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Old Sep 19, 2011 | 11:41 PM
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Price may be the mitigating factor. UGR's work is crazy expensive.
so true, which is why I'm waiting lol.
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Old Sep 20, 2011 | 12:28 AM
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Originally Posted by BenzoBoi
I'm wondering why anyone doesn't call UGR to see if they will make something? It seems everyone wants this to happen but no one is willing to use their car for it...or so it seems. I understand why this is taking so long as there would obviously be a limited market and I'm sure no one wants to drop their beast off at a shop for a few months. UGR did the GT40 TT and I'm totally guessin here but I would assume that it's somewhat similar...



Maybe I'm just crazy...
i think no one here has done it because UGR's prices start at $70,000 for a build and go up in excess of $130,000 from everything i have seen ... which makes sense to a guy that can afford an $100,000 used lambo as a second car/toy but not to most of us that DD our $30K-ish e55s
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Old Sep 20, 2011 | 12:32 AM
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side note though i have followed UGR for a while now and a UGR lambo gallardo is my ultimate dream car! when i have an EXTRA $80k for used lambo and another $70-$100K for UGRs kit laying around the bank, it will be top of my list of purchases but until then i have to dream
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Old Sep 20, 2011 | 12:58 AM
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Originally Posted by gaspam
i think no one here has done it because UGR's prices start at $70,000 for a build and go up in excess of $130,000 from everything i have seen ... which makes sense to a guy that can afford an $100,000 used lambo as a second car/toy but not to most of us that DD our $30K-ish e55s
Originally Posted by gaspam
side note though i have followed UGR for a while now and a UGR lambo gallardo is my ultimate dream car! when i have an EXTRA $80k for used lambo and another $70-$100K for UGRs kit laying around the bank, it will be top of my list of purchases but until then i have to dream
I know exactly what you're getting at. I just find it funny that some people expect so much. TT'ing a 55k is no easy task. Some people just want it because they want it, for a ridiculously low price and they want it now.

An Underground Racing Gallardo is also on my dream cars list. One day...

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Old Sep 20, 2011 | 01:52 AM
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Originally Posted by BenzoBoi
I know exactly what you're getting at. I just find it funny that some people expect so much. TT'ing a 55k is no easy task. Some people just want it because they want it, for a ridiculously low price and they want it now.

An Underground Racing Gallardo is also on my dream cars list. One day...
yep the TT thing on the cheap is not easy for sure or else we'd all be driving TT E55s now...

I think some members have the right idea in that what is probably more feasible is a bigger s/c .... something we could bolt in with a new tune and possibly new injectors
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Old Oct 29, 2011 | 05:59 PM
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id like to follow this as well ,

i put together a twin kit on my truck lsx motor based , and i had well over 10k after all was said and done , with a custom air to water intercooler , ported gt-35r turbos , all stainless hot side and aluminum cold side , tial 44mm wg's tial bov , it adds up very quick , 10k for a quality kit using bb turbos and ss piping is a decent deal . you really get what you pay for , turbo kits have alot of variables that can effect price .
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Old Oct 29, 2011 | 10:12 PM
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Originally Posted by gaspam
i think no one here has done it because UGR's prices start at $70,000 for a build and go up in excess of $130,000 from everything i have seen ... which makes sense to a guy that can afford an $100,000 used lambo as a second car/toy but not to most of us that DD our $30K-ish e55s
...ok, where do I start? The UGR tt system starts at 35K NOT 70K on stock engine 5psi boost and 650rwhp. It's helpful to be factual otherwise the discussion will be waste if time. Secondly realize that the E55 post 2003 already has FI, so internals will not need to be re-worked. But mire importantly, NO ONE, said they wanted a tt system for "cheap." If you or anyone claims that price us there issue,then do like UGR does and name your price for the different tt stages. Insinuatingthat those asking for tt on AMG secretly can't afford it, deflects from the real problem which is that there are no real tuners in the AMG aftermarket workd who so far are capable of developing a dependable tt system.

Recall that Kleemann s/c system for V8 engines that came out in 2001 was about $20K installed. People gobbled that up. It may be too late for an aftermarket tt system for AMG, since AMG now makes their own. Price has never been the bottleneck, competence has.

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Old Oct 29, 2011 | 11:03 PM
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...ok, where do I start? The UGR tt system starts at 35K NOT 70K on stock engine 5psi boost and 650rwhp. It's helpful to be factual otherwise the discussion will be waste if time. Secondly realize that the E55 post 2003 already has FI, so internals will not need to be re-worked. But mire importantly, NO ONE, said they wanted a tt system for "cheap." If you or anyone claims that price us there issue,then do like UGR does and name your price for the different tt stages. Insinuatingthat those asking for tt on AMG secretly can't afford it, deflects from the real problem which is that there are no real tuners in the AMG aftermarket workd who so far are capable of developing a dependable tt system.

Recall that Kleemann s/c system for V8 engines that came out in 2001 was about $20K installed. People gobbled that up. It may be too late for an aftermarket tt system for AMG, since AMG now makes their own. Price has never been the bottleneck, competence has.

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dude seriously you drive a 300ce u troll and oh ok stock internals on the e55 are for a FI car so i guess that means we can push a million HP right? just because a car is FI doesnt mean the internals are not already at there limits... and tha UGR kit at 35K is for the kit, not the 40hrs labor that it requires... please call them but wait..... you own a 300ce so why would you call them or care about TT kits for our cars other than to troll and put down the tuners that are actually making any products for our cars... is your PP that small?

and since you think all the MB tuners suck so bad, please, by all means grant us your infinite superior knowledge and show them whats up cool guy

until then your just talking out your A$$... peace TED troll (tt lol)

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Old Oct 29, 2011 | 11:38 PM
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Originally Posted by gaspam
dude seriously you drive a 300ce u troll and oh ok stock internals on the e55 are for a FI car so i guess that means we can push a million HP right? just because a car is FI doesnt mean the internals are not already at there limits... and tha UGR kit at 35K is for the kit, not the 40hrs labor that it requires... please call them but wait..... you own a 300ce so why would you call them or care about TT kits for our cars other than to troll and put down the tuners that are actually making any products for our cars... is your PP that small?

and since you think all the MB tuners suck so bad, please, by all means grant us your infinite superior knowledge and show them whats up cool guy

until then your just talking out your A$$... peace TED troll (tt lol)
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Old Oct 30, 2011 | 12:45 AM
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Originally Posted by gaspam
dude seriously you drive a 300ce u troll and oh ok stock internals on the e55 are for a FI car so i guess that means we can push a million HP right? just because a car is FI doesnt mean the internals are not already at there limits... and tha UGR kit at 35K is for the kit, not the 40hrs labor that it requires... please call them but wait..... you own a 300ce so why would you call them or care about TT kits for our cars other than to troll and put down the tuners that are actually making any products for our cars... is your PP that small?

and since you think all the MB tuners suck so bad, please, by all means grant us your infinite superior knowledge and show them whats up cool guy

until then your just talking out your A$$... peace TED troll (tt lol)
Dude, do your homework next time you call someone out. Ted Baldwin has vast knowledge with modding the M113. Also, his stable can outdo what you have listed any day of the week.
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Old Oct 30, 2011 | 12:55 AM
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Dude, do your homework next time you call someone out. Ted Baldwin has vast knowledge with modding the M113. Also, his stable can outdo what you have listed any day of the week.
then he should out-mod all the tuners on the MB board that he is calling incapable... until he does, he still just talking out his A$$ and talking Sh*t about the tuners we all rely on....

and ps, you dont know what is in my "stable" db so step off and go give your bf ted a massage

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Old Oct 30, 2011 | 01:07 AM
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Originally Posted by gaspam
then he should out-mod all the tuners on the MB board that he is calling incapable... until he does, he still just talking out his A$$ and talking Sh*t about the tuners we all rely on....

and ps, you dont know that is in my "stable" db so step off and go give your bf ted a massage
Sure thing, but weren't you the first one calling someone out about having a 300CE? Maybe you should search some of his posts, he has only been a member here since Dec. 2001. I suppose that makes him new to MBWorld and all the threads about modding our engines.

Why don't we have a TT setup on this engine that has been out since 2003?

Seems like you are more of a troll thus far.
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Old Oct 30, 2011 | 01:21 AM
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Originally Posted by abhatti55
Sure thing, but weren't you the first one calling someone out about having a 300CE? Maybe you should search some of his posts, he has only been a member here since Dec. 2001. I suppose that makes him new to MBWorld and all the threads about modding our engines.

Why don't we have a TT setup on this engine that has been out since 2003?

Seems like you are more of a troll thus far.
+1

Ted Baldwin has been around here way longer then most of us and has the knowledge with modding the M113 to back that up.
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Old Oct 30, 2011 | 01:24 AM
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Sure thing, but weren't you the first one calling someone out about having a 300CE? Maybe you should search some of his posts, he has only been a member here since Dec. 2001. I suppose that makes him new to MBWorld and all the threads about modding our engines.

Why don't we have a TT setup on this engine that has been out since 2003?

Seems like you are more of a troll thus far.
oh he's been here since 2001 wow he must be a master MB tuner then and so much better than the tuners he's calling out in the board then right ??

so he's been around since 2001 and he still hasnt come out with a TT setup for the E55 but he's calling all the tuners on here incapable.... ok that makes sense

and we dont have a TT setup because of demand... please go take an economics class before you ask that question again...

Also the delorian and ford model T and buick LaSabere have been around forever... how come we dont have a TT setup for that either?
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Old Oct 30, 2011 | 01:29 AM
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+1

Ted Baldwin has been around here way longer then most of us and has the knowledge with modding the M113 to back that up.
well his love for calling the tuners we have, "incapable" , and then him refering to UGR as proof that the tuners we have for our cars suck is just purely pathetic and if thats the character that you" +1" to then join his bandwagon and throw stones at our current tuners and see how fast they jump at request for new mods

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Old Oct 30, 2011 | 01:40 AM
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well his love for calling the tuners we have, "incapable" , and then him refering to UGR as proof that the tuners we have for our cars suck is just purely pathetic and if thats the character that you" +1" to then join his bandwagon and throw stones at our current tuners and see how fast they jump at request for new mods
Originally Posted by gaspam
dude seriously you drive a 300ce u troll

and since you think all the MB tuners suck so bad, please, by all means grant us your infinite superior knowledge and show them whats up cool guy

until then your just talking out your A$$... peace TED troll (tt lol)
It's not our responsibility to explain to every new punk as$ troll who we are, you should respectfully know who you are replying to.

And yeah, I'm so against new mods for the 55K..
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oh he's been here since 2001 wow he must be a master MB tuner then and so much better than the tuners he's calling out in the board then right ??

so he's been around since 2001 and he still hasnt come out with a TT setup for the E55 but he's calling all the tuners on here incapable.... ok that makes sense

and we dont have a TT setup because of demand... please go take an economics class before you ask that question again...

Also the delorian and ford model T and buick LaSabere have been around forever... how come we dont have a TT setup for that either?
He is a master MB tuner compared to what you have contributed to this board. Seems you have a handle on economics, possibly you could advice President Obama on how to get our country out of the recession.

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Old Oct 30, 2011 | 01:51 AM
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It's not our responsibility to explain to every new punk as$ troll who we are, you should respectfully know who you are replying to.

And yeah, I'm so against new mods for the 55K..
lol yeah ok godfather i should know you don corleone

last thing i would do is take the advise of someone that dropped 50k into a 25K car that still isnt running i know enough about your "epic" build
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It's not our responsibility to explain to every new punk as$ troll who we are, you should respectfully know who you are replying to.

And yeah, I'm so against new mods for the 55K..
+1

I hope we can get a response from Cylinder Head, he is quite the expert in dealing with trolls.
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He is a master MB tuner compared to what you have contributed to this board. Seems you have a handle on economics, possibly you could advice President Obama on how to get our country of the recession.
his contribution in this thread is to bad mouth our current tuners for our platform.. awesome

and no defer to someone else to help obama... i prefer to trade for myself and take my money back to brasil
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Old Oct 30, 2011 | 01:55 AM
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I hope we can get a response from Cylinder Head, he is quite the expert in dealing with trolls.
lol ok i am a troll for sticking up for EC and OE tuning against your BF ted's insults to them... ok yeah im the troll??
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lol yeah ok godfather i should know you don corleone

last thing i would do is take the advise of someone that dropped 50k into a 25K car that still isnt running i know enough about your "epic" build
It's funny how my $25K SL55 that's not running is still worth more than your E55 and yellow AUDI combined!!!!

Havoc's modding just shows how far he's willing to build the 55K. Unlike you, where's your mod list and TT kit?? That's what I thought boy!

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It's funny how my $25K SL55 that's not running is still worth more than your E55 AMG and yellow AUDI combined!!!!

Havoc's modding just shows how far he's willing to build the 55K. Unlike you, where's your mod list and TT kit?? That's what I though boy!
wow thats just stupid... please offer proof of your idiotic statement kid... you really cant do math.... please go learn about opportunity cost of capital and then come talk to me

and again, i dont have a TT kit cuz your BF ted keeps calling out all MB tuners and calling them "incapable" and running them off...

and my mod list on my audi would put you SL to shame, not to mention would own you on the street and all for under $18K including the price of the car

guess i am just a bit smarter with money than you don corleone but thats cool, you win don corleone
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all for under $18K including the price of the car
So you put $15K in a $3K car.. you are stupid!!

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guess i am just a bit smarter with money than you don corleone but thats cool, you win don corleone
No, you just have a lot less cash and net worth!!
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So you put $15K in a $3K car.. you are stupid!!



No, you just have a lot less cash and net worth!!
ok sure thing don corleone... you know everything about me including my net worth... your right im wrong, your god
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