New PB and can smell 10`ss now..
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New PB and can smell 10`ss now..
Was expecting a better DA but it was only minus 91 DA with a 8 mph head wind.. Car still spun and this darn CL 55 Torque mgt just will not allow the tires to get hot..
Have to give credit to my wife, as she made the run and got kicked off the track for the team..lol Thanks to Jerry with EC for driving to my office to check a couple of maps out and make sure we were good for test and tune.. Race weight with my wife and added trunk tank is a PHAT 4525 lbs.. One run is not enough to test and tune either.. Track just is to strict about roll cage rule..
BTW, a 2010 camaro just ran off the track , as he did not know where the end was. ended up in a feild and they started kicking us sub 11.5`s off !
Better D/A , little more tweaking and some good times are therre! Weight is an issue, as all floor mats, etc were in the car and did not even air up front tires tonight ..
Severla of the SL, CL or S class can back up the crazy limiting launch control and TQ mgt our ABC cars have.. No way to heat tires, so car launched, spun and then bogged.. MPH is being limited and so is ET by this TQ mgt.. Working on solutions but this is the major limitor on this CL class and the weight..
Have to give credit to my wife, as she made the run and got kicked off the track for the team..lol Thanks to Jerry with EC for driving to my office to check a couple of maps out and make sure we were good for test and tune.. Race weight with my wife and added trunk tank is a PHAT 4525 lbs.. One run is not enough to test and tune either.. Track just is to strict about roll cage rule..
BTW, a 2010 camaro just ran off the track , as he did not know where the end was. ended up in a feild and they started kicking us sub 11.5`s off !
Better D/A , little more tweaking and some good times are therre! Weight is an issue, as all floor mats, etc were in the car and did not even air up front tires tonight ..
Severla of the SL, CL or S class can back up the crazy limiting launch control and TQ mgt our ABC cars have.. No way to heat tires, so car launched, spun and then bogged.. MPH is being limited and so is ET by this TQ mgt.. Working on solutions but this is the major limitor on this CL class and the weight..
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nice numbers man!!!I know exactly what you mean about getting the car to heat up the tires.My e55 is the same way,even with the traction control off it wont spin for more than a few seconds.
My brothers 04 will sit there and roast the tires all day so I dont know whats going on with mine.
once driving its fine and I can break them loose,doing a brake stand is almost impossible in my car.
My brothers 04 will sit there and roast the tires all day so I dont know whats going on with mine.
once driving its fine and I can break them loose,doing a brake stand is almost impossible in my car.
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Congrats Brooke, that is a great time 
It still amazes me how a huge and heavy car can run low 11s without any weight reductions like that 
4525 lbs is freakin HEAVY
I do think you're on your way to 10s.....
It still amazes me how a huge and heavy car can run low 11s without any weight reductions like that 4525 lbs is freakin HEAVY I do think you're on your way to 10s.....
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Just curious Brooke why you never tried going all out and running er in dyno mode. She will roast the tires for sure, but I agree, it could scary fast if she starts getting wiggly.
Higginsbeach had it down so fast that he would roast the tires in the box in dyno mode, then quickly take her out of dyno and hit the starting line. Not sure how he did it that fast!??
Higginsbeach had it down so fast that he would roast the tires in the box in dyno mode, then quickly take her out of dyno and hit the starting line. Not sure how he did it that fast!??
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I just turn off the traction control via the dash button, and...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q9AkOqgyooM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q9AkOqgyooM
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I just turn off the traction control via the dash button, and...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q9AkOqgyooM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q9AkOqgyooM
Exotic-metal55: How about a few 60-130 times, should have little computer intervention there provided the car gets traction.
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Brooke congrats! At least you're in the low 11's I'm so happy for you!
Haha but yah we definitely have to figure out that torque limiter!
Btw are you running stock 18's in the front!? And stock wheels with Mickey's?
Haha but yah we definitely have to figure out that torque limiter!
Btw are you running stock 18's in the front!? And stock wheels with Mickey's?
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I just turn off the traction control via the dash button, and...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q9AkOqgyooM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q9AkOqgyooM
Sucks when we burnout it just cuts power as soon as we start haha!
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Thanks evryone!
Tried dyno mode last year and car would "john force" the tires with ease.. Would Launch and then go into limp mode.. Also can turn off the burn out limitor with star but if you turn car off, it goes back ..
Yes, will be testing dyno mode on in water box and off at the line or use STAR.. Just wanted to get a solid baseline and work from there..
I have always run the car with stock rims and front tires.. On the back, I run ET streets radials 265/40/18.. I run with stock 62 lb battery too. Stock rotors, as well. I even have the heavy **** duel resonators still on teh car..
So, remove some weight , better tires and master the launch mode next..
Still hoping a tuner can remove it and make it burn baby burn like an E55!
Still running the Texas mile tune and could get more out of it, if we dial in for the 1/4 mile.. Lot of options still..
Tried dyno mode last year and car would "john force" the tires with ease.. Would Launch and then go into limp mode.. Also can turn off the burn out limitor with star but if you turn car off, it goes back ..
Yes, will be testing dyno mode on in water box and off at the line or use STAR.. Just wanted to get a solid baseline and work from there..
I have always run the car with stock rims and front tires.. On the back, I run ET streets radials 265/40/18.. I run with stock 62 lb battery too. Stock rotors, as well. I even have the heavy **** duel resonators still on teh car..
So, remove some weight , better tires and master the launch mode next..
Still hoping a tuner can remove it and make it burn baby burn like an E55!Still running the Texas mile tune and could get more out of it, if we dial in for the 1/4 mile.. Lot of options still..
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Super time! amzing how much your car weighs. Sucks about the Tq managment. A good burnt is key but still a 1.68 not to bad.
I know this is going to be a touchy subject but have you considered talking with another tuner to see if they have advancments in the tq management over your current tuner?
I know this is going to be a touchy subject but have you considered talking with another tuner to see if they have advancments in the tq management over your current tuner?
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Here is my better half and mile/ 1/4 ET competition..lol
sneakyneon Super time! amzing how much your car weighs. Sucks about the Tq managment. A good burnt is key but still a 1.68 not to bad.
I know this is going to be a touchy subject but have you considered talking with another tuner to see if they have advancments in the tq management over your current tuner?
I know this is going to be a touchy subject but have you considered talking with another tuner to see if they have advancments in the tq management over your current tuner?
Not a touchy subject at all with me.. I keep and eye out for alternatives to the TQ MGT concern and to Jerry has been the first to say, if somone has a flash to fix it,, go for it! I know that Jerry is close to having a fix for this, as I saw all the files he recently had translated.. Just not been much demand for it , as most E`s are fine..
My second gear at 5K really hits the tires hard, so they will spin there, even if the launch is ok.. For the weight of the car, 1.64 should be a decent solid launch.. Getting the tires real hot,, is the whole race! Maybe I will film one of the struggles in the water box.. It is laughable at best..
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I couldn't imagine not being able to do a burn out in the box! Our E's will burn for days, but I have noticed spin, bog, go many of times off the line...I wish that would go away! Great times!
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Just heard that Jerry with EC is planning to rent Houston raceway park! AMG day!
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Brooke...What do you mean about Tq limitiation and tranny making the car not be able to do burnouts? Is this the same as the SL55? I didn't feel a boggin after the attempt of a burnout the one time was at the track last year...am I missing something? Is this only on the CLS55? What does ABC suspension have to do with this (I was advised to set the car to comfort mode, raise the suspension level, and turn ABC sport off)??
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Sunir, I do not have an SL55 or CLS55, so not sure what TQ mgt. you have.. I know the 03 SL55 Urnext, does not have this limitation but he said it is due to him having a very early 03 model.. I do know a bunch of the S class 55`s also have this issue..
Why woul you race in comfort? The car starts out in second gear in comfort mode and shifts like marshmellows rubbing together..
My CL55 class will over-ride TC, if the tires start to spin and when that happens, it bogs the car down (power being limited). My CL55 will also over-ride manual mode and shift on its own.. No way to turn ABC off, as that is our suspenssion. You can turn ABC sport mode off but makes no difference on TQ MGT on my CL55 class. I am only assuming the TQ MGT issue , MAY have something to do with the ABC system.. We ahve acceleratomers and other sensors that make the suspenssion adjust, so a lot of spin or nose lifitn at launch, may pull power.. If I had the answer, I would sure post the info..
When I posted this a year ago, no one believed me but now that more CL, S and I assume SL class cars are racing, others have the same issues..
Sunir Brooke...What do you mean about Tq limitiation and tranny making the car not be able to do burnouts? Is this the same as the SL55? I didn't feel a boggin after the attempt of a burnout the one time was at the track last year...am I missing something? Is this only on the CLS55? What does ABC suspension have to do with this (I was advised to set the car to comfort mode, raise the suspension level, and turn ABC sport off)??
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Why woul you race in comfort? The car starts out in second gear in comfort mode and shifts like marshmellows rubbing together..
My CL55 class will over-ride TC, if the tires start to spin and when that happens, it bogs the car down (power being limited). My CL55 will also over-ride manual mode and shift on its own.. No way to turn ABC off, as that is our suspenssion.
You can turn ABC sport mode off but makes no difference on TQ MGT on my CL55 class. I am only assuming the TQ MGT issue , MAY have something to do with the ABC system.. We ahve acceleratomers and other sensors that make the suspenssion adjust, so a lot of spin or nose lifitn at launch, may pull power.. If I had the answer, I would sure post the info.. When I posted this a year ago, no one believed me but now that more CL, S and I assume SL class cars are racing, others have the same issues..
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Sunir, I do not have an SL55 or CLS55, so not sure what TQ mgt. you have.. I know the 03 SL55 Urnext, does not have this limitation but he said it is due to him having a very early 03 model.. I do know a bunch of the S class 55`s also have this issue..
Why woul you race in comfort? The car starts out in second gear in comfort mode and shifts like marshmellows rubbing together..
My CL55 class will over-ride TC, if the tires start to spin and when that happens, it bogs the car down (power being limited). My CL55 will also over-ride manual mode and shift on its own.. No way to turn ABC off, as that is our suspenssion. You can turn ABC sport mode off but makes no difference on TQ MGT on my CL55 class. I am only assuming the TQ MGT issue , MAY have something to do with the ABC system.. We ahve acceleratomers and other sensors that make the suspenssion adjust, so a lot of spin or nose lifitn at launch, may pull power.. If I had the answer, I would sure post the info..
When I posted this a year ago, no one believed me but now that more CL, S and I assume SL class cars are racing, others have the same issues..
Sunir, I do not have an SL55 or CLS55, so not sure what TQ mgt. you have.. I know the 03 SL55 Urnext, does not have this limitation but he said it is due to him having a very early 03 model.. I do know a bunch of the S class 55`s also have this issue..
Why woul you race in comfort? The car starts out in second gear in comfort mode and shifts like marshmellows rubbing together..
My CL55 class will over-ride TC, if the tires start to spin and when that happens, it bogs the car down (power being limited). My CL55 will also over-ride manual mode and shift on its own.. No way to turn ABC off, as that is our suspenssion.
You can turn ABC sport mode off but makes no difference on TQ MGT on my CL55 class. I am only assuming the TQ MGT issue , MAY have something to do with the ABC system.. We ahve acceleratomers and other sensors that make the suspenssion adjust, so a lot of spin or nose lifitn at launch, may pull power.. If I had the answer, I would sure post the info.. When I posted this a year ago, no one believed me but now that more CL, S and I assume SL class cars are racing, others have the same issues..
I want to understand this but am having trouble. I have I think a winter mode and a sport mode I believe (don't have the car presently) I think the '05s + had a D and C for drive and comfort...as for the ABC, I ussually turned that to ABC sport off. Again I've only been to the drag strip once with this car and that was a year ago so don't really remember what I did, I know that Clayton, Ahmad, and Jay were all giving me tips since it was my first time out to the drags and away from the road course circuits I am usually on. Hope to get back out there again soon...
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I have an '03 SL55 as well so not sure if mine has this issue. The TQ mgmt issue is from the tranny? So then will a TCU tune clear up this issue? So when you do a burnout the car bogs down in power? I want to understand this but am having trouble.
I have I think a winter mode and a sport mode I believe (don't have the car presently) I think the '05s + had a D and C for drive and comfort...as for the ABC, I ussually turned that to ABC sport off. Again I've only been to the drag strip once with this car and that was a year ago so don't really remember what I did, I know that Clayton, Ahmad, and Jay were all giving me tips since it was my first time out to the drags and away from the road course circuits I am usually on. Hope to get back out there again soon...
I want to understand this but am having trouble. I have I think a winter mode and a sport mode I believe (don't have the car presently) I think the '05s + had a D and C for drive and comfort...as for the ABC, I ussually turned that to ABC sport off. Again I've only been to the drag strip once with this car and that was a year ago so don't really remember what I did, I know that Clayton, Ahmad, and Jay were all giving me tips since it was my first time out to the drags and away from the road course circuits I am usually on. Hope to get back out there again soon...
Here is what happens, pull back tires into water box and brake TQ tires. They start to spin (if lucky a small amount of smoke) and then just bog down to almost a stop.. Let off and try again and wheels will barley spin.. This is in the water!
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