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Old Oct 15, 2010 | 10:48 PM
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Eurocharged/Jerry tuned my S55...

(I realize this isn't the W220 section but it's dead over there and most 55K modders are over here in the W211 section)

So Jerry from Eurocharged was in Dallas today and yesterday and let's just say he is the man when it comes to tuning cars in my book. He takes the extra effort to keep you informed and answer any and all questions you have in depth. He will do whatever it takes to make you happy. I really cant say enough about him.

My car got the 180MM Eurocharged pulley put on last week in preparation for Jerrys tune today. I was so thrilled with the numbers I got from the heartbreaker Mustang Dyno. Numbers are just numbers but the way this thing drives just blows me away. I have had very fast cars but this is my first land yacht that's relatively fast. lol.

Anyways, here are the numbers and full mods are in my sig...

He also did a custom tune on my uncles McLaren SLR so I have included those numbers as well. It's bone stock but Jerry will return in a few weeks for a pulley and exhaust retune.

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369hp/483tq with pulley only
436hp/517tq after Jerrys tune

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476hp/481tq stock
501hp/493tq after Jerrys tune

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Old Oct 15, 2010 | 11:49 PM
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Originally Posted by RAC3ME

S55-

369hp/483tq with pulley only
436hp/517tq after Jerrys tune

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476hp/481tq stock
501hp/493tq after Jerrys tune
Is that supposed to be 396hp before and 436hp after? Cuz if its 369 to 436 thats one amazing tune!
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Old Oct 16, 2010 | 12:12 AM
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Is that supposed to be 396hp before and 436hp after? Cuz if its 369 to 436 thats one amazing tune!
Ya, just looked at my dyno graph... it was 369 to 436!
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Old Oct 16, 2010 | 01:09 AM
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Congratulation buddy very healthy gain! Now you will really have to reconsider going to Famosa!
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Old Oct 16, 2010 | 01:56 AM
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Congratulation buddy very healthy gain! Now you will really have to reconsider going to Famosa!
Thanks man! Ya I wont be able to make it. I'll be out in New Mexico working. It sucks but hopefully I can make next years!
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Old Oct 16, 2010 | 03:07 AM
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Haha no worries hopefully we can see your beast on the track soon!
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Old Oct 16, 2010 | 05:37 AM
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Nice gains!
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Old Oct 16, 2010 | 12:53 PM
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Nice gains, but how were you only at 369.. I thought the 55k dynoed around 400 rwhp
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Old Oct 16, 2010 | 10:19 PM
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I've never heard the Mustang Dyno refered to as the "Heartbreaker"..
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Old Oct 16, 2010 | 10:24 PM
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^^^ +1

I heard the Mustang Dyno gave optimistic numbers. Either way, ridiculous gains!!!
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Old Oct 16, 2010 | 10:24 PM
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Originally Posted by Bramage
I've never heard the Mustang Dyno refered to as the "Heartbreaker"..
i had my car on a mustang dyno when i first bought it and it barely could get 330 rwhp !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


once again dyno #s dont mean crap . the track will tell the truth !
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Old Oct 16, 2010 | 10:41 PM
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Very impressive gains. And yes, mustangs are the heartbreakers. Hard to call those numbers a heartbreaker though.
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Old Oct 16, 2010 | 10:44 PM
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Guys, don't get too caught up in the actual numbers. What you want to look at is the difference pre/post. That's the only thing that matters. A dyno number is just that....a number. Doesn't mean that's what your car is making. Looks like the OP got good gains, regardless of what the starting/ending numbers are. IMO, the only true test of HP, to the wheels, is 1/4 mile trap speed.

Get her out to the strip.

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Old Oct 16, 2010 | 10:58 PM
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Originally Posted by Benz-O-Rama
Guys, don't get too caught up in the actual numbers. What you want to look at is the difference pre/post. That's the only thing that matters. A dyno number is just that....a number. Doesn't mean that's what your car is making. Looks like the OP got good gains, regardless of what the starting/ending numbers are. IMO, the only true test of HP, to the wheels, is 1/4 mile trap speed.

Get her out to the strip.
+1 and well stated

FWIW I have done back to back dyno pulls in the past with the same vehicle, 3 pulls on a Dynojet 248C and 3 pulls on a Mustang Dyno and the MD was always about 15% lower. I think that's what the OP meant by 'heartbreaker dyno'. Just my experience but like he stated above, the difference is what you should focus on. How it feels to you on the street is the single most important thing though, and it sounds like you're happy!

Grats on the gains!
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Old Oct 17, 2010 | 11:10 AM
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RE: Eurocharged Tune

Thought I'd add my recent experience with Eurocharged. I just updated to the latest Eurocharged ECU tune for my SL600, and also have their first TCU tune for this application.

I was more than happy with the previous ECU tune in the SL, it ran great and was seriously fast, but Jerry contacted me a few weeks ago, and offered to update the tune with their latest enhancements. I gladly accepted.

The new tune rocks, better in every way than what I had. Very refined, OEM quality throttle response and part throttle drivability, and the car absolutely flies on full boil. Boost comes on more pregressively in the rev band, the car is both faster and easier to drive on the street. This V12 tune is about as perfect as it gets for the real world.

The TCU tune augments the ECU perfectly. Shifts are faster, torque limiters are gone, and WOT hesitation between shifts is gone. Great addition to the tune....I keep finding excuses to drive the car, the combo is that much fun.

Jerry has tuned/retuned both of my Benzes. Great tunes, 100% reliability, great service, and a pleasure to work with.
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Old Oct 19, 2010 | 12:52 AM
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Originally Posted by NCE500
Thought I'd add my recent experience with Eurocharged. I just updated to the latest Eurocharged ECU tune for my SL600, and also have their first TCU tune for this application.

I was more than happy with the previous ECU tune in the SL, it ran great and was seriously fast, but Jerry contacted me a few weeks ago, and offered to update the tune with their latest enhancements. I gladly accepted.

The new tune rocks, better in every way than what I had. Very refined, OEM quality throttle response and part throttle drivability, and the car absolutely flies on full boil. Boost comes on more pregressively in the rev band, the car is both faster and easier to drive on the street. This V12 tune is about as perfect as it gets for the real world.

The TCU tune augments the ECU perfectly. Shifts are faster, torque limiters are gone, and WOT hesitation between shifts is gone. Great addition to the tune....I keep finding excuses to drive the car, the combo is that much fun.

Jerry has tuned/retuned both of my Benzes. Great tunes, 100% reliability, great service, and a pleasure to work with.

All I have to say of the new Gearbox software upgrade is "BADASS". Another great "back cracking" upgrade compliments of Jerry.
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Old Oct 19, 2010 | 11:24 AM
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Can I assume the TCU flash is available for all models (E55) included? I question the "Torque Limiter is gone".. Is that true, or is it just extended?

I don't know much, but I would have to assume the torque limiter is there to prevent grenading the AT and/or rear End. I know these things are beefy, but we are all pushing 100+ extra HP and Torque, so I expect there must be an engineering limitation as to what these components can take consistently, and at peak. Mind you I want this BAD, but I want to make sure I don't leave my rear end in someone yard

Can this be done remotley (flash or remote tune) ?
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Old Oct 19, 2010 | 11:33 AM
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Can I assume the TCU flash is available for all models (E55) included? I question the "Torque Limiter is gone".. Is that true, or is it just extended?

I don't know much, but I would have to assume the torque limiter is there to prevent grenading the AT and/or rear End. I know these things are beefy, but we are all pushing 100+ extra HP and Torque, so I expect there must be an engineering limitation as to what these components can take consistently, and at peak. Mind you I want this BAD, but I want to make sure I don't leave my rear end in someone yard

Can this be done remotley (flash or remote tune) ?
I hear what you are saying here but does not make sense, i fyou mod your car.. Why would you want to ADD HP/TQ but then have it limited? Just find the HP/TQ number you are comfortable with and stop adding the mods? I find that moding is a sickness and I am one SICKO! Just add Power and keep making parts stronger that break or can not keep up with the power..

For example, I did not wear my injectors or fuel pump out , they just could not keep up.


Rac3me, Very nice gains and your SLR is sweeeeet!
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You make sence Metal, and please note: I want this bad..

I want all the torque, and so did AMG, but if there is a fail safe for when the planets align, and a peak condition occurs, I would like the limiter to assist. I think Jerry ups the limiter, vs. removing it.. That is my guess.

How do I get it?

Lets go.. Im as sick as they come.
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Old Oct 19, 2010 | 12:09 PM
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Thanks for all the comments guys. Mental we need to link up sometime. I need to see that beast!

About the numbers, like I said, numbers are just numbers. This dyno reads really low. If you want crank numbers for my car add about 12% for how low this dyno reads and 18% for drive train loss.

So my crank numbers would be 567hp/672tq.

If you use the same formula with our stock crank number it puts my car at about 347hp to the wheels. A couple other stock S55's dynod around that so I would say that 30% is just about right.
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...Mental we need to link up sometime.
Boy, you said it!!!
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Originally Posted by RAC3ME
Thanks for all the comments guys. Mental we need to link up sometime. I need to see that beast!

About the numbers, like I said, numbers are just numbers. This dyno reads really low. If you want crank numbers for my car add about 12% for how low this dyno reads and 18% for drive train loss.

So my crank numbers would be 567hp/672tq.

If you use the same formula with our stock crank number it puts my car at about 347hp to the wheels. A couple other stock S55's dynod around that so I would say that 30% is just about right.
I think you mean Metal
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Old Oct 19, 2010 | 12:45 PM
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LOL... Ya I meant metal but I guess we are all a little mental if were modding these cars!
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is this only from ECU tune? no other mods?
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