Methanol Injection Install DIY - FINALLY!
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Finally I finished the meth kit on Hadilaws car.
We datalogged the car upto 120mph and the IATS were are 87F, ambient temp was 89F. We did a couple of back to back runs and the results were more or less the same. So far result seem promising. Will have to strap it down on the dyno. Will report back with the numbers.
As per Hadi who was driving the car, he said it felt stronger up top.
We datalogged the car upto 120mph and the IATS were are 87F, ambient temp was 89F. We did a couple of back to back runs and the results were more or less the same. So far result seem promising. Will have to strap it down on the dyno. Will report back with the numbers.
As per Hadi who was driving the car, he said it felt stronger up top.
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I have my set up installed, last part is the nozzle. Ill do that as soon as I get my 82mm TB back from Bruce (TTM)
Your numbers look good. I just got my Zeitronics / Dashdaq installed, and found some interesting things regarding IAT.
My HE is working well. I put on the PLM with upgraded (Ford Racing) Bosch Pump. I did not have visability to IAT's prior, but here is what I see. It runs about 100 degrees at 70 ambient. I have read they run 30 degrees about ambient when things are good. When I make a run, the IATs do jump over 110, and if I emulate a 1/4 mile, they are up around 140. The good news is that if I drive normal after a run, it comes down very fast.. minutes
I have not seen an IAT over 140.. as hard as I tried. So, with the Meth, I would LOVE to see sun 90 steady. At least until the next mod is worked out. (Below Ambient will be the goal of that effort)
After you turn it off, the SC is just baking, so when I start it, IATs are very high, but again they come down fast
Thanks for your help Shardul.. I will be calling you when I get to the "Remove SC" effort. Just waiting on my parts
Your numbers look good. I just got my Zeitronics / Dashdaq installed, and found some interesting things regarding IAT.
My HE is working well. I put on the PLM with upgraded (Ford Racing) Bosch Pump. I did not have visability to IAT's prior, but here is what I see. It runs about 100 degrees at 70 ambient. I have read they run 30 degrees about ambient when things are good. When I make a run, the IATs do jump over 110, and if I emulate a 1/4 mile, they are up around 140. The good news is that if I drive normal after a run, it comes down very fast.. minutes
I have not seen an IAT over 140.. as hard as I tried. So, with the Meth, I would LOVE to see sun 90 steady. At least until the next mod is worked out. (Below Ambient will be the goal of that effort)
After you turn it off, the SC is just baking, so when I start it, IATs are very high, but again they come down fast
Thanks for your help Shardul.. I will be calling you when I get to the "Remove SC" effort. Just waiting on my parts
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It could be easily used as a power adder if we tuned for it. With the results we are seeing, more timing and leaner AFR's could easily be had. Most people here are just content with the cooling at wot and not willing to risk their engine in case of failure.
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I'll be seeing Jeremy again in a few weeks. I plan on getting a new tune, and also a Meth tune, and put it on my flasher. Then, with Data logging, and the flash, I can run the aggressive tune whenever I want. If it is stable, and I can keep meth in my tank, I’ll leave it. Definitely want logging though.. with alarms
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I'll be seeing Jeremy again in a few weeks. I plan on getting a new tune, and also a Meth tune, and put it on my flasher. Then, with Data logging, and the flash, I can run the aggressive tune whenever I want. If it is stable, and I can keep meth in my tank, I’ll leave it. Definitely want logging though.. with alarms
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that's what was said the first time meth was played with on our cars a few years ago. don't get me wrong, obviously i know it should work but i also know better than to say anything is easy with our cars.
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I agree that nothing is easy on our cars but with the proven results we are seeing, adding in couple of degrees of timing and leaning her out isn't an issue. I'm sure we could both agree that this would only add power and not reduce given that the meth is working properly. My car isn't pulling timing at all on top, the meth richens me up a 1/2 point, and EGT's are down over a 100 degrees. IMO these results show a benefit over race gas by itself.
Even if more power wasn't added it would free up HP that wasn't available due to the numerous reasons why timing is pulled. Well, at least if AFR's were brought back to the original number before meth. All in all it's a good mod and it only helps our engines run healthier and happier....
The only question left is, when do you plan on doing this? I'm telling ya Mikey, it a mod well worth the dollar. Enough people have tried it with success and you no longer have to be the guinea pig...lol.
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After the kit was finally properly installed and running, I raced a 2004 Model CTS-V with a 6.3L engine and a Procharger. He stated that he dynoed 565 to the wheel. At first, before i knew of the SC, I thought it was a regular CTS-V, and decided to run him for fun. When i noticed him only a few cars behind I realized he had something. Surprisingly, he thought the same. We raced once more, and to be sure i let him get a split second jump, then boom, started pulling away again! LOVELY! We then pulled over and chatted.
The meth kit is great, and I know it will give my car more power. Hopefully we can get it on a dyno this week to see exactly how much more.
And a tip to everyone, if you melt your meth tubing, DON'T GIVE UP! Just run over to Home Depot and purchase a 20ft for $3!
The meth kit is great, and I know it will give my car more power. Hopefully we can get it on a dyno this week to see exactly how much more.
And a tip to everyone, if you melt your meth tubing, DON'T GIVE UP! Just run over to Home Depot and purchase a 20ft for $3!
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Can't wait to hit the tracks next month!
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A few members keep recommending these wheels, but none of them have actually mounted them on an E. I'm running them, and I do not recommend them but I will share what I know to save you some time and grief.
As you have found out, these wheels are made for lighter weight Mercedes models using the 12mm shank bolt as opposed to the 14mm we have. As well, the ball socket type seat is a R12, not a R14 like on our model. So with a 5/8 drill you have opened the holes up approx 16mm. Now this is also reducing the size of the ball seat, we will get back to that.
Spacers...3, 5, 10...no good. I'm running 17mm spacers and I have about 3mm clearance for the caliper. You might be able to use 15mm but it will be really close. As a result of making adequate clearance for the brake caliper the tire sits extremely close to the fender well lip. One side was rubbing on my car at the top end of the track. Not much, but I need to roll the fenders before I take the car to the track again.
Back to lug bolts, being that you have a least 15mm spacer you will need much longer bolts. Now, could you use a R14 bolt on a R12 seat? What I found is that the bolt will make contact on the very start of the rim seat. Being that our rims are hubcentric, you might get away with it but again, I would not recommend it. The only company I found that makes a R12 ball on a 14mm shank is RAD USA direct.
Bottom line, these wheels were made not to be used on heavier models. I would limit use to track only or known smooth roadways. Sneakneon and Lopes found a near identical that reportedly are factory S model wheels. Perhaps they would be a better choice.
Hope that helps. Good Luck
As you have found out, these wheels are made for lighter weight Mercedes models using the 12mm shank bolt as opposed to the 14mm we have. As well, the ball socket type seat is a R12, not a R14 like on our model. So with a 5/8 drill you have opened the holes up approx 16mm. Now this is also reducing the size of the ball seat, we will get back to that.
Spacers...3, 5, 10...no good. I'm running 17mm spacers and I have about 3mm clearance for the caliper. You might be able to use 15mm but it will be really close. As a result of making adequate clearance for the brake caliper the tire sits extremely close to the fender well lip. One side was rubbing on my car at the top end of the track. Not much, but I need to roll the fenders before I take the car to the track again.
Back to lug bolts, being that you have a least 15mm spacer you will need much longer bolts. Now, could you use a R14 bolt on a R12 seat? What I found is that the bolt will make contact on the very start of the rim seat. Being that our rims are hubcentric, you might get away with it but again, I would not recommend it. The only company I found that makes a R12 ball on a 14mm shank is RAD USA direct.
Bottom line, these wheels were made not to be used on heavier models. I would limit use to track only or known smooth roadways. Sneakneon and Lopes found a near identical that reportedly are factory S model wheels. Perhaps they would be a better choice.
Hope that helps. Good Luck
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No talking wheels in the Meth thread!!!
In terms of power.. what would happen if the meth mixture was somehow cooled to below freezing prior to injection? THAT, will be my next engineering test.
In terms of power.. what would happen if the meth mixture was somehow cooled to below freezing prior to injection? THAT, will be my next engineering test.
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After the kit was finally properly installed and running, I raced a 2004 Model CTS-V with a 6.3L engine and a Procharger. He stated that he dynoed 565 to the wheel. At first, before i knew of the SC, I thought it was a regular CTS-V, and decided to run him for fun. When i noticed him only a few cars behind I realized he had something. Surprisingly, he thought the same. We raced once more, and to be sure i let him get a split second jump, then boom, started pulling away again! LOVELY! We then pulled over and chatted.
The meth kit is great, and I know it will give my car more power. Hopefully we can get it on a dyno this week to see exactly how much more.
And a tip to everyone, if you melt your meth tubing, DON'T GIVE UP! Just run over to Home Depot and purchase a 20ft for $3!
The meth kit is great, and I know it will give my car more power. Hopefully we can get it on a dyno this week to see exactly how much more.
And a tip to everyone, if you melt your meth tubing, DON'T GIVE UP! Just run over to Home Depot and purchase a 20ft for $3!
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Hadilaw.. how did you melt tube? I need to route mine under SC, any advice will be helpful. Shardul said he would walk me through when Im ready. Maybe I can wrap it in nomex or something