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Old Oct 14, 2010 | 03:08 AM
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Is it worth getting one step colder plugs with stock engine?

Can I run the NGK LFR7AIX 2309 with no mods. If not which plugs should I be using on stock engine?
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Old Oct 14, 2010 | 06:53 AM
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No do not run 1 step colder with a stock engine...stock\OEM NGKs work brilliantly.
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Old Oct 14, 2010 | 06:57 AM
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Originally Posted by slownrusty
No do not run 1 step colder with a stock engine...stock\OEM NGKs work brilliantly.
So at what point do you make the switch? After Pulley/ECU, after Headers? after TB & Airbox?
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Old Oct 14, 2010 | 09:34 AM
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Originally Posted by Hammer Down
So at what point do you make the switch? After Pulley/ECU, after Headers? after TB & Airbox?
The rule of thumb that is usually used is for every 75-100chp you add you should go one step colder.
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Old Oct 14, 2010 | 11:02 PM
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Originally Posted by TTMotorsports
The rule of thumb that is usually used is for every 75-100chp you add you should go one step colder.
Thx Bruce, I'm going to order some soon

Last edited by Hammer Down; Oct 15, 2010 at 07:35 AM.
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Old Oct 14, 2010 | 11:58 PM
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Originally Posted by TTMotorsports
The rule of thumb that is usually used is for every 75-100chp you add you should go one step colder.
Sorry for the silly question, but I do not know the answer. Why would you want to run colder spark plugs when you increase the hp of your engine? I always hear to do that but what are the benefits of a colder plug?
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Old Oct 15, 2010 | 05:11 AM
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Colder plugs prevent any hot spots on the plug preveneting detonation. May not be happening but its a decent precaution.

That said the Sparkplug heat is dissapated into the head more easily with a cold plug - so you will have a cooler plug but a hotter head (albeit marginally) and with no pointed hot spots.
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Old Oct 15, 2010 | 12:35 PM
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Originally Posted by stevebez
Colder plugs prevent any hot spots on the plug preveneting detonation. May not be happening but its a decent precaution.

That said the Sparkplug heat is dissapated into the head more easily with a cold plug - so you will have a cooler plug but a hotter head (albeit marginally) and with no pointed hot spots.
Great explanation Steve.

A colder plug can reduce EGT's by 100+ degrees too which is the primary reason for using them!


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Thx Bruce, I'm going to order some soon
I am a big fan of Denso Iridiums. Which brand are you thinking of ordering Jack?
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Old Oct 15, 2010 | 12:44 PM
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Originally Posted by TTMotorsports
I'm a big fan of Denso Iridiums. Which brand are you thinking of ordering Jack?
Bruce which one are you talking about?
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I was thinking about the NGK LFR7AIX Iridium IX
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Originally Posted by Hammer Down
Bruce which one are you talking about?
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I was thinking about the NGK LFR7AIX Iridium IX
A comparable plug for the NGK #7 heat range is a #22 in Denso.

Look at Denso IK22 or IKH22 for a plug comparable to the NGK with a heat range of 7 which will be 2 steps colder than stock.

IK20 or IKH20 are just 1 step colder plugs than stock.

For reference only:
~75-100chp 1 step colder
~125-150+chp 2 steps colder
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Old Oct 15, 2010 | 07:24 PM
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Originally Posted by TTMotorsports
A comparable plug for the NGK #7 heat range is a #22 in Denso.

Look at Denso IK22 or IKH22 for a plug comparable to the NGK with a heat range of 7 which will be 2 steps colder than stock.

IK20 or IKH20 are just 1 step colder plugs than stock.

For reference only:
~75-100chp 1 step colder
~125-150+chp 2 steps colder
iirc, 6 is stock heat range. don't go by ngk's website if that's where you got that info.
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Originally Posted by chiromikey
iirc, 6 is stock heat range. don't go by ngk's website if that's where you got that info.
Thanks for chiming in Mikey.

Hammer asked about a colder plug and he referenced the NGK plug with a heat range of 7 and I referenced what Denso recommends compared to other manufacturers heat indexes.

I would try a Denso 20 which is considered a comparable plug to what NGK offers in a 6 heat index.

The amount of misinformation on spark plugs is . I try and reference multiple sources before deciding on what should be considered reliable information/recommendations.
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Old Oct 15, 2010 | 08:09 PM
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I thought the LFR7AIX 2309 NGK Iridium IX spark plug was 1 step colder than our OEM plugs. If not, which NGK plugs are?
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Originally Posted by dsc
I thought the LFR7AIX 2309 NGK Iridium IX spark plug was 1 step colder than our OEM plugs. If not, which NGK plugs are?
That's what I thought based on the info I got from this forum
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Old Oct 16, 2010 | 12:14 AM
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I thought the LFR7AIX 2309 NGK Iridium IX spark plug was 1 step colder than our OEM plugs. If not, which NGK plugs are?
you are correct.
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