12 ECU flashes and 3 hours of road tuning!
10-12-2010, 05:20 PM
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nice to see your are enoying the great power.
i really suffer from high TQ at my launch, lo0ol
but it is really enoyable with the LSD, if ESP is off and i hit it hard from 0, rev reachs to redline and the car doesnt move untill it shifts to 2nd gear, it just spins very fast, i am getting some slicks. lol
power is good ^_^
i really suffer from high TQ at my launch, lo0ol
but it is really enoyable with the LSD, if ESP is off and i hit it hard from 0, rev reachs to redline and the car doesnt move untill it shifts to 2nd gear, it just spins very fast, i am getting some slicks. lol
power is good ^_^
10-12-2010, 10:46 PM
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All the small and most the large detials have been taken care of before the Texas mile.. I got lucky and was able to catch Jerry with Eurocharged for 3 hours of live road tuning!! Jerry has been able to make some huge break throughs in our dreaded torque management and other maps that effect how our cars perform.. As soon I as heard, I drove 40 miles to meet him and be first in line to re-work my files/maps and tune!
Holly ****avos! From my first test run, until my last, there is no comparison! He showed me the maps and changes that NO-ONE in our industry can re-work but him! There are over 10, 000 maps and hundreds of files to change, if not thousands! Not only is Jerry a tuner but he is also has a very strong IT managment background, so this adds to his tuning strenght..
He made 12 flashes and A/F is nice and smooth and car was boiling the tires, even in 86 deg heat..
Holly ****avos! From my first test run, until my last, there is no comparison! He showed me the maps and changes that NO-ONE in our industry can re-work but him! There are over 10, 000 maps and hundreds of files to change, if not thousands! Not only is Jerry a tuner but he is also has a very strong IT managment background, so this adds to his tuning strenght..
He made 12 flashes and A/F is nice and smooth and car was boiling the tires, even in 86 deg heat..
So you made 561 RWHP in Sept,[ https://mbworld.org/forums/w211-amg/...t-updates.html ]and this new tune in night and day over that?
I wish you the best at the mile, but I would be cautious. When something sounds too good to be true, it probably is.
10-13-2010, 02:49 AM
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IDK..
So you made 561 RWHP in Sept,[ https://mbworld.org/forums/w211-amg/...t-updates.html ]and this new tune in night and day over that?
I wish you the best at the mile, but I would be cautious. When something sounds too good to be true, it probably is.
So you made 561 RWHP in Sept,[ https://mbworld.org/forums/w211-amg/...t-updates.html ]and this new tune in night and day over that?
I wish you the best at the mile, but I would be cautious. When something sounds too good to be true, it probably is.
Too many times we have seen the dyno and butt dyno preaching
only to see traps and side by side races that say other wise.
So I await with grate anticipation for some good results
10-13-2010, 09:39 AM
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I too am happy for all, but need to see side by side races, track events, traps etc to really see the difference
Too many times we have seen the dyno and butt dyno preaching
only to see traps and side by side races that say other wise.
So I await with grate anticipation for some good results
Too many times we have seen the dyno and butt dyno preaching
only to see traps and side by side races that say other wise.
So I await with grate anticipation for some good results
You guys are missing the whole point.. I have larger injectors now and have re-tuned , I have a trunk tank and tunning the car for the mile.. Running a car unbder full boost for 28 seconds is a new tunning ball game and controlling HEAT is a huge challenge.. You guys cry about 170 deg IAT`s on short 8 second boost runs..lol
I do not know what my dyno HP is right now but assume it is in the same range as before.. I am running richer for the mile, than I would for a 1/4 mile run..
Most the changes made to my car on Sunday, effect AVERAGE HP through the gears and not PEAK hp that you see with one gear on a dyno.. The changes made (10-15 parameter changes) are in Torque management areas and tranny areas.. Again, all this effects Average HP and I assume some peak if TQ MGT comes into play, as it does most the time while you drive..
I plan hit Kurt`s dyno (LSX Tuning) on saturday morning , just to see how my power is in 3rd gear now and look over average power changes in 3rd gear..
As you can see, soon as I told this info to Shardul, he tracked Jerry down within hours and had his car updated.. I think you can see how happy he is..
Either way, I am just doing my thing, so use my hard research/testing and info how you please.. Love it or hate it makes VLD to me..
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10-13-2010, 10:03 AM
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Met up with Jerry last night and got another reflash, he changed some other parameters. All I can say is wow! Burnt a 1/4 tanks of gas in 15 mins
Now I am scared to drive this car in the wet weather.
Now I am scared to drive this car in the wet weather.
10-13-2010, 10:34 AM
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lol, I did the same thing last night! The new tuning is unreal! I was laughing this morning merging on the expressway as I was chirping the tires all through 1/2/3 gear ....... When we first did the tune I was a little too eager and ended up facing the wrong way in traffic lol, quite a difference
10-13-2010, 10:39 AM
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lol, I did the same thing last night! The new tuning is unreal! I was laughing this morning merging on the expressway as I was chirping the tires all through 1/2/3 gear ....... When we first did the tune I was a little too eager and ended up facing the wrong way in traffic lol, quite a difference
10-13-2010, 11:21 AM
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So what are you guys changing? I was just told that all my ecu limits are deleted with my klermann tuning
The only thing left is egr limits and traction control limits
Are you saying you completely shut tc off?
The only thing left is egr limits and traction control limits
Are you saying you completely shut tc off?
10-13-2010, 01:28 PM
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10-13-2010, 01:38 PM
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Yes, it is crazy in Houston! I just ran Jerry down and met him in a Whole Foods parkling lot and got the latest file update 10 minutes ago.. My file from Sunday has been loaded and tweaked on the dyno.. I just saw a video of the dash of this fresh tuned car doing a road test and the traction light was coming on up to 70mph!!!
We made 4 wide band runs and now he is off to Dallas.. Tuning Mclaren, C63`s and I think two 65`s.. The dude is the energizer bunny and even had time to get his wife pregnant again in between all this flying around..
I have also dropped my car over 3" to help cut through the wind for the Texas mile.. More in the front , than rear.. Lower profile front tires, also helped the drop.. The CL is hammered now.
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10-13-2010, 08:34 PM
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Link to video? Pics of the CL?
10-13-2010, 09:02 PM
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can we see some videos?
Here is my car with M/T dragradials and it has no problems breaking them loose with a jab at the throttle.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A7oSPm-2jN4
Here is my car with M/T dragradials and it has no problems breaking them loose with a jab at the throttle.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A7oSPm-2jN4
10-13-2010, 09:14 PM
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can we see some videos?
Here is my car with M/T dragradials and it has no problems breaking them loose with a jab at the throttle.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A7oSPm-2jN4
Here is my car with M/T dragradials and it has no problems breaking them loose with a jab at the throttle.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A7oSPm-2jN4
10-13-2010, 09:16 PM
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You guys are missing the whole point.. I have larger injectors now and have re-tuned , I have a trunk tank and tunning the car for the mile.. Running a car unbder full boost for 28 seconds is a new tunning ball game and controlling HEAT is a huge challenge.. You guys cry about 170 deg IAT`s on short 8 second boost runs..lol
I do not know what my dyno HP is right now but assume it is in the same range as before.. I am running richer for the mile, than I would for a 1/4 mile run..
Most the changes made to my car on Sunday, effect AVERAGE HP through the gears and not PEAK hp that you see with one gear on a dyno.. The changes made (10-15 parameter changes) are in Torque management areas and tranny areas.. Again, all this effects Average HP and I assume some peak if TQ MGT comes into play, as it does most the time while you drive..
I plan hit Kurt`s dyno (LSX Tuning) on saturday morning , just to see how my power is in 3rd gear now and look over average power changes in 3rd gear..
As you can see, soon as I told this info to Shardul, he tracked Jerry down within hours and had his car updated.. I think you can see how happy he is.. Either way, I am just doing my thing, so use my hard research/testing and info how you please.. Love it or hate it makes VLD to me..
I do not know what my dyno HP is right now but assume it is in the same range as before.. I am running richer for the mile, than I would for a 1/4 mile run..
Most the changes made to my car on Sunday, effect AVERAGE HP through the gears and not PEAK hp that you see with one gear on a dyno.. The changes made (10-15 parameter changes) are in Torque management areas and tranny areas.. Again, all this effects Average HP and I assume some peak if TQ MGT comes into play, as it does most the time while you drive..
I plan hit Kurt`s dyno (LSX Tuning) on saturday morning , just to see how my power is in 3rd gear now and look over average power changes in 3rd gear..
As you can see, soon as I told this info to Shardul, he tracked Jerry down within hours and had his car updated.. I think you can see how happy he is..
Either way, I am just doing my thing, so use my hard research/testing and info how you please.. Love it or hate it makes VLD to me..n yes i know you have all these new toys, but other then dyno graphs and butt dyno what else do you have?
Go race a serious car so we can compare
Don't mean to be harsh, but we have had many of these threads (in general) in the past and few have really shown any changes
all the best
10-13-2010, 09:16 PM
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kleemann has been turning off all limits for years now,you guys aint exaclty saying what your changing also.i asked if it was egr or tc tweaks.
ohh and with the light off I can get it to blink wayyyy easier,the car has 2 stages of traction control and with the light on its even harder to make it blink,I can make the thing blink easy if i shut the light off.
10-13-2010, 09:20 PM
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umm we dont do 8 sec runs here... we go all the way till the needle stops, or when the other car gives up
n yes i know you have all these new toys, but other then dyno graphs and butt dyno what else do you have?
Go race a serious car so we can compare
Don't mean to be harsh, but we have had many of these threads (in general) in the past and few have really shown any changes
all the best
n yes i know you have all these new toys, but other then dyno graphs and butt dyno what else do you have?
Go race a serious car so we can compare
Don't mean to be harsh, but we have had many of these threads (in general) in the past and few have really shown any changes
all the best
Oh and here is a quick video.....notice the shifting.....this is in auto and with traction control on...
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10-13-2010, 09:23 PM
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those are drag radials,with my invos i can get the light to turn on in 3rd all day
kleemann has been turning off all limits for years now,you guys aint exaclty saying what your changing also.i asked if it was egr or tc tweaks.
ohh and with the light off I can get it to blink wayyyy easier,the car has 2 stages of traction control and with the light on its even harder to make it blink,I can make the thing blink easy if i shut the light off.
kleemann has been turning off all limits for years now,you guys aint exaclty saying what your changing also.i asked if it was egr or tc tweaks.
ohh and with the light off I can get it to blink wayyyy easier,the car has 2 stages of traction control and with the light on its even harder to make it blink,I can make the thing blink easy if i shut the light off.
Bottom line is your happy with your car, and kleemann took care of you! Thats what its all about.
10-13-2010, 09:24 PM
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my car was in second gear,I have no first gear lol either way it sounds like you guys found some new tweaks.
try driving in second gear and just barely jab the throttle like I did,I went out for another drive and I went sideways and almost did a 180
are you guys doing a tcu tune?
try driving in second gear and just barely jab the throttle like I did,I went out for another drive and I went sideways and almost did a 180
are you guys doing a tcu tune?
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