Pulley Carnage
What did LET say 
06-08-2010, 04:26 PM
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I didn't even contact them about the last broken pulley, i've had to do 5 pulley installs at $180 each time, plus broken parts etc., I have no faith that they can deliver a good product. I'm better off purchasing from another vendor than to keep ramming my head into the same wall hoping for a different outcome.
06-08-2010, 07:43 PM
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We haven't made it official yet as we're just finishing final testing, but we have unofficially released a new Power Pulley (evo1+ Power Package) for the 55 AMG Kompressor. Our original was roughly 168mm from top of the belt grooves (not belt guide). Our new pulley is 178mm from belt grooves (180mm if you measure from guide to guide, but belt grooves are correct measurement). We feel this is max for all around safety and reliability. Additional size gets you another 2 psi of boost or up to an additional ~20-25hp. Look for an official release in the coming few days. As with our original it uses active dampening technology plus a removeable hub for easier installation. We feel we have the most proven, highest quality and most reliable pulley on the market.
06-09-2010, 12:10 AM
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Problem is that the OEM pulleys fail too - it is a common dealer replacement item. =( Adding more weight to a known factory failure point was not something that sat well with us here at evosport!
We haven't made it official yet as we're just finishing final testing, but we have unofficially released a new Power Pulley (evo1+ Power Package) for the 55 AMG Kompressor. Our original was roughly 168mm from top of the belt grooves (not belt guide). Our new pulley is 178mm from belt grooves (180mm if you measure from guide to guide, but belt grooves are correct measurement). We feel this is max for all around safety and reliability. Additional size gets you another 2 psi of boost or up to an additional ~20-25hp. Look for an official release in the coming few days. As with our original it uses active dampening technology plus a removeable hub for easier installation. We feel we have the most proven, highest quality and most reliable pulley on the market.
We haven't made it official yet as we're just finishing final testing, but we have unofficially released a new Power Pulley (evo1+ Power Package) for the 55 AMG Kompressor. Our original was roughly 168mm from top of the belt grooves (not belt guide). Our new pulley is 178mm from belt grooves (180mm if you measure from guide to guide, but belt grooves are correct measurement). We feel this is max for all around safety and reliability. Additional size gets you another 2 psi of boost or up to an additional ~20-25hp. Look for an official release in the coming few days. As with our original it uses active dampening technology plus a removeable hub for easier installation. We feel we have the most proven, highest quality and most reliable pulley on the market.
08-02-2010, 04:38 PM
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Broken parts suck and no one wants to be left on the side of the road ,but to clear things up, ASP manufactures a modified MB dampner thus your car has all the harmonic damping needed. ASP DID NOT design, engineer or test the LET( Eurocharged ) parts. ASP is only a manufacturer and makes what the customer orders. The ASp pn is 331390 at 180mm
08-02-2010, 05:11 PM
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Broken parts suck and no one wants to be left on the side of the road ,but to clear things up, ASP manufactures a modified MB dampner thus your car has all the harmonic damping needed. ASP DID NOT design, engineer or test the LET( Eurocharged ) parts. ASP is only a manufacturer and makes what the customer orders. The ASp pn is 331390 at 180mm
I bought the ASP 180mm pulley and it's under my desk now. This is from ASP, manufactured by them and I bought it directly from them. As soon as I get it on, I will share my feedback with you all.
Great thread, very valuable feedback.
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08-02-2010, 05:17 PM
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Broken parts suck and no one wants to be left on the side of the road ,but to clear things up, ASP manufactures a modified MB dampner thus your car has all the harmonic damping needed. ASP DID NOT design, engineer or test the LET( Eurocharged ) parts. ASP is only a manufacturer and makes what the customer orders. The ASp pn is 331390 at 180mm
08-02-2010, 05:35 PM
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Broken parts suck and no one wants to be left on the side of the road ,but to clear things up, ASP manufactures a modified MB dampner thus your car has all the harmonic damping needed. ASP DID NOT design, engineer or test the LET( Eurocharged ) parts. ASP is only a manufacturer and makes what the customer orders. The ASp pn is 331390 at 180mm
Like the energizer bunny! Great power and great price, from a company that has been making pulley`s for over 20 years.
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08-02-2010, 06:11 PM
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None fast enough!
Again, everyone see Simon's post above. Any pulley using the stock damper will fail as the stock damper fails far more often than acceptable.
Don't want people to miss this point!
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Don't want people to miss this point!
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08-02-2010, 06:59 PM
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I've had two pulleys on y car. First was an older Eurocharged desgin pulley with no issue except the install! If the bolt backs out and destroys the wodruff key the falt is the install. This cost the Indy that did the orginal install a f*%K **** load of money for a new engine for my car. Jerry replaced the pulley at no charge withe the new ASP manufactured 172mm pulley. I have 0 issues and Jerry's tune make the cars way too much fun to drive! My wife even loves it!
08-02-2010, 07:02 PM
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Eurocharged Performance has teamed up with ASP to co-design, co-engineer, and produce what we think is one of the best pulleys on the market.
It’s been 6 long months, and many hours of engineering work, but the end results speak for themselves.
The newest generation pulley has some design changes that will allow for an easier install, and more performance over the competition due to the lightweight material used. The 172mm pulley is 2.55 lbs lighter than the stock Mercedes pulley!
So how did this come about?
Well, last summer, Eurocharged was struggling with our current supplier to keep up with production. The pullies were leaving the shelves, and our lead time was growing exponentially. Something had to change. So, we thought who better then to talk to about pulley manufacturing then Auto Specialty Performance? A phone call was all it took, and a new relationship was formed. After countless drawing revisions, quality testing, and field testing, we feel we have really created the perfect product. ASP now fabricates and assembles all of our pullies directly at their headquarters in Stafford TX!
08-02-2010, 08:32 PM
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2006 E55 AMG --old cars -- E39 M5, 2.7tt Audi S4, E36 M3 **Ducati 996, 748
i got a 2nd hand Evo-sport 168mm --- been on the car for about 10 months -- it has been doing a fine job for me ----
I am not the only one to have this opinion but the extra large pulleys may not be all they are cracked up to be --
- my friend has a 180mm- super sprint LT -tune -HE and pump - no cats but has 20inch wheels --- we were neck and neck and you can see my mods but i had all cats at that time.-- ... but there are probably a dozen variables ---
I am not the only one to have this opinion but the extra large pulleys may not be all they are cracked up to be --
- my friend has a 180mm- super sprint LT -tune -HE and pump - no cats but has 20inch wheels --- we were neck and neck and you can see my mods but i had all cats at that time.-- ... but there are probably a dozen variables ---
08-02-2010, 09:03 PM
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brad @ evosport Again, everyone see Simon's post above. Any pulley using the stock damper will fail as the stock damper fails far more often than acceptable.
Don't want people to miss this point!
Don't want people to miss this point!
This point has not come up on this forum with any regularity.. Maybe the I/C pump but not the dampner..
The pulley`s we see fail are the ones that vendors attempt to have made to replicate the factory balancer.. The ASP welded pulley`s have been great for years now..
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None fast enough!
Yes, Simon brought it up earlier in the thread. Talk to any dealer tech who specializes in this car, the factory damper is a problem. Re-using the stock part that fails is a bad idea IMHO.
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08-02-2010, 09:13 PM
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I have the same exact pulley as exotic metal. Actually he had ours custom designed, so that means of the four made we have a 100% success rate! Nice pic Brooke, looks like my rear antenna. 
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Whatever we're tuning!
Thank you for calling me God but I have never claimed to be THAT GOOD!
During recent conversations with Lee(Friday July 30th and Monday August 2nd to be exact) in which we discussed YOUR failing pulley, he told me that he told you(or whoever was in charge of your company at the time) that the design would fail but YOUR company decided to go ahead anyway. That came directly from Lee who is a straight up and stand up person and I have no reason to doubt him.
Lee will make you anything that you want since he is a machine shop not an engineering firm and sending drawings back and forth isn't what I call engineering.
Why not address the fact that this thread is about 5 of YOUR pulley's failing regardless of your so called R&D instead of picking posts to comment on!
Take a break from what? Aren't you an IT guy Jake and just happened to put money into a sinking ship!
During recent conversations with Lee(Friday July 30th and Monday August 2nd to be exact) in which we discussed YOUR failing pulley, he told me that he told you(or whoever was in charge of your company at the time) that the design would fail but YOUR company decided to go ahead anyway. That came directly from Lee who is a straight up and stand up person and I have no reason to doubt him.
Lee will make you anything that you want since he is a machine shop not an engineering firm and sending drawings back and forth isn't what I call engineering.
Why not address the fact that this thread is about 5 of YOUR pulley's failing regardless of your so called R&D instead of picking posts to comment on!
Take a break from what? Aren't you an IT guy Jake and just happened to put money into a sinking ship!
08-03-2010, 09:05 AM
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Whatever we're tuning!
Lee would build a sprocket for a bicycle if you contracted him for one but to try and use ASP's credibility to promote it, and for a product whose design had already failed by a former vendor, is sad.
You've helped out members with the idler pulley issues with Lee, but when you are replacing a plastic pulley design with aluminum, there is very little development needed except for which bearing to use. And for this we all owe you many
! Thanks Brooke!!Aren't you opening up a shop in TX? Good luck with it!
08-03-2010, 10:11 AM
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No flame fest Brooke. Just facts and experiences stating that a pulley that was supposed to be the latest and greatest has failed many times in its first batch. That speaks volumes.
Lee would build a sprocket for a bicycle if you contracted him for one but to try and use ASP's credibility to promote it, and for a product whose design had already failed by a former vendor, is sad.
You've helped out members with the idler pulley issues with Lee, but when you are replacing a plastic pulley design with aluminum, there is very little development needed except for which bearing to use. And for this we all owe you many! Thanks Brooke!!
Aren't you opening up a shop in TX? Good luck with it!
Lee would build a sprocket for a bicycle if you contracted him for one but to try and use ASP's credibility to promote it, and for a product whose design had already failed by a former vendor, is sad.
You've helped out members with the idler pulley issues with Lee, but when you are replacing a plastic pulley design with aluminum, there is very little development needed except for which bearing to use. And for this we all owe you many
! Thanks Brooke!!Aren't you opening up a shop in TX? Good luck with it!
Was not referring to you as creating a flame fest, just stating that Lee does not come on the boards and get in the position of being a target (smart thing to do).. Correct, Lee is a stand up guy and anyone can call him up and he will tell it like it is..
Also true, that Lee /ASP will make anything you want and makes product for Dinan, Summit racing, Jegs, Mustang shops and much more.. Yes, He also made me a custom 185mm pulley (lightweight alum. version) and idler pulleys to the specs I wanted.. I wanted things light and I wanted them pretty..
You asking me if I am opening a shop, as in car shop I assume? Strange question on an open forum and on a pulley thread.. I guess I am laughing pretty hard right now and should be insulted by the small term of "shop" -"car shop" or tuner shop..lol Hell no! If that even deserves a reply.. You might want to start thinking Electric shop pretty soon, if you want to stay in the "shop" business.. Damn you are funny Bruce..
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08-03-2010, 10:39 AM
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