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Old 07-03-2010, 06:29 PM
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The Dagger GT


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Brand Name - Someone asked us, “How are you going to compete with brand name luxury cars like the Bugatti Veyron, the Ferrari Enzo, etc.?” We said, “Our brand will be displayed in the timing lights. We will be branded by our performance.” How does “world’s fastest” sound to you as a brand? Do you want a ‘prancing horsey’ logo or a stampede of two thousand horses? The Dagger GT is a ‘performance dagger’ in the heart of its restricted and compromised “competitors.” Case closed. The custom-made Dagger GT is strictly for enthusiasts that are not satisfied with 200 to 250 mph cars, and 600 to1200 hp cars that cost over $650,000 to over two million
It's time to smile and have fun again! "Extreme" is back! The 2000 hp, 300 mph Dagger GT's design objectives are to be the best-looking, fastest Supercar in the world. This Supercar is being specially designed, very deliberately and explicitly, to break all world records and to bring back the most popular class of race car: the unlimited class which has been regulated, restricted and compromised into extinction. Join the rebellion as we break every rule there is, and break every world record for production Supercars. We will not quit until we achieve these goals:
-- Top horsepower/torque: 2000 hp/2000 ft lbs (given)
-- Top Speed: 300 mph, plus
-- Quarter mile: 200 mph and < 6.7 seconds
-- 0 to 60 mph: < 1.5 seconds
-- Lap records at: Nurburgring and Virginia International Raceway.
Each Dagger GT will be carefully hand-made by exceptional, enthusiastic craftsmen. Each car will be custom-made to the owner's preferences and desires. You can order: one of three (3) hard-core racing models; a street-legal comfortable-riding sport model, or a soft-riding, luxurious GT-X model that looks and feels like a million-dollar car, but runs like a bat-out-of-hell. We plan to deliver 5 production Daggers in 2011. Each Dagger will be 49-state street-legal if desired by the buyer.

The base MSRP of the Dagger GT-S or "Sport" model is $450,000 plus custom work, if requested. Deliveries are scheduled beginning in the first half of 2011. Production is very limited to maintain exceptional, over-the-top quality and fine craftsmanship. We have 2 more sales to go before we close out our 2011 production allotment of five (5) units. After the first five units are under contract, we will begin negotiating purchase orders for 10 units to be delivered in 2012.

The Dagger GT is based on an exceptional mid-engine concept car, the Corvette Cheetah, created by the brilliant industrial designer, Ivan Luccion. Our consulting lead designer is Phil Frank, designer of the world record-setting Saleen S7 Supercar which recently won the 24 hours of LeMans. Each Dagger GT is custom-made from 100% proven, guaranteed, off-the-shelf racing components and hand-built to the highest standards by experienced, exceptional supercar craftsmen. The car features an over-the-top big block, 2000 hp aluminum, twin turbo 572 multifuel racing engine, routinely built by Nelson Racing Engines. The engine is also "streetable." A custom TranStar/Mendeola 6-speed transaxle geared to 308 mph is also featured. The transaxle is designed to withstand the 2000 foot-pounds of torque delivered by the engine. The Dagger GT also features a high-strength 4130 Chromoly Steel chassis. A space-age carbon fiber body will be fabricated by the aerospace industry.
http://www.daggergt.com/


Programmable Horsepower - Tom Nelson’s 2000 HP engine is amazing. It will automatically add boost and increase racing fuel/methanol mix depending on the fuel and boost map you specify and we input into the engine management computer. It produces 1300 HP on pump gas and 2000 HP on race fuel which are provided via two fuel tanks and dual fuel injectors for each cylinder. If driven normally, with a light foot, fuel consumption is not unreasonable for a big block engine. At 300 mph please expect to empty the gas tanks in under 6 minutes…which will be a few minutes after the street tires melt! (Land-speed tires are one of our many options offered that you get to choose from as part of your purchase... so you can reach “empty” at 300 mph without the tires melting)

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WOW, 3,000 pounds and 2,000 ponies on race fuel. The power to weight ratio of an FN rocket ship.
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-- Top Speed: 300 mph, plus
-- Quarter mile: 200 mph and < 6.7 seconds
-- 0 to 60 mph: < 1.5 seconds

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So is it reality or still a concept? If it is reality then it really is a Dagger.
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Originally Posted by acb
-- Top Speed: 300 mph, plus
-- Quarter mile: 200 mph and < 6.7 seconds
-- 0 to 60 mph: < 1.5 seconds



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I just watched a car run a 7.02 at 210mph in the quarter yesterday. I don't care what the claims are, this car will NEVER do it. NEVER!!!
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If it is AWD & has proper aerodynamics 2000HP 2000TQ would do it... Bugatti Veyron pulls 1/4 @ 10.00 flat 140mph w/stock whl/tires (mag tests) only has 1001 HP... But I agree that there is A LOT more to running these purposed ET/#'s than just 2000HP in 3k lb sled...

I do like to see people reaching for the impossible (in this case look's like Deliveries are scheduled beginning in the first half of 2011. Production is very limited to maintain exceptional, over-the-top quality and fine craftsmanship. We have 2 more sales to go before we close out our 2011 production allotment of five (5) units. After the first five units are under contract, we will begin negotiating purchase orders for 10 units to be delivered in 2012.)

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Old 07-04-2010, 03:44 AM
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Many small time not know companies have tried to go for the title, but lets face it, few get it and even fewer are successful with the brand/product.

I mean the Bugati is a real car with real comfort and is not expected to break down on u. I.E it is built for the power and for the LUX it gives.

Can not say that for many of these record seeking cars, who break a record on the track and also the car afterwords...or do 1 or 2 runs and can't do the 3rd, as the car has something wrong with it....
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Originally Posted by Thericker
If it is AWD & has proper aerodynamics 2000HP 2000TQ would do it... Bugatti Veyron pulls 1/4 @ 10.00 flat 140mph w/stock whl/tires (mag tests) only has 1001 HP... But I agree that there is A LOT more to running these purposed ET/#'s than just 2000HP in 3k lb sled...

Agreed. There is a lot more to it, and this car doesn't have it. I agree that the power may be there...although I doubt that too....but getting purpose built cars into the 6's takes considerable effort and then they can only go straight.

Case in point. Tim Lynch's twin turbo tube chassis 10.5 outlaw class Mustang. It's got 3000hp, weighs 3050 pounds, and runs a 6.5 second quarter. It was made to do one thing well...go straight and fast. Note the distinct design differences necessary just to accomplish this task.




If you've never seen an outlaw class car run a high 6 second run, you'll never appreciate the ridiculous and intelligence insulting claim this manufacturer is making about their car. I agree though that I like seeing manufacturers pushing the envelope on insane performance specs. I just don't like them preying on people's ignorance and false advertising to make a sale.
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On a side note, NRE engines are amazing. Hit up their site and watch some of his videos. I love the enthusiasm and charisma Tom Nelson has. Very inspiring and truly amazing work.
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2000hp & 2000lbs , I don't know.It's not like this car has F1 aerodynamics ( at least to me ), I'm thinking this thing over 250mph might be like skipping a stone across water......possible a$$ over end with a mess to clean up.Also no mention of the braking ( parachute , a safe on a chain) ?
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These chaps are dreaming....

All of a sudden some guy thinks he can rewrite the record books of the veyron / mclaren / ssc , but just adding power and some vague attention to aerodynamics? 1.7 to 60mph right. On which rubber?

Sub 7 second qtr .. ?





Gotto love the engines though, but his claims are well pure dreams.
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Originally Posted by stevebez
These chaps are dreaming....

All of a sudden some guy thinks he can rewrite the record books of the veyron / mclaren / ssc , but just adding power and some vague attention to aerodynamics? 1.7 to 60mph right. On which rubber?

Sub 7 second qtr .. ?





Gotto love the engines though, but his claims are well pure dreams.
He certainly chose the right engine builder for the job, but I agree that he is blissfully ignorant of traction with that kind of power not to mention aerodynamics on the big end. That kind of qtr mile time and 0-60 in something designed to be street driven.......
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Not happeneing. Although NRE make ssome BADASS engines, it takes more than just power to run those 1/4 mile times
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Wow, the design of the car actually looks great and the specs that they are aiming for are extremely impressive , but I do agree that it maybe a bit too difficult to actually create this car

One can still hope though....
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Another supposed exotic car from an obscure manufacturer with ridiculous claims..will be destined for obsolescence.
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Ummm the first time I read this press release it was April 1st of this year...maybe that was a coincidence?

The "mathematically computed" quarter mile time is one of many interesting claims.

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