Bike Race in the highway against my E55
05-24-2003, 11:43 PM
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Originally posted by 03E55AMG
See, still with the ignorant negative not believe of what I did, live in your own world. Now if you ever come down to Otown throw me a line so you can see how its not a mistery cars beating bikes here.
Now, if you don't think the Supra ran 9.0@160 on radials then visit this site and live it yourself www.titanmotorsports.com then we'll go from there, they have the video of that run with the radials...
See, still with the ignorant negative not believe of what I did, live in your own world. Now if you ever come down to Otown throw me a line so you can see how its not a mistery cars beating bikes here.
Now, if you don't think the Supra ran 9.0@160 on radials then visit this site and live it yourself www.titanmotorsports.com then we'll go from there, they have the video of that run with the radials...
FOR THE LAST TIME I DID NOT SAY THAT YOU COULDN'T BEAT A 600 MOTORBIKE. You obviously failed English comprehension and possibly reading at school!!!
My original statement still stands. There is no way a 12.5 sec, 116mph trap car can out accelerate a 10.7sec, 127mph trap 600cc motorbike.
No amount of Internet posting and chest puffing will change that.
I don't need to come to Otown to prove it, the readily available public record statistics do that for me.
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05-25-2003, 01:10 AM
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Originally posted by stephens
I went to the site, that is not a street car and it is certainly not a Mercedes Benz E55, it is the Titan Motor Sports Racing Car (their words, not mine), so what have you proved aside from posting a link to a drag car (which for the record they list as THEIR car and it does not appear under customer cars.)?
My statement still stands. There is no way a 12.5 -116mph trap car can out accelerate a 10.7sec 127mph trap 600cc motorbike.
No amount of Internet posting will change that.
I don't need to come to Otown to prove that, the readily available public record statistics do that for me.
I went to the site, that is not a street car and it is certainly not a Mercedes Benz E55, it is the Titan Motor Sports Racing Car (their words, not mine), so what have you proved aside from posting a link to a drag car (which for the record they list as THEIR car and it does not appear under customer cars.)?
My statement still stands. There is no way a 12.5 -116mph trap car can out accelerate a 10.7sec 127mph trap 600cc motorbike.
No amount of Internet posting will change that.
I don't need to come to Otown to prove that, the readily available public record statistics do that for me.
05-25-2003, 01:31 AM
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I respectfully suggest you put your ego back in the draw and read this thread once more.
I do not think bikes are superior to cars in any way. I have forcibley argued the other side on may occaisions.
Which is faster around a race circuit an F1 car or a MotoGP bike. Answer F1 car.
What is fastest down the quarter? Answer drag car by a country mile.
What is faster the fastest bike in the world or the fastest car? Answer car by a mile again.
I have no bike hangup whatso ever, just a recreational sport I indulge myself in for the adrenalin rush. But I am objective and realistic.
Realistic enough to know that if I try to run a current model 600cc plus sportbike I am going to have my *** handed to me on a platter.
I respectfully suggest you put your ego back in the draw and read this thread once more.
I do not think bikes are superior to cars in any way. I have forcibley argued the other side on may occaisions.
Which is faster around a race circuit an F1 car or a MotoGP bike. Answer F1 car.
What is fastest down the quarter? Answer drag car by a country mile.
What is faster the fastest bike in the world or the fastest car? Answer car by a mile again.
I have no bike hangup whatso ever, just a recreational sport I indulge myself in for the adrenalin rush. But I am objective and realistic.
Realistic enough to know that if I try to run a current model 600cc plus sportbike I am going to have my *** handed to me on a platter.
05-25-2003, 01:40 AM
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Originally posted by stephens
Realistic enough to know that if I try to run a current model 600cc plus sportbike I am going to have my *** handed to me on a platter.
Realistic enough to know that if I try to run a current model 600cc plus sportbike I am going to have my *** handed to me on a platter.
05-25-2003, 10:09 AM
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Originally posted by stephens
What have you been arguing about then?
What have you been arguing about then?
05-25-2003, 12:37 PM
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> There is NO ONE on this board whose car could even come close to my Ducati 999
That's a rather bold statement. My RT Viper has run 152 MPH in the 1/4, and I have the timeslip to prove it. Care to reconsider your assertion?
Regarding 600cc bike vs E55 from a freeway roll-on, the relevant question is not what the two vehicles run in the 1/4. It is instead how quickly they accelerate from ~70 MPH. If you look at the 1/8th and 1/4 stats on the two vehicles, you will see that the bike makes most of its time in the 1/8th by getting off the line quickly, but the car does (relatively) much better on the big end of the track.
In practical terms, I have a friend who races in AFM expert 600cc division. About a year ago we pitted his '01 YZF-R6 (600cc Yamaha sportbike) against my wife's 117mph-trapspeed Viper GTS. The results were interesting. From 60 to 90 MPH the car and bike were *dead* even... run after run after run. The R6 had to shift at 90, and the Viper would then pull ahead by a couple carlengths from 90 to 110, at which point we shut down. Thus, I have no trouble believing that an '03 E55 would stay even with a modern 600cc sportbike from a freeway roll, and would pull ahead at higher speeds.
If someone in the Bay Area with a 600cc bike wants to put this to the test, we arrange a little 'meeting' to pit the bike against my 121mph S600...
That's a rather bold statement. My RT Viper has run 152 MPH in the 1/4, and I have the timeslip to prove it. Care to reconsider your assertion?
Regarding 600cc bike vs E55 from a freeway roll-on, the relevant question is not what the two vehicles run in the 1/4. It is instead how quickly they accelerate from ~70 MPH. If you look at the 1/8th and 1/4 stats on the two vehicles, you will see that the bike makes most of its time in the 1/8th by getting off the line quickly, but the car does (relatively) much better on the big end of the track.
In practical terms, I have a friend who races in AFM expert 600cc division. About a year ago we pitted his '01 YZF-R6 (600cc Yamaha sportbike) against my wife's 117mph-trapspeed Viper GTS. The results were interesting. From 60 to 90 MPH the car and bike were *dead* even... run after run after run. The R6 had to shift at 90, and the Viper would then pull ahead by a couple carlengths from 90 to 110, at which point we shut down. Thus, I have no trouble believing that an '03 E55 would stay even with a modern 600cc sportbike from a freeway roll, and would pull ahead at higher speeds.
If someone in the Bay Area with a 600cc bike wants to put this to the test, we arrange a little 'meeting' to pit the bike against my 121mph S600...
05-25-2003, 12:48 PM
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Originally posted by treynor
> There is NO ONE on this board whose car could even come close to my Ducati 999
That's a rather bold statement. My RT Viper has run 152 MPH in the 1/4, and I have the timeslip to prove it. Care to reconsider your assertion?
Regarding 600cc bike vs E55 from a freeway roll-on, the relevant question is not what the two vehicles run in the 1/4. It is instead how quickly they accelerate from ~70 MPH. If you look at the 1/8th and 1/4 stats on the two vehicles, you will see that the bike makes most of its time in the 1/8th by getting off the line quickly, but the car does (relatively) much better on the big end of the track.
In practical terms, I have a friend who races in AFM expert 600cc division. About a year ago we pitted his '01 YZF-R6 (600cc Yamaha sportbike) against my wife's 117mph-trapspeed Viper GTS. The results were interesting. From 60 to 90 MPH the car and bike were *dead* even... run after run after run. The R6 had to shift at 90, and the Viper would then pull ahead by a couple carlengths from 90 to 110, at which point we shut down. Thus, I have no trouble believing that an '03 E55 would stay even with a modern 600cc sportbike from a freeway roll, and would pull ahead at higher speeds.
If someone in the Bay Area with a 600cc bike wants to put this to the test, we arrange a little 'meeting' to pit the bike against my 121mph S600...
> There is NO ONE on this board whose car could even come close to my Ducati 999
That's a rather bold statement. My RT Viper has run 152 MPH in the 1/4, and I have the timeslip to prove it. Care to reconsider your assertion?
Regarding 600cc bike vs E55 from a freeway roll-on, the relevant question is not what the two vehicles run in the 1/4. It is instead how quickly they accelerate from ~70 MPH. If you look at the 1/8th and 1/4 stats on the two vehicles, you will see that the bike makes most of its time in the 1/8th by getting off the line quickly, but the car does (relatively) much better on the big end of the track.
In practical terms, I have a friend who races in AFM expert 600cc division. About a year ago we pitted his '01 YZF-R6 (600cc Yamaha sportbike) against my wife's 117mph-trapspeed Viper GTS. The results were interesting. From 60 to 90 MPH the car and bike were *dead* even... run after run after run. The R6 had to shift at 90, and the Viper would then pull ahead by a couple carlengths from 90 to 110, at which point we shut down. Thus, I have no trouble believing that an '03 E55 would stay even with a modern 600cc sportbike from a freeway roll, and would pull ahead at higher speeds.
If someone in the Bay Area with a 600cc bike wants to put this to the test, we arrange a little 'meeting' to pit the bike against my 121mph S600...
05-25-2003, 04:41 PM
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Originally posted by treynor
> There is NO ONE on this board whose car could even come close to my Ducati 999
That's a rather bold statement. My RT Viper has run 152 MPH in the 1/4, and I have the timeslip to prove it. Care to reconsider your assertion?
Regarding 600cc bike vs E55 from a freeway roll-on, the relevant question is not what the two vehicles run in the 1/4. It is instead how quickly they accelerate from ~70 MPH. If you look at the 1/8th and 1/4 stats on the two vehicles, you will see that the bike makes most of its time in the 1/8th by getting off the line quickly, but the car does (relatively) much better on the big end of the track.
In practical terms, I have a friend who races in AFM expert 600cc division. About a year ago we pitted his '01 YZF-R6 (600cc Yamaha sportbike) against my wife's 117mph-trapspeed Viper GTS. The results were interesting. From 60 to 90 MPH the car and bike were *dead* even... run after run after run. The R6 had to shift at 90, and the Viper would then pull ahead by a couple carlengths from 90 to 110, at which point we shut down. Thus, I have no trouble believing that an '03 E55 would stay even with a modern 600cc sportbike from a freeway roll, and would pull ahead at higher speeds.
If someone in the Bay Area with a 600cc bike wants to put this to the test, we arrange a little 'meeting' to pit the bike against my 121mph S600...
> There is NO ONE on this board whose car could even come close to my Ducati 999
That's a rather bold statement. My RT Viper has run 152 MPH in the 1/4, and I have the timeslip to prove it. Care to reconsider your assertion?
Regarding 600cc bike vs E55 from a freeway roll-on, the relevant question is not what the two vehicles run in the 1/4. It is instead how quickly they accelerate from ~70 MPH. If you look at the 1/8th and 1/4 stats on the two vehicles, you will see that the bike makes most of its time in the 1/8th by getting off the line quickly, but the car does (relatively) much better on the big end of the track.
In practical terms, I have a friend who races in AFM expert 600cc division. About a year ago we pitted his '01 YZF-R6 (600cc Yamaha sportbike) against my wife's 117mph-trapspeed Viper GTS. The results were interesting. From 60 to 90 MPH the car and bike were *dead* even... run after run after run. The R6 had to shift at 90, and the Viper would then pull ahead by a couple carlengths from 90 to 110, at which point we shut down. Thus, I have no trouble believing that an '03 E55 would stay even with a modern 600cc sportbike from a freeway roll, and would pull ahead at higher speeds.
If someone in the Bay Area with a 600cc bike wants to put this to the test, we arrange a little 'meeting' to pit the bike against my 121mph S600...
05-25-2003, 04:50 PM
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Do you still have the Viper? I can't beleive that it was doing 152mph traps on street rubber..., so I'd probably give you a run for your money. My Duc does a 10.2 @ 139 on street tyres (not road legal drag slicks).
That doesn't take away the fact that the Viper is VERY impressive.
Do you still have the Viper? I can't beleive that it was doing 152mph traps on street rubber..., so I'd probably give you a run for your money. My Duc does a 10.2 @ 139 on street tyres (not road legal drag slicks).
That doesn't take away the fact that the Viper is VERY impressive.
05-25-2003, 05:20 PM
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I do still have the Viper, and it did 3 back-to-back 151-152 MPH runs on DOT tires. It's not hard to believe when you look at its dyno sheet The only reason it's not faster is you can't make it hook up for the first couple 100 feet of the 'strip.
I'll definitely try to get video of the S600-vs-600cc race if anyone local takes me up on it!
The only reason it's not faster is you can't make it hook up for the first couple 100 feet of the 'strip.I'll definitely try to get video of the S600-vs-600cc race if anyone local takes me up on it!
05-25-2003, 10:29 PM
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FWIW, I used to have a Graves Yamaha YZF-R1 (400 lbs wet, 150 RWHP) which I would take out on track days and thrash at Laguna Seca, Thunder Hill, Sears Point, and Buttonwillow. I do know what you mean about bikes being fast, and dollar-for-dollar nothing else can touch them for performance. However, since my wife banned me from road bikes (we've got two children) I've had to content myself with fast cars...
05-26-2003, 05:23 AM
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Oooh look at those dyno figures..... soooo close to 1000HP. Dang, maybe given the 3% margin of error, that engine could well be producing over 1000HP. Awesome stuff. Who did the tuning??
05-26-2003, 05:31 PM
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On the dyno run, we were using drag slicks for traction on the dyno drum, and they still spun at 4900. It's making approximately 1050 RWHP, or about 1230 engine HP.
1/4 mile is nothing too impressive, since it can't hook up at the small end of the track. Best so far is 10.11 @ 152
1/4 mile is nothing too impressive, since it can't hook up at the small end of the track. Best so far is 10.11 @ 152
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Hey 03e55amg,
Who am I? I'm just someone who was adding some clarity to the situation.
I see a lot of misinformation on these forums and at times i feel i must act.
Some of your comments were inacurrate so i added information to help the situation.
I thought the forum was 'mbworld' NOT '03e55amgworld', so i guess my comments are a welcome as yours
Who am I? I'm just someone who was adding some clarity to the situation.
I see a lot of misinformation on these forums and at times i feel i must act.
Some of your comments were inacurrate so i added information to help the situation.
I thought the forum was 'mbworld' NOT '03e55amgworld', so i guess my comments are a welcome as yours
05-27-2003, 05:45 PM
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Originally posted by Ian
I thought the forum was 'mbworld' NOT '03e55amgworld', so i guess my comments are a welcome as yours
I thought the forum was 'mbworld' NOT '03e55amgworld', so i guess my comments are a welcome as yours
Some of your comments were inacurrate so i added information to help the situation.
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With 3 or 4 posts to you dozens in this thread, i'm not trying to start anything, you seem the one who gets upset when anyone corrects your mistakes.
I'm happy to end it here, no need to respond
I'm happy to end it here, no need to respond
