SPEED Channel: CTS-V vs E63 TONIGHT!!!
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Did you see how PT jump the start for the 0-100-0 drag race. I have to say this, although I'm not a fan of Cadillac. The New CTS-V is nice inside and out, and with a monster powerplant. The 556 hp just killed the the E63, and it was an unfair advantage. The car had 40 more hp, then the E63. Besides being Supercharged versus NA. I wished that the E63 had a AMG Performance Package on it, for a power increase. Sometimes, it's not up to the skill of the driver, put up to the hp and torque of the car.
And Cadillac definitely has that going on in the New CTS-V. But I was rooting for the E63 the whole time, even though it was dis-advanteged. They should have put the Corvette ZR-1 up against the SLS AMG, now that would have been a test.
And Cadillac definitely has that going on in the New CTS-V. But I was rooting for the E63 the whole time, even though it was dis-advanteged. They should have put the Corvette ZR-1 up against the SLS AMG, now that would have been a test.
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Did you see how PT jump the start for the 0-100-0 drag race. I have to say this, although I'm not a fan of Cadillac. The New CTS-V is nice inside and out, and with a monster powerplant. The 556 hp just killed the the E63, and it was an unfair advantage. The car had 40 more hp, then the E63. Besides being Supercharged versus NA. I wished that the E63 had a AMG Performance Package on it, for a power increase. Sometimes, it's not up to the skill of the driver, put up to the hp and torque of the car.
And Cadillac definitely has that going on in the New CTS-V. But I was rooting for the E63 the whole time, even though it was dis-advanteged. They should have put the Corvette ZR-1 up against the SLS AMG, now that would have been a test.
And Cadillac definitely has that going on in the New CTS-V. But I was rooting for the E63 the whole time, even though it was dis-advanteged. They should have put the Corvette ZR-1 up against the SLS AMG, now that would have been a test.
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The CTS-V would take the race to breaking down first as well! This reminds me of the motortrend comparison between the new Mustang 5.0 and M3 where everything was within .1 of a second. What they don't compare is quality overall and I'm not too sure I'd take a punstang over the M3 ![nix](https://mbworld.org/forums/images/smilies/nixweiss.gif)
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Guys, I hate to break this to you...but the jump that PT got has nothing to do with how the run is timed with the vbox GPS timing equipment. The timing doesn't get started until the car takes off. So Tanner's time didn't start until his car started moving. They could have left 15 minutes apart and the times would have been the same. Kind of how at the track, the ET doesn't take into account the reaction time. It is a TV show....the more made up controversy and back and forth banter are entertaining...but not accurate.
Jackpro...not sure posting the absolute worst ET by a new CTS-V's pitted against an E55 with drag radials (did you notice the rear wheels in the video) is representative of anything.![nix](https://mbworld.org/forums/images/smilies/nixweiss.gif)
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Jackpro...not sure posting the absolute worst ET by a new CTS-V's pitted against an E55 with drag radials (did you notice the rear wheels in the video) is representative of anything.
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Guys, I hate to break this to you...but the jump that PT got has nothing to do with how the run is timed with the vbox GPS timing equipment. The timing doesn't get started until the car takes off. So Tanner's time didn't start until his car started moving. They could have left 15 minutes apart and the times would have been the same. Kind of how at the track, the ET doesn't take into account the reaction time. It is a TV show....the more made up controversy and back and forth banter are entertaining...but not accurate.
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I was hoping the E63 would do a little better than it did, but ah well.... there is always the new TT version coming out next year
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Based on that show, it's either driver dependency or Mercedes AMG will need to go back to the drawing board. By far, the CTS-V outperformed the AMG! If I had to choose between those two cars (brand new), I would definitely pick the CTS-V because it's a way better value.
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I think the driver has an influence on who wins especially when we are talking tenths of a second. I seen a few episodes yesterday for the first time and Foust got beat on almost all tests. I do concede though you get a lot of power for money from the Cadillac, but who wants to drive a Cadi???
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I think the driver has an influence on who wins especially when we are talking tenths of a second. I seen a few episodes yesterday for the first time and Foust got beat on almost all tests. I do concede though you get a lot of power for money from the Cadillac, but who wants to drive a Cadi???
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Edmunds: 12.4 at 114.7
Insideline: 12.4 at 115
Car and Driver: 12.6 at 116
Motorweek: 12.7 at 115
Motor Trend: 12.3 at 117
This is just to show that not everyone will be running 12 flat and trapping 119's in their CTS-V, nor would we expect everyone here with a 55 to run high 11's just because a few stock 55s have done so.
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I've seen worse times from a CTS-V in person due to traction issues but the trap speed always stays consistent around 115, which says alot about power. I don't want to start magazine racing but here are some similar traps:
Edmunds: 12.4 at 114.7
Insideline: 12.4 at 115
Car and Driver: 12.6 at 116
Motorweek: 12.7 at 115
Motor Trend: 12.3 at 117
This is just to show that not everyone will be running 12 flat and trapping 119's in their CTS-V, nor would we expect everyone here with a 55 to run high 11's just because a few stock 55s have done so.
Edmunds: 12.4 at 114.7
Insideline: 12.4 at 115
Car and Driver: 12.6 at 116
Motorweek: 12.7 at 115
Motor Trend: 12.3 at 117
This is just to show that not everyone will be running 12 flat and trapping 119's in their CTS-V, nor would we expect everyone here with a 55 to run high 11's just because a few stock 55s have done so.
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I've seen worse times from a CTS-V in person due to traction issues but the trap speed always stays consistent around 115, which says alot about power. I don't want to start magazine racing but here are some similar traps:
Edmunds: 12.4 at 114.7
Insideline: 12.4 at 115
Car and Driver: 12.6 at 116
Motorweek: 12.7 at 115
Motor Trend: 12.3 at 117
This is just to show that not everyone will be running 12 flat and trapping 119's in their CTS-V, nor would we expect everyone here with a 55 to run high 11's just because a few stock 55s have done so.
Edmunds: 12.4 at 114.7
Insideline: 12.4 at 115
Car and Driver: 12.6 at 116
Motorweek: 12.7 at 115
Motor Trend: 12.3 at 117
This is just to show that not everyone will be running 12 flat and trapping 119's in their CTS-V, nor would we expect everyone here with a 55 to run high 11's just because a few stock 55s have done so.
My point was also the E55 is running on drag radials...a huge advantage. Is that the only mod on the E55? The CTS-V driver also looked to be having problems with shifting...which unlike traction issues will slow down the trap speed. I think since CTS-V's are offered with a manual there is also greater chance for bigger variances in 1/4 mile performance. True most stock CTS-V's average around 115mph trap speed (they range from 112 to 121mph), but stock E55's also range from 110 to 121mph on dragtimes:
http://www.dragtimes.com/compare2.ph...onName=Compare!
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Haha...your car is beastly stock. If I made that kind of power in stock form I'd be hesitant to modify it.
TMC M5, your point is well taken. I think we are probably thinking along the same lines though. These 500hp+ saloons perform similarly, in the straights anyway.
TMC M5, your point is well taken. I think we are probably thinking along the same lines though. These 500hp+ saloons perform similarly, in the straights anyway.
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but stock E55's also range from 110 to 121mph on dragtimes:
http://www.dragtimes.com/compare2.ph...onName=Compare!
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http://www.dragtimes.com/compare2.ph...onName=Compare!
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Probably the biggest difference is the cost of mods....
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9yIXf...layer_embedded
The mods (no-Nitrous) of the CTS-V in that video probably cost around $10K (including labor a wheels/drag radials).
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Absolutely! ![thumbs](https://mbworld.org/forums/images/smilies/thumbsup.gif)
Probably the biggest difference is the cost of mods....
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9yIXf...layer_embedded
The mods (no-Nitrous) of the CTS-V in that video probably cost around $10K (including labor a wheels/drag radials).
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Probably the biggest difference is the cost of mods....
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9yIXf...layer_embedded
The mods (no-Nitrous) of the CTS-V in that video probably cost around $10K (including labor a wheels/drag radials).
Tom
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