June Issue of Road and Track
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June Issue of Road and Track
don't know if this has already been posted but the issue has a Comparo between E55, RS6, M5, and Jag Stype R. To give you the highlights the Jag got 4th, the BMW got THIRD, the RS6 got second, and the E55 GOT FIRST.
whats even more impressive is the E55 times:
0-60- 4.2 seconds
0-100 - 9.4
1/4 mile - 12.4 @ 116.4 mph
they said it possessed "sheer, overwhelming hot-rod thrust"
for perspective the 360 Modena got 0-60 in 4.3, and quarter in 12.8 @112
they also praised the interior, suspension, and transmission
whats even more impressive is the E55 times:
0-60- 4.2 seconds
0-100 - 9.4
1/4 mile - 12.4 @ 116.4 mph
they said it possessed "sheer, overwhelming hot-rod thrust"
for perspective the 360 Modena got 0-60 in 4.3, and quarter in 12.8 @112
they also praised the interior, suspension, and transmission
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Ooo yes
, and I was really impressed becasue I do believe that is the first TIME that an AMG, or a Mercedes-Benz win a car's mag review.
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I think this is the third time the review was mentioned.
You can check out the other threads about this article here:
https://mbworld.org/forums/showthrea...threadid=38927
https://mbworld.org/forums/showthrea...threadid=38167
You can check out the other threads about this article here:
https://mbworld.org/forums/showthrea...threadid=38927
https://mbworld.org/forums/showthrea...threadid=38167
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Originally posted by t-bone
I think this is the third time the review was mentioned.
You can check out the other threads about this article here:
https://mbworld.org/forums/showthrea...threadid=38927
https://mbworld.org/forums/showthrea...threadid=38167
I think this is the third time the review was mentioned.
You can check out the other threads about this article here:
https://mbworld.org/forums/showthrea...threadid=38927
https://mbworld.org/forums/showthrea...threadid=38167
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then he deserves this:
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Originally posted by Pierre32///AMG
Ooo yes
, and I was really impressed becasue I do believe that is the first TIME that an AMG, or a Mercedes-Benz win a car's mag review.
Ooo yes
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- C&D Mar. '03 : E320 (W211) wins over BMW 530, Audi A6, Lexus GS300, Infiniti M45, Lincoln LS, and Jag S-type
- R&T Feb. '98 : E430 (W210) wins over BMW 540, Lexus GS400, and Cadillac STS
- R&T Mar. '95 : E420 (W124) wins over BMW 540, Lexus LS400, Infiniti Q45, Cadillac STS, and Lincoln Continental.
The AMG wins are less, as BMW M tends to dominate. But the new E55 has already won several comparison tests in the European mags.
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and it will continue to win....
until the new M5 hits the streets. All the technology in the new E55 is new so of course it should beat the heck out of something that is 7 years old. I love AMG vehicles but the new M5 is gonna give it a run for the money. Suppose to have around 500 hp. Yikes...
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That is if one can overcome its hideous appearance. When I was at the AMG event Wednesday, Rich Ceppos-Editor of Autoweek- was there and I was discussing BMW's latest vehicles. He said their reader polls were very critical of BMW's direction and the majority didn't like the new 5 series.
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Re: and it will continue to win....
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until the new M5 hits the streets. All the technology in the new E55 is new so of course it should beat the heck out of something that is 7 years old. I love AMG vehicles but the new M5 is gonna give it a run for the money. Suppose to have around 500 hp. Yikes...
until the new M5 hits the streets. All the technology in the new E55 is new so of course it should beat the heck out of something that is 7 years old. I love AMG vehicles but the new M5 is gonna give it a run for the money. Suppose to have around 500 hp. Yikes...
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Originally posted by BoBcanada
I think BMW is spying on E55 first and then makes their cars stronger to beat E55, Why you think they always one year late with their M5?
I think BMW is spying on E55 first and then makes their cars stronger to beat E55, Why you think they always one year late with their M5?
I'd say they don't play fair/clean
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Mercedes Benz > Innovator
BMW > Follower
Mercedes Benz > Innovator
BMW > Follower
BMW has many innovations that MB has yet to match, and vice versa.
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Originally posted by sticky2
Believe that if it makes you feel better. The m3 was launched before the c32, who's waiting for who now? The z4 also came out before the next gen slk, and the 7 series before the next generation s class.
BMW has many innovations that MB has yet to match, and vice versa.
Believe that if it makes you feel better. The m3 was launched before the c32, who's waiting for who now? The z4 also came out before the next gen slk, and the 7 series before the next generation s class.
BMW has many innovations that MB has yet to match, and vice versa.
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...and the 7 series (was launched) before the next generation s class.
...and the 7 series (was launched) before the next generation s class.
BMW took the opportunity to delay the 7 due to either 1) a perceived need to counter and exceed all key S amenities offered by MB, or 2) because the "I-drive" was bugged.
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Actually the 7 series was DELAYED because of the launch of the S Class, according to industry insiders. Whether or not the reasons behind the delay are correct, the S was supposed to have preceded the 7 by 18 months.
BMW took the opportunity to delay the 7 due to either 1) a perceived need to counter and exceed all key S amenities offered by MB, or 2) because the "I-drive" was bugged.
Actually the 7 series was DELAYED because of the launch of the S Class, according to industry insiders. Whether or not the reasons behind the delay are correct, the S was supposed to have preceded the 7 by 18 months.
BMW took the opportunity to delay the 7 due to either 1) a perceived need to counter and exceed all key S amenities offered by MB, or 2) because the "I-drive" was bugged.
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I got the magazine a couple of days back.
I felt that although they gave the E 55 firsta place, they wrote more enthusisatically about the RS 6. My wife disagrees. Thoughts?
I felt that although they gave the E 55 firsta place, they wrote more enthusisatically about the RS 6. My wife disagrees. Thoughts?
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The RS6 did win on pure points without the price factor, the E55's lower price gave it the win. I like the RS6, but spending $80K+ on an Audi? No way Jose.
Also, Steve Millen picked the E55 as his personal choice. As he's the only true racer of the bunch, his view on the E55 is what stuck out in my mind.
Also, Steve Millen picked the E55 as his personal choice. As he's the only true racer of the bunch, his view on the E55 is what stuck out in my mind.
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Even Millen's comments are conditional. But I was referring to hte tone of the writing. e.g., `if there is a better car for going effortlessly fast, I haven't driven it.'
Re the price difference, do you know if the RS 6 is going at MSRP. How do the options compare?
I have brand loyalty reasons for going for the MB --- though.
Re the price difference, do you know if the RS 6 is going at MSRP. How do the options compare?
I have brand loyalty reasons for going for the MB --- though.
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They rated RS6 higher for styling?????!!!!!!
Remember,RS6 is only this year,next year will be old news(new body style introduced)
Remember,RS6 is only this year,next year will be old news(new body style introduced)
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Originally posted by Pbglas
Even Millen's comments are conditional. But I was referring to hte tone of the writing. e.g., `if there is a better car for going effortlessly fast, I haven't driven it.'
Re the price difference, do you know if the RS 6 is going at MSRP. How do the options compare?
I have brand loyalty reasons for going for the MB --- though.
Even Millen's comments are conditional. But I was referring to hte tone of the writing. e.g., `if there is a better car for going effortlessly fast, I haven't driven it.'
Re the price difference, do you know if the RS 6 is going at MSRP. How do the options compare?
I have brand loyalty reasons for going for the MB --- though.
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