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12 ECU flashes and 3 hours of road tuning!

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Old Oct 10, 2010 | 08:39 PM
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12 ECU flashes and 3 hours of road tuning!

All the small and most the large detials have been taken care of before the Texas mile.. I got lucky and was able to catch Jerry with Eurocharged for 3 hours of live road tuning!! Jerry has been able to make some huge break throughs in our dreaded torque management and other maps that effect how our cars perform.. As soon I as heard, I drove 40 miles to meet him and be first in line to re-work my files/maps and tune!

Holly ****avos! From my first test run, until my last, there is no comparison! He showed me the maps and changes that NO-ONE in our industry can re-work but him! There are over 10, 000 maps and hundreds of files to change, if not thousands! Not only is Jerry a tuner but he is also has a very strong IT managment background, so this adds to his tuning strenght..

He made 12 flashes and A/F is nice and smooth and car was boiling the tires, even in 86 deg heat..
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Old Oct 10, 2010 | 11:19 PM
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Originally Posted by Exotic-metal55
All the small and most the large detials have been taken care of before the Texas mile.. I got lucky and was able to catch Jerry with Eurocharged for 3 hours of live road tuning!! Jerry has been able to make some huge break throughs in our dreaded torque management and other maps that effect how our cars perform.. As soon I as heard, I drove 40 miles to meet him and be first in line to re-work my files/maps and tune!

Holly ****avos! From my first test run, until my last, there is no comparison! He showed me the maps and changes that NO-ONE in our industry can re-work but him! There are over 10, 000 maps and hundreds of files to change, if not thousands! Not only is Jerry a tuner but he is also has a very strong IT managment background, so this adds to his tuning strenght..

He made 12 flashes and A/F is nice and smooth and car was boiling the tires, even in 86 deg heat..

Isn't a tune the same thing as maps/files? The eprom only holds one file which contain your tune that a tuner alters the maps within.
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Old Oct 10, 2010 | 11:40 PM
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Holly ****avos! From my first test run, until my last, there is no comparison! He showed me the maps and changes that NO-ONE in our industry can re-work but him! There are over 10, 000 maps and hundreds of files to change, if not thousands! ..
An ECU file for the ME2.8 is 512kb which contain 2751 maps. All of the maps are contained within 1 file which is flashed onto the ECU. I have not heard of any mercedes ECU having anywhere near 10,000 maps except for the 63's, and even then most maps are used for emissions purposes.
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Old Oct 10, 2010 | 11:49 PM
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Old Oct 10, 2010 | 11:51 PM
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Wish you the best on the Mile. There will be a lot of benzes representing.
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Old Oct 11, 2010 | 12:22 AM
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Regardless of how many maps our cars have I wish you the best at the mile Brooke! Be safe and represent!!!!!
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Old Oct 11, 2010 | 12:32 AM
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Originally Posted by Exotic-metal55
He showed me the maps and changes that NO-ONE in our industry can re-work but him! There are over 10, 000 maps and hundreds of files to change, if not thousands! Not only is Jerry a tuner but he is also has a very strong IT managment background, so this adds to his tuning strenght..
Did he actually tell you that? It's far from the truth. as for him being the only person that can rework these files, well ummm no. ME 2.8 is a pretty basic Engine management system. Our motors are pretty basic since they run speed density
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Old Oct 11, 2010 | 08:36 AM
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Old Oct 11, 2010 | 09:45 AM
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Did he actually tell you that? It's far from the truth. as for him being the only person that can rework these files, well ummm no. ME 2.8 is a pretty basic Engine management system. Our motors are pretty basic since they run speed density
Just a typo, I meant HAS re-worked them but him.. 10,000 maps and files is my number based on adding up all the sections and numbers he threw out.. Just call it thousdands.. WTF anyway? My shifts are faster now, my TQ limitor has been raised and my injectors -rescaled.

ME 2.8 is a pretty basic Engine management system. Our motors are pretty basic since they run speed density
Talk about far from the truth.. Maybe you should look through all the maps, files and managment systems and how they all relate to ECU and even TCU , not to mention , most in German and they say the word .. BASIC..


You little boys are never going to learn much, if you keep looking for ways to hate instead of keeping an open mind.. Waste of a post to have to copy the files to show the map number but here you go..


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Old Oct 11, 2010 | 11:17 AM
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Lol if you say so. Glad your happy with your tune. Bottom line it's still a speed density car, he's not redoing the maps he's scaling the load tables and it's not that big of a job. ANYONE with some time and WINOLS can learn to tune these cars
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Old Oct 11, 2010 | 12:29 PM
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Originally Posted by AMGPilot
Lol if you say so. Glad your happy with your tune. Bottom line it's still a speed density car, he's not redoing the maps he's scaling the load tables and it's not that big of a job. ANYONE with some time and WINOLS can learn to tune these cars
whats up with all the pessimism.
Since Exotics-Metal55 success, I could not wait so I meet up with Jerry about 20mins ago and had him reflash my car.
I know what paramaters he changed i dont know if i am at liberty to mention them. But let me tell you the car feels violent in 2nd and 3rd gear. Probably going to meet up with him later on today to reflash it with some other changes.
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Old Oct 11, 2010 | 01:24 PM
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Lol if you say so. Glad your happy with your tune. Bottom line it's still a speed density car, he's not redoing the maps he's scaling the load tables and it's not that big of a job. ANYONE with some time and WINOLS can learn to tune these cars
Hey now, I have a wonderful idea for you.

Since ANYONE can tune these cars
And since you obviously have the time.
And all you need is WINOLS skills.

Grab a set and buck up and start your own tuner company
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Old Oct 11, 2010 | 01:43 PM
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There is another moded car here in town with same injectors as my car and Jerry had a great dyno tune in the car.. After our 3 hour road tunning and new parameters loaded in,, this car picked up 20RWHP and 22 TQ over a great dyno tune.. I just heard this news about 20 minutes ago..

A/F and timing is one thing but there are a ton of other files and controls in place at every gear level that have the ability to be changed.. Dyno tuning is a decent tool but usually only done in one gear, road tunning is reality .. Most the 15 or so changes made to my management files are not going to show up in a 3rd gear dyno pull only.. Some will but not all.

Shardul said his tires broke loose in second gear today under part throttle and it is is 84 degrees here..

I love these larger injectors!!! So much extra fuel and small changes go a long way..
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There is another moded car here in town with same injectors as my car and Jerry had a great dyno tune in the car.. After our 3 hour road tunning and new parameters loaded in,, this car picked up 20RWHP and 22 TQ over a great dyno tune.. I just heard this news about 20 minutes ago..
That would be my dad's CLS that's currently on the dyno = ) Jerry is also going to fine tune my CLS with an almost identical file. Both of our cars just got finished being modded with the same exact parts and Jerry is working some jaw dropping magic right now. I was floored when I heard the results as well.......and that's with some slight belt slippage on a mustang dyno. Oh and by the way Brooke, correction.......there are two other modded cars here in town with the same injectors. We're doing twin CLS 55 builds. Can't wait to see what kind of Havoc your car does at the Texas Mile! We're cheering you on man!


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EDIT.........this just in, Jerry picked up an additional 7 HP on the dyno as of your last post. Good lawd!

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whats up with all the pessimism.
Since Exotics-Metal55 success, I could not wait so I meet up with Jerry about 20mins ago and had him reflash my car.
I know what paramaters he changed i dont know if i am at liberty to mention them. But let me tell you the car feels violent in 2nd and 3rd gear. Probably going to meet up with him later on today to reflash it with some other changes.
+10000 there is way too much negativity going on? . If he's happy with the tune and his car is doing well, then let him be.

Congrats Brook, and good luck on the mile run, I can't wait....
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That would be my dad's CLS that's currently on the dyno = ) Jerry is also going to fine tune my CLS with an almost identical file. Both of our cars just got finished being modded with the same exact parts and Jerry is working some jaw dropping magic right now. I was floored when I heard the results as well.......and that's with some slight belt slippage on a mustang dyno. Oh and by the way Brooke, correction.......there are two other modded cars here in town with the same injectors. We're doing twin CLS 55 builds. Can't wait to see what kind of Havoc your car does at the Texas Mile!


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EDIT.........this just in, Jerry picked up an additional 7 HP on the dyno as of your last post. Good lawd!
Yes I saw your parents at SS.

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Yes I saw your parent at SS.

Just read your post from earlier. You sure didn't waste any time getting your HP fix from Jerry huh? Hehehe. How much more violent is your car now?
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Originally Posted by cmusngi
Just read your post from earlier. You sure didn't waste any time getting your HP fix from Jerry huh? Hehehe. How much more violent is your car now?
when i gave it part throttle in 2nd gear the rear end broke loose it caught me off guard
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SO glad he was able to unlock this for you buddy!

It's the magic lamp of the 55! So much babysitting going on with this car in the ECU sometimes!

That was he biggest difference I could feel with my Jeremy tune. Thing would go nuts in 1st and 2nd and for years the ECU kept trying to babysit and shut me down. Not just yellow triangle but torque management and it drives you nuts.

Let's see some vids!
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Looks like I need to send my ECU back to Jerry again..WHEN WILL THE MADNESS END!!
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