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Old Aug 19, 2010 | 02:12 PM
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Test Results - S63 5.5 V8 Biturbo

Autozeitung (German car mag) tested the new S63 with the 5.5L TT V8 with the performance package (571hp/664lbs-ft tq). It ran 0-100km/h: 4.5s and 0-200km/h: 13.7s. The car weighed in at a quite porky 2,308kg (5,078lbs). I think the important thing to look at is the 100-200km/h split: 9.2s.

For context the Panamera Turbo was tested by the same magazine at 0-100km/h: 3.9s and 0-200km/h: 13.5s with a 100-200km/h split of 9.6s.

If they can keep the weight down when they drop this engine in the E-class...look out...

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Old Aug 19, 2010 | 02:22 PM
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Too bad they are calling it a 63, I think this is the first departure from numerical engine designation in MB/AMG history.

I'll re-badge mine
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Old Aug 19, 2010 | 02:28 PM
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Originally Posted by Yacht Master
Too bad they are calling it a 63, I think this is the first departure from numerical engine designation in MB/AMG history.

I'll re-badge mine
It's close. However, the current 300 series is actually a 2.8L and the 63 series is really a 6.2L. I just had training on this and the main reason they did not re-name the cars to correspond is b/c most people think the numbers have to do with size of the car, not the motor. MB did not want any more confusion
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Old Aug 19, 2010 | 04:39 PM
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...the main reason they did not re-name the cars to correspond is b/c most people think the numbers have to do with size of the car...
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Old Aug 19, 2010 | 04:51 PM
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Originally Posted by TMC M5
Autozeitung (German car mag) tested the new S63 with the 5.5L TT V8 with the performance package (571hp/664lbs-ft tq). It ran 0-100km/h: 4.5s and 0-200km/h: 13.7s. The car weighed in at a quite porky 2,308kg (5,078lbs). I think the important thing to look at is the 100-200km/h split: 9.2s.

For context the Panamera Turbo was tested by the same magazine at 0-100km/h: 3.9s and 0-200km/h: 13.5s with a 100-200km/h split of 9.6s.

If they can keep the weight down when they drop this engine in the E-class...look out...

Tom
It's a shame they don't make the w212 coupe with that engine...I like the coupe look and the weight should be at least 500lbs less than the w221 platform.
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Old Aug 19, 2010 | 04:52 PM
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Originally Posted by Blk04cobra1
It's close. However, the current 300 series is actually a 2.8L and the 63 series is really a 6.2L. I just had training on this and the main reason they did not re-name the cars to correspond is b/c most people think the numbers have to do with size of the car, not the motor. MB did not want any more confusion
and the 55 is a 5.4 lol
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Old Aug 19, 2010 | 07:07 PM
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and the 55 is a 5.4 lol
I would give them a break on that, as the engine is 5,461cc's, which rounds up to the 5.5L.

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Old Aug 19, 2010 | 07:35 PM
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Originally Posted by Yacht Master
Too bad they are calling it a 63, I think this is the first departure from numerical engine designation in MB/AMG history.

I'll re-badge mine
I think it actually started a little bit earlier than that.... the C230 Kompressors (the ones pre-2006) were 1.8L and post-2006 became 2.5L. I think also the C240 became a 2.6L, etc.... it started with the lower-end models and slowly moved their way up.
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Originally Posted by TMC M5
Autozeitung (German car mag) tested the new S63 with the 5.5L TT V8 with the performance package (571hp/664lbs-ft tq). It ran 0-100km/h: 4.5s and 0-200km/h: 13.7s. The car weighed in at a quite porky 2,308kg (5,078lbs). I think the important thing to look at is the 100-200km/h split: 9.2s.

For context the Panamera Turbo was tested by the same magazine at 0-100km/h: 3.9s and 0-200km/h: 13.5s with a 100-200km/h split of 9.6s.

If they can keep the weight down when they drop this engine in the E-class...look out...

Tom
i would think that a 4200lb E class or CLS would be pulling a Panamera just slightly with that engine package.. or base AMG engine would be a draw.
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Not so concerned with the starting line as much as the finishing line. These new motors are so ripe with potential!! Just cant imagine these things with turbs cranked up, headers, cooling mods and intake.

Gonna be insane! Ill be proud to relinquish Our titles as fastest V8s in the AMG family.

Heres hoping for quick cracking of the software!
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Old Aug 19, 2010 | 08:40 PM
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Originally Posted by MB_Forever
I think it actually started a little bit earlier than that.... the C230 Kompressors (the ones pre-2006) were 1.8L and post-2006 became 2.5L. I think also the C240 became a 2.6L, etc.... it started with the lower-end models and slowly moved their way up.
Ya, now that I think about it there were a few others the 190E had a 2.3
and the SE450 had a 6.9
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Old Aug 19, 2010 | 08:44 PM
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Originally Posted by Jakpro1
Not so concerned with the starting line as much as the finishing line. These new motors are so ripe with potential!! Just cant imagine these things with turbs cranked up, headers, cooling mods and intake.

Gonna be insane! Ill be proud to relinquish Our titles as fastest V8s in the AMG family.

Heres hoping for quick cracking of the software!
Talked to Renntech (ordered the car ,October 15th prod.),they are salivating at the prospect of tuning that thing.
They expect an easy mid 600hp (with just ECU)and mid 700 lbs torque.
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Old Aug 19, 2010 | 09:15 PM
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Are you guys really excited about a 5,000+lbs car with 571hp? Horsepower is great but the S63 is the equivalent of a fat chick with really big *****........just because you have one outstanding attribute does not mean that the final product is desirable.

God have mercy on all of you.
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Old Aug 19, 2010 | 09:47 PM
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Originally Posted by Rock
Are you guys really excited about a 5,000+lbs car with 571hp? Horsepower is great but the S63 is the equivalent of a fat chick with really big *****........just because you have one outstanding attribute does not mean that the final product is desirable.

God have mercy on all of you.
It's not meant to be a nimble and light track special ,it's not meant to compete with 911 GT3s or GT-Rs.
It's supposed to be an ultra luxury daily driver with all the power you may need (or not need).
There is just something very satisfying when driving a tank like that ,when you step on it ,it takes off like there is no tomorrow.....
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Old Aug 19, 2010 | 10:20 PM
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Are you guys really excited about a 5,000+lbs car with 571hp? Horsepower is great but the S63 is the equivalent of a fat chick with really big *****........just because you have one outstanding attribute does not mean that the final product is desirable.

God have mercy on all of you.
It would be nice to have it in a lighter platform. Unfortunately MB historically uses tiny turbos (for the engine they are on) so I dont see this case being any different. Hopefully there is room for bigger turbos. Either way it will be a monster. Oh and fat chics can always lose weight and be that dime you are lookin for. I'm hoping they put this motor in one of the smaller platforms

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Old Aug 19, 2010 | 10:32 PM
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My car is 4020lbs, and I'd call it a boat.

Now these are 5000+? They need to add more hp while slimming it down.
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Are you guys really excited about a 5,000+lbs car with 571hp? Horsepower is great but the S63 is the equivalent of a fat chick with really big *****........just because you have one outstanding attribute does not mean that the final product is desirable.

God have mercy on all of you.
I'm with Rock on this. Alot of mildly modded 55s are hitting 200 km/h (124mph) in 12 seconds or less. The new S63 is hitting it in 13.7 seconds. I'd be curious to see how this number stacks up with previous year S600 and S65's.
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Originally Posted by cahiil55k
Alot of mildly modded 55s are hitting 200 km/h (124mph) in 12 seconds or less
and one stock one if they drop this in the E class it would truly be impressive if it can hit 124mph in 11.7 or under. IMHO
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Originally Posted by cahiil55k
I'm with Rock on this. Alot of mildly modded 55s are hitting 200 km/h (124mph) in 12 seconds or less. The new S63 is hitting it in 13.7 seconds. I'd be curious to see how this number stacks up with previous year S600 and S65's.
The current S63 hits 0-200km/h in 17.3sec so the new one is a vast improvement.
With all it's bulk it still manages to outperform a Panamera Turbo at midrange speeds,no mean feat in itself....
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Whoa the current S63s are that slow? Well, I'm sure no one really buys them to run them down the 1/4th but 17.3 seconds definitely makes 13.7 sound fast.
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I guess when the new S63 comes out the current one will have a big drop price if the huge different performance.
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The current S63 hits 0-200km/h in 17.3sec so the new one is a vast improvement.
With all it's bulk it still manages to outperform a Panamera Turbo at midrange speeds,no mean feat in itself....

that 17 second test result is flawed the S63 tested the exact same 0-60 and clocked 13.0@110 through the 1/4 mile no possible way it takes 4 seconds to go from 110-125 not in a 63. The S63 likely is very similar to its 531 hp counterpart and ofcourse a tad slower to the 570 version.

I would be willing to bet a billiondollars the S63 could hit 125mph under 17 seconds, lol
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I think the important thing to look at is the 100-200km/h split: 9.2s.
I would expect a stock TT S63 to have a 100-200km/h time in mid 8sec. My stcok W211 E63 ran a 9.0S in 7 degree C weather.
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Originally Posted by Rock
Are you guys really excited about a 5,000+lbs car with 571hp? Horsepower is great but the S63 is the equivalent of a fat chick with really big *****........just because you have one outstanding attribute does not mean that the final product is desirable.

God have mercy on all of you.
Rock- you are so shallow...take away the fat on a fat chick and the big ******* go too.
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