julian14

Hi guys, I have a question my 07 e63 is almost reaching 50k and been wanting to due a tranny fluid change. In my old e430 instead of doing a flush i did a complete 15qt fluid change by removing one of the lines that go to the radiator and would crank the car and expel 2 qt at a time and would replace it until the fluid came out nice and red at 15qt total/it completely remove all the old fluid from the torque converter/and most likely limited particles from going to area not needed unlike the flush machine use by stealerships. What do you guys think?? is it possible to do it to e63 or just pay the stealership to do the flush which probably would be 5-7 quart of tranny fluid change. oh i forgot the diff axle??

Jon2007E63P30

The only way to relace the fluid is through the drain tube.

The dealer drains the oil, pulls the pan, replaces the level tube which they broke off to drain the oil, changes the filter, replaces the gasket and non-re-useable screw/bolts. Then with a system that pumps the oil @30C back into the pan through the drain opening, they re-fill. They run the engine and tranny to ensure a 30C temp through the ODB2 port. Once at 30C, they open the drain plug and add if necessary or let overflow come out until it dripping slows. Then, close it up.

What you suggest might be possible if you had a way to force the oil into the drain opening. The hoses you mention are visible on the transmission.

Go here http://www.mercedestechstore.com/pdfs/index.htm
Look at 722.9 training material.

I would simply have the dealer do it every 40K. You are 10K late.

julian14

thanks for the response, so on e63 there is no dipstick tube/or filler tube??so you need a special tool to get the fluid back in??
so i should paid the dealership/but will never get all the old fluid out!!
that sucks!!
from my understanding the torque converter will contained alot of the old fluid.
the way i did it with the e430 work out well i wish i could do to e63

Jon2007E63P30

Read the docs in the link. No dipstick, no nothing.

I wil have the dealer simply service mine every 40k.

I know how you feel. I did my Volvo exactly the way you did your old E.

Yuille36

Mercedes are making it so, that you can't do it yourself anymore. And that you have to bring it in, to the stealership for servicing. ;(

Gus83

wow those links are very helpful thanks for posting them

Jon2007E63P30

To be honest, my E63 has been very DIY friendly. I have a sparkplug DIY writeup on here if you search. I think I also have a write up on the diff oil change (2007).

• Brake pads are easy: Fronts require a single socket wrench, drift pin (screw driver), and small hammer. As well as something to remove overflow from the brake fluid reserviour if you ever topped off. Rears don't need the wrench.
• Brake fluid change like any other car
• Oil change - like my 1970 MGB, but with an additional plastic panel, but without a oil filter mounted opening down
• Diff fluid change like any other car
• Cabin Air filter - no crawling under the dash... easy
• Brake disks - a little more difficult, mainly due to the size of the calipers. I will do a DIY some time this year.

The only thing I could have done myself I had the dealer do was service the pano roof. I could not find the proper information on how to do it. Anyone?

So the fact every 40K I need to spend $250 is not a huge deal. I do admit it is annoying not to be able to change it all out.

Gus83

What happen to your pano roof?

Jon2007E63P30

It reached the time period for regular maintenance. I would have done it if I had the instructions.

Shifter

I have found that the majority of 722.9 torque coverters have drain plugs in them. You could also request the tech to check/drain if possible.

Gus83

What kind of service you do to the roof? I'm clueless

Gus83

Im gonna try to find out from a tech exactly and I'm gonna do my own service

grane

Many MB dealers have not invested in the equipment necessary to circulate the fluid through the system.

Jon2007E63P30

Because MB does not recommend a flush for the 722.9 and has not designed it to allow it. Read the PDFs on the equipment they need.

julian14

Jon, thank again for the post/DIY i will be changing the oil myself this time around bought mobil 1 cheap
thanks again brother

julian14

oh by the way taking the car in for the tranny flush $380 the dealership is charging me

Gus83

at the dealer they told me $499 bc they flush the converter, but 380 sounds good.

hopefully i can do a nice write up once i do mine, ill post it up for everyone else.

Jon2007E63P30

Please do post. I am interested in what hoses they disconnect to do the flush. Also do they do the filter change first? Also, ask the dealers reasoning for doing something beyond what MB recommends.

Gus83

i will do a write up for sure man
well i doubt that anyone in my dealer will give me full detail but i will try to find some info and what do you mean with doing something beyond what MB recommends?

moosejaw

im about to do a tranny flush on mine

Gus83

i will too, but first i want to clear some stuff first with a tech, so i can go ahead and do it.

Jon2007E63P30

if you read the documents in the link I sent, there is no capability to flush the transmission. The only thing they train the dealerships to do is drain the pan, change the filter, and refill.

So if the dealer is finding a way to do a full flush, it is something they are doing on their own.

Boywonda

Dealer is trying to sell me a flush as well, but the PDF in the links says no recommended service?!?! They also told me they wanted to do Plugs, Air Filter (Im doing myself) and Brake Flush. Are they just trying to get in my wallet?

Jon2007E63P30

Your maintenance manual says
So that means no maintenance after that.. No way, I will be doing mine again at 80K.

Ask them how they perform the flush and ask them if they change the filter before or after the flush. To really flush it will take a minimum of 10qts and likely 12qts.

Plugs are changed at 60K or 5yr and are easy to do. See my DIY with pictures.
Brake flush is every 2 years, not mileage dependant, so you are due.

And yes, they ALWAYS are looking to get in your wallet.