Carbon Ceramic
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cls 55 or FIAT Coupe T20v-6speed
ahah .. that's for sure
but, considering that the weight factor is extremely important for so called un-sprung masses, I would say that those discs are VERY interesting, either for weight and for price.. maybe they do not have the same heat-resistance charcteristics as full carbon but they will not require those much more expensive pads that go with slr's discs, either
.. and, maybe, do not imply those possible SBC/ESP re-programming issues ...
Last edited by dyno; Apr 30, 2011 at 06:37 PM.
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A guy on the C63 forum just bought some after market carbon rotors:
http://www.modernhorsepower.com/cgi-...C63MHPCCROTORS
They use the stock calipers and different pads I believe. No other modifications were necessary.
Im doing some research to see if the E63 optional carbon rotors will fit on a C63 and stumbled across this post.
http://www.modernhorsepower.com/cgi-...C63MHPCCROTORS
They use the stock calipers and different pads I believe. No other modifications were necessary.
Im doing some research to see if the E63 optional carbon rotors will fit on a C63 and stumbled across this post.
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A guy on the C63 forum just bought some after market carbon rotors:
http://www.modernhorsepower.com/cgi-...C63MHPCCROTORS
They use the stock calipers and different pads I believe. No other modifications were necessary.
Im doing some research to see if the E63 optional carbon rotors will fit on a C63 and stumbled across this post.
http://www.modernhorsepower.com/cgi-...C63MHPCCROTORS
They use the stock calipers and different pads I believe. No other modifications were necessary.
Im doing some research to see if the E63 optional carbon rotors will fit on a C63 and stumbled across this post.
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why cant we do a full sbc delete like the w211 e63? is it really impossible to get rid of and if not what would be needed? i mean we can get rid of airmatic pretty easily so why not this? as for the slr's sbc and carbon brakes is it possible, ignoring the price, to fit the slr brake system?
EDIT: 666 posts I guess I'm the omen of the forum.
EDIT: 666 posts
I guess I'm the omen of the forum.
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A guy on the C63 forum just bought some after market carbon rotors:
http://www.modernhorsepower.com/cgi-...C63MHPCCROTORS
They use the stock calipers and different pads I believe. No other modifications were necessary.
Im doing some research to see if the E63 optional carbon rotors will fit on a C63 and stumbled across this post.
http://www.modernhorsepower.com/cgi-...C63MHPCCROTORS
They use the stock calipers and different pads I believe. No other modifications were necessary.
Im doing some research to see if the E63 optional carbon rotors will fit on a C63 and stumbled across this post.
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why cant we do a full sbc delete like the w211 e63? is it really impossible to get rid of and if not what would be needed? i mean we can get rid of airmatic pretty easily so why not this? as for the slr's sbc and carbon brakes is it possible, ignoring the price, to fit the slr brake system?
EDIT: 666 posts I guess I'm the omen of the forum.
EDIT: 666 posts
I guess I'm the omen of the forum.http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PM-ncQv4xgo
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The price is off the charts, but carbon is awesome on the track. I raced with a friend that switched over to carbon in his F430 and the braking points out at road atlanta was mindblowing how much further we could brake going into the corners than with the other brakes. "Even as great as the Porsche TT is with their brakes, the carbons ruled the day.
Once you get the taste of carbon, it is hard to ever go back once you see how fantastic they react, but it is wise to have a sponsor because they will certainly lighten your pockets !!!!
It is great how the technology is advancing. Maybe one day these will be more reasonably priced. Just remember that back in the day a VHS machine was around $800 !!!!
Love the pics.
Once you get the taste of carbon, it is hard to ever go back once you see how fantastic they react, but it is wise to have a sponsor because they will certainly lighten your pockets !!!!
It is great how the technology is advancing. Maybe one day these will be more reasonably priced. Just remember that back in the day a VHS machine was around $800 !!!!
Love the pics.
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w211 E55 AMG
I'm puzzled why these CC wont work with SBC? I priced up a CC package from movit brakes (€4000 per disc) 
, although these were direct replacements to the oem steel discs; and pads suitable for the discs were also required if I remember correctly.
They seemed to think these would be fine and require no additional programing etc.
, although these were direct replacements to the oem steel discs; and pads suitable for the discs were also required if I remember correctly.They seemed to think these would be fine and require no additional programing etc.
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w211 E55 AMG
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People were claiming that the co-efficient of friction was different from steel rotors to CC rotors and that the SBCGLOBAL needed programming to change the values. The thing is that no one actually did it due to the costs of these rotors.
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w211 E55 AMG
I'm third owner, but I bought it directly form MB dealer in my country with all maintenance records and service history with only 120 000km (74500 miles). It might sound like high mileage, but here all cars for sale got 200k km or more (124k miles). My mechanic got 330k km (205k miles) on his car and it's still fast as hell and looking like new!as I said before, brakes work very well
if someone can afford it, it is nice upgrade 
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Can you take better pictures? I can't tell if the rotor is the carbon ceramic or not, the caliper is definitely not, it's supposed to be the orange color that says carbon ceramic.
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w211 E55 AMG
previous owner told me that he didn't liked the color of CC caliper, so he got it resprayed...however, to me it looks like the brake caliper is standard E63 caliper and brake pad. Anyway, they are braking better than standard E55 brakes and they are not fading out at all. Even after multiple hard braking from high speeds. I will try find out part numbers once I will got time to put the wheel off.
Btw the conversion was done by a mechanic who works for official MB dealer, but because CC was not option for E55 it is not in the datacard of vehicle.
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04 E55 B07, 11 CL63, 17 GLE63S
rotor itself is definitely CC
previous owner told me that he didn't liked the color of CC caliper, so he got it resprayed...however, to me it looks like the brake caliper is standard E63 caliper and brake pad. Anyway, they are braking better than standard E55 brakes and they are not fading out at all. Even after multiple hard braking from high speeds. I will try find out part numbers once I will got time to put the wheel off.
Btw the conversion was done by a mechanic who works for official MB dealer, but because CC was not option for E55 it is not in the datacard of vehicle.
previous owner told me that he didn't liked the color of CC caliper, so he got it resprayed...however, to me it looks like the brake caliper is standard E63 caliper and brake pad. Anyway, they are braking better than standard E55 brakes and they are not fading out at all. Even after multiple hard braking from high speeds. I will try find out part numbers once I will got time to put the wheel off.
Btw the conversion was done by a mechanic who works for official MB dealer, but because CC was not option for E55 it is not in the datacard of vehicle.
If you can take the wheels off and take some better pictures would be greatly appreciated as I'm looking to go the same route, but I would def keep the caliper the same color to look oem. With the gray color that you have it looks more low key, doesn't stand out too much and sometimes that's good.
Are you looking into doing the rear as well in the future?
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Did someone say Carbon Ceramic?
Here are some rotors that are from the SLR with some aluminum rotor hats custom made to W211 E55 specs.
In order to do this you have to buy SLR rotors from the dealer. Remove the stock SLR rotor hats and then find a machine shop to made some custom rotors. Then take it to another shop to anodize the aluminum. After that you need to find a shop that will balance the rotor hat weights to make sure the rotors are true and balanced.
Here are some rotors that are from the SLR with some aluminum rotor hats custom made to W211 E55 specs.
In order to do this you have to buy SLR rotors from the dealer. Remove the stock SLR rotor hats and then find a machine shop to made some custom rotors. Then take it to another shop to anodize the aluminum. After that you need to find a shop that will balance the rotor hat weights to make sure the rotors are true and balanced.
Last edited by Dan Wang; Feb 24, 2013 at 04:20 PM. Reason: Sp
