My way of cooling the AIT
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My way of cooling the AIT
After waiting months and months for MBTEK to finish up on the Killer Chiller kit for the E55, I thought how about making my own?
Please don't get excite just yet, it is just a thought in my mind. I'm not sure if it even works.
Here's my thought. Some vehicles come with a small fridge in the trunk. I want to add one of those small fridge in my trunk. Put the trunk reservoir into the fridge. Instant cool AIT.
What do you guys think? And yes it's ok to tell me that I'm crazy
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Please don't get excite just yet, it is just a thought in my mind. I'm not sure if it even works.
Here's my thought. Some vehicles come with a small fridge in the trunk. I want to add one of those small fridge in my trunk. Put the trunk reservoir into the fridge. Instant cool AIT.
What do you guys think? And yes it's ok to tell me that I'm crazy
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We had a portable dometic on my boat. That thing would get so cold it would explode stuff.
http://www.dometic.com/enus/Americas...Refrigerators/
http://www.dometic.com/enus/Americas...Refrigerators/
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Here in TX, I'd be much more inclined to convert my headlight washers into H/E sprayers. I've never had and probably will never have the need to use them. At least as a first line to acutely lower temps, since the plumbing is already done for me.
Wonder if there's a way to add ice to that reservoir....
Wonder if there's a way to add ice to that reservoir....
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Here in TX, I'd be much more inclined to convert my headlight washers into H/E sprayers. I've never had and probably will never have the need to use them. At least as a first line to acutely lower temps, since the plumbing is already done for me.
Wonder if there's a way to add ice to that reservoir....
Wonder if there's a way to add ice to that reservoir....
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I'd still prefer water/meth setup imo...
honestly as long as you take all the precautions and is willing to pay for a good kit it'll save you so much time and money in the long run.
I've been running my Water/Meth setup for a while now and it works great, I know a lot of other members here will say the same!
BUT your idea sounds very funky haha and i'd love to see someone try it
honestly as long as you take all the precautions and is willing to pay for a good kit it'll save you so much time and money in the long run.
I've been running my Water/Meth setup for a while now and it works great, I know a lot of other members here will say the same!
BUT your idea sounds very funky haha and i'd love to see someone try it
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Here in TX, I'd be much more inclined to convert my headlight washers into H/E sprayers. I've never had and probably will never have the need to use them. At least as a first line to acutely lower temps, since the plumbing is already done for me.
Wonder if there's a way to add ice to that reservoir....
Wonder if there's a way to add ice to that reservoir....
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Here in TX, I'd be much more inclined to convert my headlight washers into H/E sprayers. I've never had and probably will never have the need to use them. At least as a first line to acutely lower temps, since the plumbing is already done for me.
Wonder if there's a way to add ice to that reservoir....
Wonder if there's a way to add ice to that reservoir....
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Funny just yesterday I was staring at the piping for the washers and wondering how cool it would be to get those jets to spray onto the H/E. I tossed the idea though after I read a member's post somewhere on here about running a garden hose on the stock H/E for minutes and only lowering temps by 5 degrees
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All ideas are possible and will work, but the question is how effectively and at what compromise.
But im sure if everyone keeps up this great brainstorming, we will come up with something innovative and effective eventualy.
Out of curiosity, does anyone know how effective in line water coolers such as
are in motorcycle/atv use?
http://sales.buysmrt.com/Tusk+In+Line+Water+Cooler
Could we possibly implement something simmilar to aid in cooling, or does it come down to not helping enough to make a diffrence? Just a cheap thought to add to all your great ideas!
But im sure if everyone keeps up this great brainstorming, we will come up with something innovative and effective eventualy.
Out of curiosity, does anyone know how effective in line water coolers such as
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http://sales.buysmrt.com/Tusk+In+Line+Water+Cooler
Could we possibly implement something simmilar to aid in cooling, or does it come down to not helping enough to make a diffrence? Just a cheap thought to add to all your great ideas!
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05 crossfire w/SL55 drivetrain installed by Rudy Compart Intake/Needswings best et-10.76 @ 129
After waiting months and months for MBTEK to finish up on the Killer Chiller kit for the E55, I thought how about making my own?
Please don't get excite just yet, it is just a thought in my mind. I'm not sure if it even works.
Here's my thought. Some vehicles come with a small fridge in the trunk. I want to add one of those small fridge in my trunk. Put the trunk reservoir into the fridge. Instant cool AIT.
What do you guys think? And yes it's ok to tell me that I'm crazy
.
Please don't get excite just yet, it is just a thought in my mind. I'm not sure if it even works.
Here's my thought. Some vehicles come with a small fridge in the trunk. I want to add one of those small fridge in my trunk. Put the trunk reservoir into the fridge. Instant cool AIT.
What do you guys think? And yes it's ok to tell me that I'm crazy
![Big Grin](https://mbworld.org/forums/images/smilies/biggrin.gif)
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Meth injection will drop your IAT's more than 40 degrees. On a wide open run, I could get my IAT's to 150+ very easily. With meth, I do not go over 5 degrees over ambient for as long as it is pumping. I did make distilled ice cubes for a test. The ice lasted all night (it was 1/8 mile track session), and IATs under boost were 60 degrees, with ambient at 75. The killer chiller is a great add, but Meth (IMHO) is a requirement with a highly modified engine.
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The only thing with Meth that is very dangerous is, that if it does not spray when it should, the motor will go boom. I had it on my GT mustang when I bought it, and the first recomendation by my shop was too pull it off. It was a damn good kit too. It is very tempting though Bramage. I may jump back on that band wagon for the beast though.
Dane, do you have two tunes, one for meth and one for blower only?
Dane, do you have two tunes, one for meth and one for blower only?
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It can be dangerous unless:
I do not tune into the meth. My AFR's are set to 11.5 without meth. When I spray, I hit 10.9 - 11.0 at WOT, and my AIT's stay in check, providing stable timing, which in turn does not have a problem with the slightly rich condition. Jeremy and I played with this, and the car is happier a little rich.
If I turn off meth, my AFR is very safe (11.4 - 11.5), and the only drawback is the loss of timing due to "normal" IAT's. Granted, some people are inclined to get that last little bit of power by tuning out .5 - .7% under full load (spray time), but in that scenerio, Meth would be 100% required, or the engine could detonate.
In terms of stability, my kit has been 100% reliable. I think dataloging is a must for this application. I have an alarm if my IAT's reach 120, so if Meth ever fails to fire, I see it instantly.
I also have a greed and red mini lanp on the dash. Green indicates the pump is ON and red is the float sensor. The green is visable out of the cornet of my eye, and I always see when it is on. I call it the "go fast light"![naughty](https://mbworld.org/forums/images/smilies/naughty.gif)
EDIT- Both my race tune and 91 octane tune are based on the same principle. We did not tune for the meth in either.. you give me an idea though...
I do not tune into the meth. My AFR's are set to 11.5 without meth. When I spray, I hit 10.9 - 11.0 at WOT, and my AIT's stay in check, providing stable timing, which in turn does not have a problem with the slightly rich condition. Jeremy and I played with this, and the car is happier a little rich.
If I turn off meth, my AFR is very safe (11.4 - 11.5), and the only drawback is the loss of timing due to "normal" IAT's. Granted, some people are inclined to get that last little bit of power by tuning out .5 - .7% under full load (spray time), but in that scenerio, Meth would be 100% required, or the engine could detonate.
In terms of stability, my kit has been 100% reliable. I think dataloging is a must for this application. I have an alarm if my IAT's reach 120, so if Meth ever fails to fire, I see it instantly.
I also have a greed and red mini lanp on the dash. Green indicates the pump is ON and red is the float sensor. The green is visable out of the cornet of my eye, and I always see when it is on. I call it the "go fast light"
![naughty](https://mbworld.org/forums/images/smilies/naughty.gif)
EDIT- Both my race tune and 91 octane tune are based on the same principle. We did not tune for the meth in either.. you give me an idea though...
Last edited by Bramage; 07-12-2011 at 09:45 AM.
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It can be dangerous unless:
I do not tune into the meth. My AFR's are set to 11.5 without meth. When I spray, I hit 10.9 - 11.0 at WOT, and my AIT's stay in check, providing stable timing, which in turn does not have a problem with the slightly rich condition. Jeremy and I played with this, and the car is happier a little rich.
If I turn off meth, my AFR is very safe (11.4 - 11.5), and the only drawback is the loss of timing due to "normal" IAT's. Granted, some people are inclined to get that last little bit of power by tuning out .5 - .7% under full load (spray time), but in that scenerio, Meth would be 100% required, or the engine could detonate.
In terms of stability, my kit has been 100% reliable. I think dataloging is a must for this application. I have an alarm if my IAT's reach 120, so if Meth ever fails to fine, I see it instantly.
I also have a greed and red mini lanp on the dash. Green indicates the pump is ON and red is the float sensor. The green is visable out of the cornet of my eye, and I always see when it is on. I call it the "go fast light"![naughty](https://mbworld.org/forums/images/smilies/naughty.gif)
I do not tune into the meth. My AFR's are set to 11.5 without meth. When I spray, I hit 10.9 - 11.0 at WOT, and my AIT's stay in check, providing stable timing, which in turn does not have a problem with the slightly rich condition. Jeremy and I played with this, and the car is happier a little rich.
If I turn off meth, my AFR is very safe (11.4 - 11.5), and the only drawback is the loss of timing due to "normal" IAT's. Granted, some people are inclined to get that last little bit of power by tuning out .5 - .7% under full load (spray time), but in that scenerio, Meth would be 100% required, or the engine could detonate.
In terms of stability, my kit has been 100% reliable. I think dataloging is a must for this application. I have an alarm if my IAT's reach 120, so if Meth ever fails to fine, I see it instantly.
I also have a greed and red mini lanp on the dash. Green indicates the pump is ON and red is the float sensor. The green is visable out of the cornet of my eye, and I always see when it is on. I call it the "go fast light"
![naughty](https://mbworld.org/forums/images/smilies/naughty.gif)
You set up is how I used to run on my Evo. Never had any problem (except ball of flame during gear shift). I also run 50% meth and 50% water.
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Meth setup full of Fail safes is the way to go ![thumbs](https://mbworld.org/forums/images/smilies/thumbsup.gif)
Have not used it at the track on a hot 90F day yet,but will definitely keep me from pulling timing.. I'm confident i't can help me run consistently in the 11.1's 11.2's on a nice cool down pass.
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Have not used it at the track on a hot 90F day yet,but will definitely keep me from pulling timing.. I'm confident i't can help me run consistently in the 11.1's 11.2's on a nice cool down pass.
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It can be dangerous unless:
I do not tune into the meth. My AFR's are set to 11.5 without meth. When I spray, I hit 10.9 - 11.0 at WOT, and my AIT's stay in check, providing stable timing, which in turn does not have a problem with the slightly rich condition. Jeremy and I played with this, and the car is happier a little rich.
If I turn off meth, my AFR is very safe (11.4 - 11.5), and the only drawback is the loss of timing due to "normal" IAT's. Granted, some people are inclined to get that last little bit of power by tuning out .5 - .7% under full load (spray time), but in that scenerio, Meth would be 100% required, or the engine could detonate.
In terms of stability, my kit has been 100% reliable. I think dataloging is a must for this application. I have an alarm if my IAT's reach 120, so if Meth ever fails to fire, I see it instantly.
I also have a greed and red mini lanp on the dash. Green indicates the pump is ON and red is the float sensor. The green is visable out of the cornet of my eye, and I always see when it is on. I call it the "go fast light"![naughty](https://mbworld.org/forums/images/smilies/naughty.gif)
EDIT- Both my race tune and 91 octane tune are based on the same principle. We did not tune for the meth in either.. you give me an idea though...
I do not tune into the meth. My AFR's are set to 11.5 without meth. When I spray, I hit 10.9 - 11.0 at WOT, and my AIT's stay in check, providing stable timing, which in turn does not have a problem with the slightly rich condition. Jeremy and I played with this, and the car is happier a little rich.
If I turn off meth, my AFR is very safe (11.4 - 11.5), and the only drawback is the loss of timing due to "normal" IAT's. Granted, some people are inclined to get that last little bit of power by tuning out .5 - .7% under full load (spray time), but in that scenerio, Meth would be 100% required, or the engine could detonate.
In terms of stability, my kit has been 100% reliable. I think dataloging is a must for this application. I have an alarm if my IAT's reach 120, so if Meth ever fails to fire, I see it instantly.
I also have a greed and red mini lanp on the dash. Green indicates the pump is ON and red is the float sensor. The green is visable out of the cornet of my eye, and I always see when it is on. I call it the "go fast light"
![naughty](https://mbworld.org/forums/images/smilies/naughty.gif)
EDIT- Both my race tune and 91 octane tune are based on the same principle. We did not tune for the meth in either.. you give me an idea though...
Once again meth is only being used to preserve not to add power.
Jeremy wont risk an engine by throwing extra timing and just rely on meth to make the power..Not worth the risk