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Old Feb 25, 2011 | 12:00 PM
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Supercharger not coming on

I have P0410 Code Secondary Air Injection Malfunction.
When driving the car or reving the engine while in P or N gear the supercharger doesn't kick in and the magnet isn't activated on the SC clutch. I was told that when reving the engine the magnet should click and get the SC on. I think this should happen around 2000rpm. Checked the SC clutch itself and it is working. Checked the wiring and seems all ok. Also checked the Secondary air pump and it is running as well (maybe unrelated to this issue).
But for some reason the computer will not activate the SC clutch and the supercharger. Something is not working somewhere...
Can anyone provide any info/diagrams on what actives the Supercharger or what does the computer check in order to activate the SC. Is there any other things that can be checked to trace the problem?
Any info is greatly appreciated.
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Old Feb 25, 2011 | 12:16 PM
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Check air pump relay.

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**edit, just noticed you said pump is working fine. Sorry bout that. This isn't the problem
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Old Feb 25, 2011 | 12:21 PM
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I checked the relay and all is good. Do you have any diagrams for the SC?
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Old Feb 25, 2011 | 12:26 PM
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I think that the car only engages the SC while in drive
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Old Feb 25, 2011 | 12:39 PM
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Can any of you check if yours engages while in P.
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Old Feb 25, 2011 | 12:42 PM
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Mine doesn't while In N or P. Just drive. And I'm NOT trying in reverse... Lol
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Old Feb 25, 2011 | 01:15 PM
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sc only engages in drive under load. to the op how do you know the sc clutch is fine. did you try actuating with star
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Old Feb 25, 2011 | 01:16 PM
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That's odd b/c I've always seen them coming on while in P. Maybe u have the same issue as I'm having???
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Old Feb 25, 2011 | 01:19 PM
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the s/c clutch assembly will spin at idle but the electromagnet is not active so the s/c lobes are not spinning.
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Old Feb 25, 2011 | 01:34 PM
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^^ exactly, it may appear to be spinning, but it's not
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Old Feb 25, 2011 | 01:40 PM
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Originally Posted by shardul
the s/c clutch assembly will spin at idle but the electromagnet is not active so the s/c lobes are not spinning.
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Old Feb 25, 2011 | 01:54 PM
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Well that's exactly wat mine does but the way I checked was by using the small battery thats on the pass side and jumping the wires directly to the SC clutch and guess what the magnet works... But here's the problem as mentioned above the belt spins and when applying higher rpms the SC should engage but it's not doing so.
Any of you have any diagrams or other suggestions so I can get to the bottom of this? What else would prevent the SC from coming on???
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Old Feb 25, 2011 | 01:56 PM
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Also all of u are saying that the SC will never engage while in Parking no matter what the rpms are??? I can't feel it when I'm driving either and that's why I'm looking 4 a way to solve this. Also the check engine light is on...
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Old Feb 25, 2011 | 01:59 PM
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Correct, only in drive. Somethings wrong and it's out of your reach. Take a look at It with STAR
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Old Feb 25, 2011 | 02:08 PM
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STAR???
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Old Feb 25, 2011 | 02:10 PM
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Also all of u are saying that the SC will never engage while in Parking no matter what the rpms are??? I can't feel it when I'm driving either and that's why I'm looking 4 a way to solve this. Also the check engine light is on...
yes it will never engage in park no matter what rpms. (FYI in P and N you cant go past 4k.
Check you IATS and boost via OBDii scanner and see what they are at?
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Old Feb 25, 2011 | 02:14 PM
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When starting the car the AT was 66 then when driving got it to about 160 some when parked at the store dropped to 120s
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P0410 Secondary Air Injection Malfunction... HELP....

NEED Help with this code??? What can go wrong???
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Old Feb 25, 2011 | 03:11 PM
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OK so we can rule out the IC pump. Can you check boost?
Next question why do you feel the s/c is not engaging?
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Originally Posted by SilverE55AMG
NEED Help with this code??? What can go wrong???
the secondary air injection pump can stop working
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Old Feb 25, 2011 | 03:25 PM
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I checked the 40 amp fuse and the relay and all is in working condition, then supplied power to the secondary air injection pump and got a running sound under the passenger side. So it is working. (Or am I not checking the right thing? Is the SAIP same as IC??) Someone mentioned to me that if the supercharger is working the temps should be in 200's from 210 to 240 or so. Any ways how can I check the boost from the OBII??
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Old Feb 25, 2011 | 03:28 PM
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Listen maybe i'm missing something but I just don't feel the power that was there before. Maybe the supercharger is ok but why does the P0410 come up? After all this is what after and I was told that I need to start with the SC because thats what this is about. Like I said maybe I'm wrong and thats why im looking for your suggestions. Thnks
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Old Feb 25, 2011 | 03:33 PM
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IC pump and SAIP are different. THE SC stops working at 200F
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Old Feb 25, 2011 | 03:38 PM
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check the pic, these r the valves that need a check u say???
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Old Feb 25, 2011 | 03:43 PM
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check the pic, these r the valves that need a check u say???
yes if you say your SAIP is working then the next thing to check would be those valves. surge tanks have to come off the remove them.
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