Headers FINALLY installed
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Headers FINALLY installed
So after several months of deliberation, I pulled the trigger and slapped some headers on the beast.
I bought a used set of VRP's from a stand up guy who made me a deal I could not refuse. They looked beat up as as hell when I got them but after a nice sand blast and several coats of ceramic heat stuff, they were as good as new.
The install took just over 2 hours. When we fired her up there were two things I noticed. One was a bit more noise from the rear and the second was smoke from the engine!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A9mz6WevZH4
I guess the coating was doing it's thing. After about 5 minutes, the smoke stopped and we went for a drive. On the road they are great. The sound is a bit louder; or maybe throatier is a better word.
As far as performance, I must admit that while it was noticeable, it did not wow me like when we did the 180mm and tune. I have not been re-flashed for the headers so I did go easy on her but the difference is there. The throttle feels a bit more responsive and the lag I've felt before seems like it lessened.
The H/E goes on Tuesday as well as the tune. Then it's off to the dyno for some numbers.
All in all, I'm a happy guy. One thing however that kept sneaking up into my head as I was holding on for dear life was "This thing can go faster?!?!?"
I bought a used set of VRP's from a stand up guy who made me a deal I could not refuse. They looked beat up as as hell when I got them but after a nice sand blast and several coats of ceramic heat stuff, they were as good as new.
The install took just over 2 hours. When we fired her up there were two things I noticed. One was a bit more noise from the rear and the second was smoke from the engine!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A9mz6WevZH4
I guess the coating was doing it's thing. After about 5 minutes, the smoke stopped and we went for a drive. On the road they are great. The sound is a bit louder; or maybe throatier is a better word.
As far as performance, I must admit that while it was noticeable, it did not wow me like when we did the 180mm and tune. I have not been re-flashed for the headers so I did go easy on her but the difference is there. The throttle feels a bit more responsive and the lag I've felt before seems like it lessened.
The H/E goes on Tuesday as well as the tune. Then it's off to the dyno for some numbers.
All in all, I'm a happy guy. One thing however that kept sneaking up into my head as I was holding on for dear life was "This thing can go faster?!?!?"
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This is my first post...
I'm used to American muscle cars and exhaust...if that is the header, what does the factory piece look like? Sorry, but that looks nothing like a high flow piece to me. How much HP is to be gained from this?
I'm used to American muscle cars and exhaust...if that is the header, what does the factory piece look like? Sorry, but that looks nothing like a high flow piece to me. How much HP is to be gained from this?
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The actual labor, yes. There was also an hour of letting her cool down..
Thanks bro! Getting that TC sorted out this week for sure!
Yup yup.
Thanks bro, I wanted some fancy pants headers but now I'm completely satisfied with these. I also have an extra $2G's in my pocket that will help with the wedding!
You are right, it is not a super high flow piece. These are shorty, direct bolt on headers with no modification needed. As far as HP, who knows? After a tune I'd be happy with 20-25. People here have had more off shorties but nothing like some long tubes you see floating...
Yup yup.
You are right, it is not a super high flow piece. These are shorty, direct bolt on headers with no modification needed. As far as HP, who knows? After a tune I'd be happy with 20-25. People here have had more off shorties but nothing like some long tubes you see floating...
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Sorry, but those VRP logs are not shorty headers, but rather (HEM) high-performance exhaust manifolds.
These are shorty headers from evosport which are a direct bolt on short-header with no modification needed..
These are shorty headers from evosport which are a direct bolt on short-header with no modification needed..
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Ya and I've heard those evo headers are not much better in performance than the VRPs. Plus, you don't have to lift the motor to install vrps. Just for that reason alone I'd go VRP. Even if they are HEMs lol.
Vazha, we are neighbors basically. When are you gonna give me a ride in that beast? lol
Vazha, we are neighbors basically. When are you gonna give me a ride in that beast? lol
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None fast enough!
To the OP - congrats on taking the plunge and you should enjoy your car.
To SvtAmg - to clarify, there is a big difference between the performance of ours and a log header. Those log's were made first by us when Vadim worked with us, we found a substantial gain going to a true header. Further, it does not require lifting the motor to install our headers.
Thanks
Brad
To SvtAmg - to clarify, there is a big difference between the performance of ours and a log header. Those log's were made first by us when Vadim worked with us, we found a substantial gain going to a true header. Further, it does not require lifting the motor to install our headers.
Thanks
Brad
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To SvtAmg - to clarify, there is a big difference between the performance of ours and a log header. Those log's were made first by us with Vadim worked with us, we found a substantial gain going to a true header. Further, it does not require lifting the motor to install our headers.
Thanks
Brad
Thanks
Brad
So I guess now I will let you sell me some evo headers lol
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You are correct, but the oem ones are SO HORRIBLE that even a log style manifold such as the one pictured above will give substantial gains. It's kinda sad that amg decided on such a stupid exhaust manifold design from the factory.
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Ya and I've heard those evo headers are not much better in performance than the VRPs. Plus, you don't have to lift the motor to install vrps. Just for that reason alone I'd go VRP. Even if they are HEMs lol.
Vazha, we are neighbors basically. When are you gonna give me a ride in that beast? lol
Vazha, we are neighbors basically. When are you gonna give me a ride in that beast? lol
Your Evo's are very pretty on the eyes for sure but if I tell you what I paid for my HEM's you'd agree it would be foolish not to jump on them. Just curious, how much more power did you guys see in the two different designs? Yeah those OEM ones are not much smaller but the volume inside is considerably less then these..
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Anyone have pics of the stockers? I can't believe they are that bad...especially on a blower motor. Man, they must really choke the heck out of the motor. I'd imagine a nice longtube would show HUGE gains. Did Mercedes raid the parts bin and just put a normal manifold off of another model?
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Thanks brotha! Tell me something, where can I get my hands on some 840's??
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Great job on the HEMs. They look much better now than when they were brand new. I was never a fan of the black coating that VRP/Fadim used, which started to burn off after a few months anyway. I hope the sandblasting and recoating wasn't too costly. Congrats on getting hitched too!
