Question about AMG 6.2V8
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Question about AMG 6.2V8
Hi Guys,
Just wanted to ask everyone about something my MB Tech told me today.
We were talking about my car which is an E55 and how I handed a 300c SRT8 its *** from a stop the other day and he starts telling me that the motor in SRT8 and the motor in the 6.3 amg are almost the same. They share like 70%of the same parts and they were designed togther when Daimler owned chrysler and benz. I have never heard any of this before but this guy was very convincing. Both motors are 6.2 liters and he said the extra hp the benz has over the chrysler is all in the head and electronics which are different but the rest of the motor is the same.
Has anyone on here ever heard about this?
I find it hard to believe but the guy made sense. He said even the block dimension and internals are idetical.
I remember hearing that the 300c chassis is actually an Eclass chassis and the SRT8s tranny is an amg tranny but i never heard anything about the motor. It kinda makes sense though especially since the new Grandcherokee is an ML Chassis.
On a side note I have a jeep with the 4.7l V8 that I use for work and dont ask how but I blew the engine. Anyway I had to buy a factory rebuild form the dealer which cost me $4995.00 plus 2k install. The warranty had just expired. I was not happy But the truck was still worth $25k and i coulnt just scrap it so I bit the bullet. Anyway when I got the engine the service guy told me it was a mercedes motor. I had no idea about that either.
Just wanted to ask everyone about something my MB Tech told me today.
We were talking about my car which is an E55 and how I handed a 300c SRT8 its *** from a stop the other day and he starts telling me that the motor in SRT8 and the motor in the 6.3 amg are almost the same. They share like 70%of the same parts and they were designed togther when Daimler owned chrysler and benz. I have never heard any of this before but this guy was very convincing. Both motors are 6.2 liters and he said the extra hp the benz has over the chrysler is all in the head and electronics which are different but the rest of the motor is the same.
Has anyone on here ever heard about this?
I find it hard to believe but the guy made sense. He said even the block dimension and internals are idetical.
I remember hearing that the 300c chassis is actually an Eclass chassis and the SRT8s tranny is an amg tranny but i never heard anything about the motor. It kinda makes sense though especially since the new Grandcherokee is an ML Chassis.
On a side note I have a jeep with the 4.7l V8 that I use for work and dont ask how but I blew the engine. Anyway I had to buy a factory rebuild form the dealer which cost me $4995.00 plus 2k install. The warranty had just expired. I was not happy But the truck was still worth $25k and i coulnt just scrap it so I bit the bullet. Anyway when I got the engine the service guy told me it was a mercedes motor. I had no idea about that either.
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Tell your tech he is full of salsa.
SRT8 Hemi is 6.1L (not 6.2L)
Pushrod motor
2 valves per cylinder
Steel block
Bore: 99.5mm
Stroke: 90.9mm
10.3 compression ratio
Oil Capacity: 7qts
425hp/420 torque
Made in Mexico
E63 6.2L
DOHC
4 valves per cylinder
aluminum block
Variable Valve Timing
Bore: 102.2mm
Stroke: 94.6mm
11.3 compression ratio
Oil Capacity: 9.3qts
518hp / 465 torque
Made in Affalterbach
The two engines DO NOT share 70% of parts...utter manure.
Both engines are about as similar to each other as:
and
SRT8 Hemi is 6.1L (not 6.2L)
Pushrod motor
2 valves per cylinder
Steel block
Bore: 99.5mm
Stroke: 90.9mm
10.3 compression ratio
Oil Capacity: 7qts
425hp/420 torque
Made in Mexico
E63 6.2L
DOHC
4 valves per cylinder
aluminum block
Variable Valve Timing
Bore: 102.2mm
Stroke: 94.6mm
11.3 compression ratio
Oil Capacity: 9.3qts
518hp / 465 torque
Made in Affalterbach
The two engines DO NOT share 70% of parts...utter manure.
Both engines are about as similar to each other as:
and
Last edited by slownrusty; Jul 15, 2010 at 10:51 PM.
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Yup, the only Dodge engine that's the same as an AMG engine is the engine in the Crossfire SRT6, it's the same as the SLK32's engine. And I'm not even 100% sure about that one.
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Oh, and to the OP, from what I remember the Charger and the 300 are built on the Mercedes W210 E class chassis, not the W211.
And on both of them, they ruined the chassis, somehow. My friend used to have a W210 E430, and I loved that car, I hated my Charger rental that I had for the past 2 weeks.
And on both of them, they ruined the chassis, somehow. My friend used to have a W210 E430, and I loved that car, I hated my Charger rental that I had for the past 2 weeks.
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Oh, and to the OP, from what I remember the Charger and the 300 are built on the Mercedes W210 E class chassis, not the W211.
And on both of them, they ruined the chassis, somehow. My friend used to have a W210 E430, and I loved that car, I hated my Charger rental that I had for the past 2 weeks.
And on both of them, they ruined the chassis, somehow. My friend used to have a W210 E430, and I loved that car, I hated my Charger rental that I had for the past 2 weeks.
You are correct about it being the 210 chassis.
The Crossfire is on the R170 SLK chassis too.
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They don't use the same suspension...big difference in ride.
Like I said, they messed up the chassis. Lol
You are correct about it being the 210 chassis.
The Crossfire is on the R170 SLK chassis too.
Yup, other than the plastic interior, they're basically the same car. lol
Like I said, they messed up the chassis. Lol
You are correct about it being the 210 chassis.
The Crossfire is on the R170 SLK chassis too.
Yup, other than the plastic interior, they're basically the same car. lol
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Im glad someone clarified that for me. I was gonna say that sould like bull. I guess I feel real good about the fact that the tech that told me that crap was the same tech working on my e55. LOL.I hate dealers.
Tell your tech he is full of salsa.
SRT8 Hemi is 6.1L (not 6.2L)
Pushrod motor
2 valves per cylinder
Steel block
Bore: 99.5mm
Stroke: 90.9mm
10.3 compression ratio
Oil Capacity: 7qts
425hp/420 torque
Made in Mexico
E63 6.2L
DOHC
4 valves per cylinder
aluminum block
Variable Valve Timing
Bore: 102.2mm
Stroke: 94.6mm
11.3 compression ratio
Oil Capacity: 9.3qts
518hp / 465 torque
Made in Affalterbach
The two engines DO NOT share 70% of parts...utter manure.
Both engines are about as similar to each other as:
and
SRT8 Hemi is 6.1L (not 6.2L)
Pushrod motor
2 valves per cylinder
Steel block
Bore: 99.5mm
Stroke: 90.9mm
10.3 compression ratio
Oil Capacity: 7qts
425hp/420 torque
Made in Mexico
E63 6.2L
DOHC
4 valves per cylinder
aluminum block
Variable Valve Timing
Bore: 102.2mm
Stroke: 94.6mm
11.3 compression ratio
Oil Capacity: 9.3qts
518hp / 465 torque
Made in Affalterbach
The two engines DO NOT share 70% of parts...utter manure.
Both engines are about as similar to each other as:
and
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Sorry I meant the w210 e class chassis. I I knew that one was right. Im still shocked that my jeep had a benz 4.7 v8 though and im more shocked the damn thing blew itself apart at 50k miles. You gotta love american cars and there 36K miles warranty
Oh, and to the OP, from what I remember the Charger and the 300 are built on the Mercedes W210 E class chassis, not the W211.
And on both of them, they ruined the chassis, somehow. My friend used to have a W210 E430, and I loved that car, I hated my Charger rental that I had for the past 2 weeks.
And on both of them, they ruined the chassis, somehow. My friend used to have a W210 E430, and I loved that car, I hated my Charger rental that I had for the past 2 weeks.
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I had the same motor in my previous Jeep as well.
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And if that's an AMG tranny, it's a ten year old design, but I doubt it since they, Dodge, touts their retarded "Autostick" 5-speed...
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Tell your tech he is full of salsa.
SRT8 Hemi is 6.1L (not 6.2L)
Pushrod motor
2 valves per cylinder
Steel block
Bore: 99.5mm
Stroke: 90.9mm
10.3 compression ratio
Oil Capacity: 7qts
425hp/420 torque
Made in Mexico
E63 6.2L
DOHC
4 valves per cylinder
aluminum block
Variable Valve Timing
Bore: 102.2mm
Stroke: 94.6mm
11.3 compression ratio
Oil Capacity: 9.3qts
518hp / 465 torque
Made in Affalterbach
The two engines DO NOT share 70% of parts...utter manure.
Both engines are about as similar to each other as:
and
SRT8 Hemi is 6.1L (not 6.2L)
Pushrod motor
2 valves per cylinder
Steel block
Bore: 99.5mm
Stroke: 90.9mm
10.3 compression ratio
Oil Capacity: 7qts
425hp/420 torque
Made in Mexico
E63 6.2L
DOHC
4 valves per cylinder
aluminum block
Variable Valve Timing
Bore: 102.2mm
Stroke: 94.6mm
11.3 compression ratio
Oil Capacity: 9.3qts
518hp / 465 torque
Made in Affalterbach
The two engines DO NOT share 70% of parts...utter manure.
Both engines are about as similar to each other as:
and
the tech said the head was different and with a different crank you can get the same bore and stroke.
Last edited by skratch77; Jul 16, 2010 at 09:22 AM.
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Heres a funny story,I went to the movies and this kid in a parking lot said how does it feel to have a car built by america.
I was like wtf are you talking about.He thought that the e55 was made by chrysler and used usa tech and they designed and built the engine LOL
I told him the only thing that happened is the other way around.The pos american cars got german engineering in them.
I was like wtf are you talking about.He thought that the e55 was made by chrysler and used usa tech and they designed and built the engine LOL
I told him the only thing that happened is the other way around.The pos american cars got german engineering in them.
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I think I remember reading that the charger and the 300 chassis' were based on the w210 e class but the suspension components were made of stamped steel instead of aluminum- someone correct me if I am wrong. If true, that would change the whole handling feel and ride of the car.
