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E63 W211 Header, Mid-Section & Tune Pics and Dyno Chart

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Old Dec 16, 2010 | 09:19 PM
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E63 W211 Header, Mid-Section & Tune Pics and Dyno Chart

We started this project on Monday to develop the mid section for the E63 to go with our 63 headers. We promised for a Thursday completion date and we finished right on schedule. With that said I'm happy to announce the we now have available for the E63 guys a header mid-section that is 100% bolt-on. No cutting, no welding, needed with this system. As always our systems are made out of stainless steel and are built to last a lifetime.

After tuning, this w211 E63 made 475whp and 428wtq on a Dyno Dynamics. Compared to other 63's we have done; we are very happy with the end result.

*This system will also fit the CLS63 as well







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Old Dec 16, 2010 | 11:40 PM
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OK. Let me get this right. The E63 gained a respectable 58whp with the headers, midpipes and tune but the C63 gained 112whp with the same mods +K&Ns?

If anyone is lost please click here:

https://mbworld.org/forums/c63-amg-w...-software.html


This testing confirms and reconfirms how detuned the M156 engines on the C63 are. Sorry, I am not trying to drift from the main topic, I am just throwing some data. Let me do the final break down:

E63 with some mods(headers,midpipes and tune) = 58whp gains and 54lb-tq
C63 with same mods(headers, midpipes, tune and air filter) = 112whp and 85lb-tq (look at the link I posted)

By the way, good job on your products. You guys are making some incredible high quality products.

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Old Dec 17, 2010 | 01:51 AM
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yeah i herd the throttle body opens very little stock on the c63. something like 70% on full throttle, that why they get so much power with a tune.
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Old Dec 17, 2010 | 03:29 AM
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Originally Posted by C63newdude
OK. Let me get this right. The E63 gained a respectable 58whp with the headers, midpipes and tune but the C63 gained 112whp with the same mods +K&Ns?

If anyone is lost please click here:

https://mbworld.org/forums/c63-amg-w...-software.html


This testing confirms and reconfirms how detuned the M156 engines on the C63 are. Sorry, I am not trying to drift from the main topic, I am just throwing some data. Let me do the final break down:

E63 with some mods(headers,midpipes and tune) = 58whp gains and 54lb-tq
C63 with same mods(headers, midpipes, tune and air filter) = 112whp and 85lb-tq (look at the link I posted)

By the way, good job on your products. You guys are making some incredible high quality products.
I will agree, the C63 is very detuned.
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Old Dec 17, 2010 | 06:47 AM
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Looks awesome. Why did you guys not throw in a h or x design for the mid pipe? That would allow for merging of the pulses and should yield better flow.
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Wow, it sure is clean underneath the car, never took a look before.
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Old Dec 21, 2010 | 03:21 AM
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Amazing work MBH!!
The power gains on this system is incredible.
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Old Dec 21, 2010 | 09:51 AM
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I will agree, the C63 is very detuned.
Any chance a system similar to this is being made for the E55 platform, or has there been one already developed and I missed it?
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Well 200 miles in now and this car is a beast. The sound is menacing at WOT but hardly detectable at cruising speeds. You can definitely feel the difference the mods have made as the car just wants to go anytime you give it gas. I'm really thinking of getting the rear links now to keep the power planted.
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Old Dec 21, 2010 | 12:00 PM
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Any chance a system similar to this is being made for the E55 platform, or has there been one already developed and I missed it?
We decided any header systems we make form this point on will have mid-section. As soon as an E55 shows up to our shop for headers, we will make a mid-section.
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Old Dec 21, 2010 | 12:12 PM
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Great work Mike - our C63 client from last week is very happy with his mid-pipe. Thanks!!
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Old Dec 21, 2010 | 01:52 PM
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Great work Mike - our C63 client from last week is very happy with his mid-pipe. Thanks!!

Thanks Jo.
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Old Dec 21, 2010 | 01:57 PM
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Very impressive numbers Mike Can you post the exact horsepower and torque numbers for stock and post mods?

Finally the E63 is getting some love...
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Very impressive numbers Mike Can you post the exact horsepower and torque numbers for stock and post mods?

Finally the E63 is getting some love...
not the 212 E63
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As someone who has MBH headers and mid-pipes installed on my
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The welds and fitment are perfect. The car sounds absolutely
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Great job to Mike and the guys at MBH/DynoComp.
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Amazing work MBH!!
The power gains on this system is incredible.
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Originally Posted by C63newdude
OK. Let me get this right. The E63 gained a respectable 58whp with the headers, midpipes and tune but the C63 gained 112whp with the same mods +K&Ns?

If anyone is lost please click here:

https://mbworld.org/forums/c63-amg-w...-software.html


This testing confirms and reconfirms how detuned the M156 engines on the C63 are. Sorry, I am not trying to drift from the main topic, I am just throwing some data. Let me do the final break down:

E63 with some mods(headers,midpipes and tune) = 58whp gains and 54lb-tq
C63 with same mods(headers, midpipes, tune and air filter) = 112whp and 85lb-tq (look at the link I posted)

By the way, good job on your products. You guys are making some incredible high quality products.
So with the detuning of the C63 and then opening it up with mods, and doing the same mods to an E63, theoretically the gains should mirror each other, yes? You know, being the same engine platform and all...

Nice looking work, by the way.
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Old Dec 22, 2010 | 10:02 AM
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Originally Posted by I Like Soup
So with the detuning of the C63 and then opening it up with mods, and doing the same mods to an E63, theoretically the gains should mirror each other, yes? You know, being the same engine platform and all...

Nice looking work, by the way.
If you look at the dynos that have been linked it would appear that way. Although the C63 seems to have less TQ generated the peak HP appears similar.
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Do you have a mid section for the CLS 55 with your headers?
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