember, they are saying the file was stock, not myself. Adding a pulley to a car does not constitute me to have to check timing advances at all. There should be no reason that a good tune should ever run enough timing to blow a motor, but what I have seen pulling A LOT of fuel, and adding timing = not happy times. Obviously I did not try to cheap out and not purchase a tune! I am completely aware of the fact that a tune is very important when adding performance hardware to a motor. When adding a pulley, fuel is most important to address, then mild timing/spark advance changes, then torque limiter, and load limiters. I think you have maybe been dragged in to a story you don't fully understand, because there is too much to explain. I could go on for pages and pages about my experiences and tribulations, but in the end it would be a fruitless attempt. I have not responded to a lot of the responses in the thread to avoid back and forth bickering, but I felt it was necessary to respond when I feel like I am being treated as someone who is uneducated in the performance word. I might just be on edge from the whole process, so know it is nothing personal against you, simply trying to respond to your comments. I would love to have real educated conversations about tuning with those who have the ability and knowledge.

Thanks
Aleks

Originally Posted by c32AMG-DTM

You'd think that... and you'd be right. The s/c bypass valve on M113K motors bleeds excess boost when they're running a stock tune - which is exactly why you noticed the performance you did with the larger CP paired with the stock tune. Documented with every 55K that throws on a big ol' crank pulley but retains the stock tune.

Consequently, I'm not sure how Aleks' motor would've failed in the manner described had it been running a stock tune. One would presume it at least had to have a box tune eliminating the factory bypass valve operation... right?

Originally Posted by c32AMG-DTM

Apologies for quoting myself, but can someone enlighten me on this issue? Perhaps I don't understand the intricacies of hw/sw integration for the M113K cars very well, but how would a stock-tuned, crank-pullied E55 have a lean condition leading to detonation? Wouldn't the bypass valve bleed off the excess boost caused by the crank pulley, over a certain threshold? So, you'd see gains in very-low-end hp and tq, but basically stock-like performance in the mid-upper RPM ranges, wouldn't you?

Maybe I'm missing something.