Methanol Injection Install DIY - FINALLY!
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Methanol Injection Install DIY - FINALLY!
I have been researching this project for the past 4 months. Before I proceed further I would like to thank SNEAKYNEON aka Nicholas for all his help and insight. I know a lot of members on this forum run meth but some are very secretive about it and don't want to share the knowledge, I don't know why.
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I have been researching this project for the past 4 months. Before I proceed further I would like to thank SNEAKYNEON aka Nicholas for all his help and insight. I know a lot of members on this forum run meth but some are very secretive about it and don't want to share the knowledge, I don't know why.
So Enjoy!
http://www.**************.com/forum/...ted=1#post2035
So Enjoy!
http://www.**************.com/forum/...ted=1#post2035
looks great! i think i am going to have to relocate my nozzle. i have it approx 1 inch in front of the IAT sensor directly at the Y. see here:
excellent write up. can anyone chime in on why it would be beneficial to have the nozzle further upstream where shardul and sneakyneon have it? quite curious. thanks!
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looks great! i think i am going to have to relocate my nozzle. i have it approx 1 inch in front of the IAT sensor directly at the Y. see here:
excellent write up. can anyone chime in on why it would be beneficial to have the nozzle further upstream where shardul and sneakyneon have it? quite curious. thanks!
excellent write up. can anyone chime in on why it would be beneficial to have the nozzle further upstream where shardul and sneakyneon have it? quite curious. thanks!
Single Nozzle = Same position as Hadi's car
Dual Nozzle = 1st Nozzle Post blower pre intercooler. 2nd nozzle same position as hadi's car
Dual Nozzle = 1st nozzle by TB nozzle size should be small. 2nd nozzle same position as hadi's car
Hope this helps
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i have 2 nozzles that add up to a 10 i believe with the smaller pre blower and the larger at the Y as pictured. if i recall with my setup the smaller number is the larger flow and vice versa. i have a 7 pre blower and a 3 post blower. basically 30% of the flow goes into the SC and the 70% portion sprays at the Y...i thnk i just confused myself lol
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i have 2 nozzles that add up to a 10 i believe with the smaller pre blower and the larger at the Y as pictured. if i recall with my setup the smaller number is the larger flow and vice versa. i have a 7 pre blower and a 3 post blower. basically 30% of the flow goes into the SC and the 70% portion sprays at the Y...i thnk i just confused myself lol
Hadi j/k
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looks great! i think i am going to have to relocate my nozzle. i have it approx 1 inch in front of the IAT sensor directly at the Y. see here:
excellent write up. can anyone chime in on why it would be beneficial to have the nozzle further upstream where shardul and sneakyneon have it? quite curious. thanks!
excellent write up. can anyone chime in on why it would be beneficial to have the nozzle further upstream where shardul and sneakyneon have it? quite curious. thanks!
If you have the Devils own pump you could turn it up to 250 psi. I believe there is a screw on top of the pump that will allow to either turn the pump to 150 or 250. If IIRC another 250 PSI will allow about 1.5-2 GPH more.
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I've got to do something to keep up with your guys. Better get one of these on order: http://www.vortechsuperchargers.com/product.php?p=143 One of these should even up the playing field!
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Nice! When running properly I think this will yield more performance per $ than most MB perf. parts currently sold. That mainly being the fault of over pricing what is available to us.
Running a simple 2D setup referencing say boost and IAT is very nice.
...if your using a PC based programing with many inputs and conditions make sure you double check everything and "save" all changes...
Simple reverse of some changes I didn't save/apply =
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Running a simple 2D setup referencing say boost and IAT is very nice.
...if your using a PC based programing with many inputs and conditions make sure you double check everything and "save" all changes...
Simple reverse of some changes I didn't save/apply =
[IMG][/IMG]
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Given the "up and over" routing of the charge air on 113K's, I think the risk of meth is fairly limited. The Hydrolock cases I have seen have all been been because of leak down through the Intake manifold into the cylinder from either a bad checkvalve or over run pump. There would have to be several liters of water in there for that to happen on a 55K with the injector before the "y". I purchased a Coolingmist delux kit with a normally closed solenoid similar to a N2O setup. This removes the check valve from the equation and puts a positive lock on flow from the pump. This is my extra security blanket to prevent any fluid from injecting without me wanting it to. I think we are going to see some fast cars ou there this fall!
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Given the "up and over" routing of the charge air on 113K's, I think the risk of meth is fairly limited. The Hydrolock cases I have seen have all been been because of leak down through the Intake manifold into the cylinder from either a bad checkvalve or over run pump. There would have to be several liters of water in there for that to happen on a 55K with the injector before the "y". I purchased a Coolingmist delux kit with a normally closed solenoid similar to a N2O setup. This removes the check valve from the equation and puts a positive lock on flow from the pump. This is my extra security blanket to prevent any fluid from injecting without me wanting it to. I think we are going to see some fast cars ou there this fall!
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Good job guys!
I'm glad to see that you getting good results with your set up and happy to help in any way.
I've seen very good results with my set up and have used at least 10 gal of fluid with limited failures mostly related to the check valve. My IAT are under 100 for a 1/4 mile pull's and have made back to back dyno pullys with almost duplicate numbers. As far as I know I use the biggest pully in the the U.S.(195mm) so if it works for me it should work well for anyone.
Like with all mods there are risks, Make sure if your considering doing water/meth you fully understand the risks and ways to reduce them.
Good Luck!
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I'm glad to see that you getting good results with your set up and happy to help in any way.
I've seen very good results with my set up and have used at least 10 gal of fluid with limited failures mostly related to the check valve. My IAT are under 100 for a 1/4 mile pull's and have made back to back dyno pullys with almost duplicate numbers. As far as I know I use the biggest pully in the the U.S.(195mm) so if it works for me it should work well for anyone.
Like with all mods there are risks, Make sure if your considering doing water/meth you fully understand the risks and ways to reduce them.
Good Luck!
Nick
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Would love to see some before and after time slips or dyno pulls with the systems on.
Anyone got any before and afters on either?
Sounds amazing!
Anyone got any before and afters on either?
Sounds amazing!
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The DIY is awesome.. Nick- Are you set up like this? I thought you ran 2 nozzles... I agree with the previous poster.. Dynos would be great to see. When I do my 82mm TB I will def do this mod. Anything to keep heat down is more usable power!! Great write up!
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Latest update HadiLaw has decided to sell his car!
Convince him to keep it a bit longer so we can get some data before he bids her farewell!
Convince him to keep it a bit longer so we can get some data before he bids her farewell!
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As far as dyno and track slips go...
I dont have much to offer with back to back data. I treat it differently than some, Although there is power to be made with this, I use it to reduce power loss... Not sure if that makes sense or not? Basicaly you could be more aggesive with your AFR and timing and make power or you could run the timing safe(18-20) and afr's safe(11.5-12.0) and make very consistant power with no loss due to high IAT's. If you go this route and have a failure in the water/meth you wont be so close on the ragged edge that your going to have an engine failure.
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I am looking at this with the same perspective: Maintain availible power / reduce heat soak. I would agree that unless the car is dedicated track (or you run multiple ECU profiles), it could be dangerous to tune into the availible power the meth can provide. Maybe a little*** more agressive tune, but to leave a margin of error for if/when meth fails or runs out
Thanks!!
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