Thats it, WRECKLESS DRIVING??
06-08-2011, 07:24 AM
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I may not have paid for the car itself, but everything that breaks is on my dime, and you know how these cars are. And as for the 'not afraid to die' comment, thats not how it was supposed to sound. I meant to say that this car has enough power to kill me without any remorse. Besides, after my mom heard about the stink that went down, (I guess she didn't know the police showed up until my neighbor mentioned it) she took my license and keys, and now I am stuck with my feet until Monday, So there you go, another idiot off the streets for now.
06-08-2011, 07:29 AM
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Mom should keep those keys, sell that car, and get Son a nice AMG Sport Package V6 W211 E-Class (i.e, looks the same, but doesn't go the same).
I have nothing against young kids having nice looking cars (it would make me a HUGE hypocrite if I stood on my high horse now and said that I did), but I do against them having fast cars.
I have nothing against young kids having nice looking cars (it would make me a HUGE hypocrite if I stood on my high horse now and said that I did), but I do against them having fast cars.
06-08-2011, 10:20 AM
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Mom should keep those keys, sell that car, and get Son a nice AMG Sport Package V6 W211 E-Class (i.e, looks the same, but doesn't go the same).
I have nothing against young kids having nice looking cars (it would make me a HUGE hypocrite if I stood on my high horse now and said that I did), but I do against them having fast cars.
I have nothing against young kids having nice looking cars (it would make me a HUGE hypocrite if I stood on my high horse now and said that I did), but I do against them having fast cars.
06-08-2011, 10:25 AM
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It is not illegal to use your phone while driving, if using your handheld device to contact emergency services for an incident or to report aggressive driving/illegal activity.
06-08-2011, 11:46 AM
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After re-reading all this I really am shocked I thought I was the good guy in all of this. I almost feel as though not having my baby(E55) was an overnight sober-up. But I have been thinking you guys may be right, maybe I am a bit young/inexperienced to have an E55 this early into life. Lol I am actually thinking about buying a red convertible mustang, guy only wants just under $20 thousand, KBB is $23,000. 2007 mustang gt convertible with 48K on the clock, and has the optional shaker 1000 system.
06-08-2011, 12:09 PM
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Are you an attorney?
I'm not, but it doesn't seem this clear cut to me. If the person files a complaint, the police speak to the subject, who denies it, then it becomes a he said/she said case. Unless the complainant can find corroborating witnesses, there is really no evidence.
you say i'm speeding, I say I'm not. Without any further evidence, there is no clear guilty verdict.
I'm not, but it doesn't seem this clear cut to me. If the person files a complaint, the police speak to the subject, who denies it, then it becomes a he said/she said case. Unless the complainant can find corroborating witnesses, there is really no evidence.
you say i'm speeding, I say I'm not. Without any further evidence, there is no clear guilty verdict.
I have stated several times...I know first hand of people here in the State of Maryland who have been through this. Reckless operation of a motor vehicle---not for speeding. The police have to observe someone speeding in order to write that ticket. But, if a motorist dials 911 on someone who they say is reckless driving or creating a public danger the police will respond here in Maryland. Sometimes the police will issue summons to appear in court, other times they will issue a warning, and in many cases ignore it. However, I know several people personally who have had motorists call 911 on them (mostly sport bike riders) who have been dragged through the court system over it. It's 100% the facts. One person is not saying "you are speeding". They are saying that you are driving aggressively or dangerously---two different things !!!
It's up to the judge to decide. The judge makes the call. It is simply NOT true that the police have to eye-witness the event. Not true.
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06-08-2011, 12:15 PM
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I have represented no less than 3 matters which refer to these complaints, the only chance the police have in succeeding is if the complainant is called and appears to testify.
The first thing the judge will ask is where is the person making the complaint, if they are not present the judge will usually (and did in 2 circumstances) throw the case out.
Secondly, even if the person making the complaint appears, it will still depend on the account given and other circumstances as to whether the judge will impose a fine, from my experience none of them received any penalty but a warning.
As for your story about the police officer, I don't know what you mean by didn't end well for him, it is very unlikely this would ever happen in Australia.
The first thing the judge will ask is where is the person making the complaint, if they are not present the judge will usually (and did in 2 circumstances) throw the case out.
Secondly, even if the person making the complaint appears, it will still depend on the account given and other circumstances as to whether the judge will impose a fine, from my experience none of them received any penalty but a warning.
As for your story about the police officer, I don't know what you mean by didn't end well for him, it is very unlikely this would ever happen in Australia.
Not sure about specific ORC clauses, but many states have the following:
(1) An "assault" is an intentional, unlawful threat by word or act to do violence to the person of another, coupled with an apparent ability to do so, and doing some act which creates a well-founded fear in such other person that such violence is imminent.
(2) Whoever commits an assault shall be guilty of a misdemeanor of the second degree, punishable as provided in s. 775.082 or s. 775.083.
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06-08-2011, 12:27 PM
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NJ System
Here is what NJ uses:
The #77 Aggressive Driver System should be used to report aggressive or erratic driving that poses a risk to other motorists on the roadway. While these calls are important, 9-1-1 calls are prioritized over #77 calls as required by law. In #77 call response, police services are made aware of the report and respond according to availability and proximity to the incident, as well as, seriousness of the report. This system should not be used to report 9-1-1 emergencies.
Callers are reminded that when using either system, current wireless phone technology does not automatically provide calltakers with the information they need to provide appropriate response to the emergency. That's why it is important for all wireless users to remember to provide calltakers with the exact location of the incident (roadway, direction, milepost), type of emergency, description of those involved(vehicle registration, make, color), and a callback phone number.
As always, safety of the motorists is our first concern, so if you need to use the above services when driving, please pull over to a safe place, and then provide as much specific information as possible. The more detailed information you provide, the quicker we can help.
Thank you. Together, we can all help New Jersey's 9-1-1 & #77 systems help you.
The #77 Aggressive Driver System should be used to report aggressive or erratic driving that poses a risk to other motorists on the roadway. While these calls are important, 9-1-1 calls are prioritized over #77 calls as required by law. In #77 call response, police services are made aware of the report and respond according to availability and proximity to the incident, as well as, seriousness of the report. This system should not be used to report 9-1-1 emergencies.
Callers are reminded that when using either system, current wireless phone technology does not automatically provide calltakers with the information they need to provide appropriate response to the emergency. That's why it is important for all wireless users to remember to provide calltakers with the exact location of the incident (roadway, direction, milepost), type of emergency, description of those involved(vehicle registration, make, color), and a callback phone number.
As always, safety of the motorists is our first concern, so if you need to use the above services when driving, please pull over to a safe place, and then provide as much specific information as possible. The more detailed information you provide, the quicker we can help.
Thank you. Together, we can all help New Jersey's 9-1-1 & #77 systems help you.
06-08-2011, 12:28 PM
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Drive like an idiot, face the consequences of your actions.
What you described in your original post is unacceptable everywhere I've ever lived.
If you want spirited driving, do it on a track like you're supposed to [4 years of autocross, 6 years of Porsche club DEs and club races under my belt, FWIW]. If you can't afford to do track events, do it somewhere away from people so that if you fuck up, you can only hurt yourself.
You've already posted incriminating/indefensible stuff in this thread, and posting defensively will just make the grave you dug yourself deeper.
What you described in your original post is unacceptable everywhere I've ever lived.
If you want spirited driving, do it on a track like you're supposed to [4 years of autocross, 6 years of Porsche club DEs and club races under my belt, FWIW]. If you can't afford to do track events, do it somewhere away from people so that if you fuck up, you can only hurt yourself.
You've already posted incriminating/indefensible stuff in this thread, and posting defensively will just make the grave you dug yourself deeper.
06-08-2011, 12:33 PM
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06-08-2011, 12:54 PM
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So today, I was cruising around, and even did a few burnouts here or there. Then I was going about 40mph and there was a 90* turn coming up, but not too sharp, And i have safely taken it at 30 so i figured what the hell, and gave it a lill more gas. Took the turn at 42 mph, and car stayed planted firmly, just a little bit of squealing from the tires. anyways, Went home afterwards and about 20 minutes ago, A cop is knocking on my door. I figured he was only asking things door to door, because Why would he be here for speeding when the very corner I took was a 35 MPH zone about 100 feet after the bend. he then introduces himself, and then he asks me if I owned a black Mercedes Benz, And then proceeds to tell me (after I admitted to owning it and being a little naughty) that someone called in a complaint of wreckless driving, even got my plate #. He was very nice though, because thankfully after 10-15 minutes chatting and him running my name etc.. he decided to let me off with a warning to "kick off the summer". BUT: heres the thing, How is taking a corner fast considered wreckless? The only thing i was guilty of was speeding, and exhibition of speed, both of which were not brought up by him. Am I wrong to assume I was not being wreck less?
ok, I am glad I am not the only that feels like this is bull Sh.t.. There was only one car in sight and there were people cutting their lawn, so most likely the guy is his car, just a Kia. I will take pics of the corner too, almost HAVE to go out of the way to get to it. or maybe get a more complicated plate #... how hard is this to remember??
No, I don't do it normally, just on those days where theres a mustang revving up next to you and a parking lot full of girls doing a car wash...
But in reality I will learn not to do this when people are around. Not saying its okay to drive like, well, a moron, but we all have those moments, Don't We?
But in reality I will learn not to do this when people are around. Not saying its okay to drive like, well, a moron, but we all have those moments, Don't We?
I see where this is going, and I kind of had a feeling it would. Was it stupid, yes. Was it immature, well, yes. But who here can honestly tell me, that you wouldn't do the same thing at 17, behind the wheel of your first car with more than enough power to kill you. Yea, this did teach me a lesson, in some way. Not with legal matters, but with pure common sense. Like others have said, do it when the time is right and **** like this won't happen. Hell, save it for the track. And FWIW, the girls and the mustang reference was PURE SARCASM. Believe what you want, I know what happened, I was there.. So next time you would like to tell he how it went down, ask your self this, 'Was I there when this happened?' If no, then don't tell me what occurred besides what I shared in my previous posts.
I have been driving for more than two years, almost 3 in fact, as the big 18 is less than 3 months away. And I think I know how to react in a situation as it arises, and keep in mind I wasn't referring to a situation behind the wheel of the 55, thats what the computers are for. But until then, I will keep pushing my car when the time is right until it or I dies, whichever comes first. If it kills me, oh well, It'd be my fault anyways. But rest assured, I may not know what to do when the rear swings out at 50, but I do know what to do if a child does wander into the road.
You're not 18 yet. How can you ignore the wisdom of others and "continue pushing your car." The time ISN'T right. The sooner you recognize that you're not invincible the better. I've got a licensing exam in 2 weeks that requires me to know the breakdown of leading killers by age group. You want to know what it is?
Infants <1 - Congenital anomalies, Complications of short gestation, SIDS
1-14 - Injuries, cancer, congenital anomalies, homicide, heart dz
15-24 - Injuries, homicide, suicide [because you're *invincible*]
25-64 - Cancer, heart dz, injuries [physical and mental maturity...]
65+ - heart dz, cancer, stroke, COPD
Look, sorry to be some stranger on a forum that's got to act in loco parentis but you MUST recognize that you've got to, at the very least, learn from your mistakes. Otherwise, Darwin will get you.
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06-08-2011, 12:55 PM
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06-08-2011, 12:57 PM
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I also see that you like to play the drums. Perhaps going crazy on the drums would help you get out some of that energy, instead of lighting up the rear end on the street.
-black belt in internet...
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06-08-2011, 01:04 PM
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I have learned from my mistakes, and maybe this break from the 55 will teach me that next time I/bystanders/pedestrians might not be so lucky. So Maybe I will take BenzDocs advice and make a little group and have people in the same spot as me (car with too much power for them/their age) so we can all go to a track and have some legal/safe fun.
06-08-2011, 01:06 PM
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Lol, facebook tells you a lot about a teen. Yea, before I had the E55 I even had a little gas RC car that went 0-60 in 4.2 seconds, lmao its the E55s 1/10 mini me. But hey, maybe I should bust the ole rc car out and do some reckless driving.
06-08-2011, 01:07 PM
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I have learned from my mistakes, and maybe this break from the 55 will teach me that next time I/bystanders/pedestrians might not be so lucky. So Maybe I will take BenzDocs advice and make a little group and have people in the same spot as me (car with too much power for them/their age) so we can all go to a track and have some legal/safe fun.
FWIW, my senior year of college all my car friends and I paid to rent a track. One of which is a member here, actually. Perhaps you can find other people at your high school to do that as a graduation present to yourselves.
06-08-2011, 01:10 PM
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http s://ww w.facebook.com/profile.php?id=########
With the ######## being one of the strings of #'s separated by underscores in the file name of your photo.
If you ever find a picture of a hot car [or girl] on the internet embedded, and recognize the filename is generated by facebook...you now have the tools to figure out which profile it came from.
And thus, ends our next segment in internet safety
06-08-2011, 01:13 PM
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lmao, Ill have to try that some time. I figured my name was known because all you have to do is hover over the picture and "John_Cunningham" is right in the URL.
06-08-2011, 01:14 PM
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06-08-2011, 02:27 PM
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Why is this idiot still posting here? He's lied about buying the car, gives uninformed advice and now defends his actions that would have cost him his license if the cop witnessed his actions THAT HE'S ADMITTED TO.
Seriously 03'55AMG brings nothing to the table of any use in this forum
Seriously 03'55AMG brings nothing to the table of any use in this forum
06-08-2011, 02:46 PM
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No I am not. But I will say this again: Citizens are allowed to file written complaints against other motorists. It happens all the time. Many states encourage it. They do in NJ, MD, OH, and several other states.
I have stated several times...I know first hand of people here in the State of Maryland who have been through this. Reckless operation of a motor vehicle---not for speeding. The police have to observe someone speeding in order to write that ticket. But, if a motorist dials 911 on someone who they say is reckless driving or creating a public danger the police will respond here in Maryland. Sometimes the police will issue summons to appear in court, other times they will issue a warning, and in many cases ignore it. However, I know several people personally who have had motorists call 911 on them (mostly sport bike riders) who have been dragged through the court system over it. It's 100% the facts. One person is not saying "you are speeding". They are saying that you are driving aggressively or dangerously---two different things !!!
It's up to the judge to decide. The judge makes the call. It is simply NOT true that the police have to eye-witness the event. Not true.
I have stated several times...I know first hand of people here in the State of Maryland who have been through this. Reckless operation of a motor vehicle---not for speeding. The police have to observe someone speeding in order to write that ticket. But, if a motorist dials 911 on someone who they say is reckless driving or creating a public danger the police will respond here in Maryland. Sometimes the police will issue summons to appear in court, other times they will issue a warning, and in many cases ignore it. However, I know several people personally who have had motorists call 911 on them (mostly sport bike riders) who have been dragged through the court system over it. It's 100% the facts. One person is not saying "you are speeding". They are saying that you are driving aggressively or dangerously---two different things !!!
It's up to the judge to decide. The judge makes the call. It is simply NOT true that the police have to eye-witness the event. Not true.
But evidence happens to be important in a court of law. If complainant says person X was driving recklessly, and person X denies that he was driving recklessly, and complainant doesn't have corroborating witnesses, you have a typical he said/she said case, in which the burden of proof is on the complainant. In such a case, it is extremely rare that a judge would bring a guilty verdict.
