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Nope, no PM yet. I'm hoping to get this done as soon as I can, that way I don't get a blow out on the suspension. Now would not be good timing at all, for that to happen.
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KWs are more than just an extra couple hundred bucks...they're about a thousand bucks more than what I've seen a set of D2s sell for. I don't think your reasoning makes sense, since other companies also offer coilover applications designed specifically for certain MBs, although they don't offer a lifetime warranty. Personally, I don't plan to track or race with my setup, so the coilovers are mainly to add stability and peace of mind that I'm not going to get stuck in an airmatic blowout.
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I think what he was really saying is that the KW's are valved and sprung specific to the E55 & hopefully E63...I don't think anyone else would have that since it's never been an option, but I'm sure in light driving E350 shocks/springs could most likely last pretty well...It's not like that car is some featherweight...
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So there have been at least a few people that have got the list. Unless this is some top secret, illegal ****, why does nobody post it in here? How hard is it to copy and paste a list of parts?
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Serge (who did the research) did not opt to post openly. I think property are simply honoring that. Shot a pm or give him a call. I am certain he will be happy to send you the info
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I think what he was really saying is that the KW's are valved and sprung specific to the E55 & hopefully E63...I don't think anyone else would have that since it's never been an option, but I'm sure in light driving E350 shocks/springs could most likely last pretty well...It's not like that car is some featherweight...
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i need a coil conversion for a cl500 with abc suspension...serge are you up for the challenge if i ship my car to you?????
Serg, if you do this there will be several other ABC cars wanting done, you know that right ?
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i need a coil conversion for a cl500 with abc suspension...serge are you up for the challenge if i ship my car to you?????
Serg, if you do this there will be several other ABC cars wanting done, you know that right ?
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I have already completed a W230 conversion about 2 months ago. Cannot disclose any info because customer shipped car from the east coast and doesn't want any info out. I am working on a Cl65 coilover conversion in 1 month and will be pitting together a kit for all the ABC cars. Stay tuned. Serge
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I've never read through a thread so long with very little useful information. The first post by serge with pictures was interesting. The rest of it is just trying to get a parts list.
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I have already completed a W230 conversion about 2 months ago. Cannot disclose any info because customer shipped car from the east coast and doesn't want any info out. I am working on a Cl65 coilover conversion in 1 month and will be pitting together a kit for all the ABC cars. Stay tuned. Serge
https://mbworld.org/forums/cl-class-...ml#post4968032
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After several inquiries, I never received a response from Serge on the parts list. I decided to deduce from the initial photos posted, what factory parts were needed, in addition to your choice of coilovers. See my attachment for the part #s.
You're basically converting your airmatic to a stock non-airmatic W211. The parts can be verified using EPC. The highlighted parts are what are likely needed. From what I've read, programming of SDS is simply selecting the proper type of suspension being used.
I'm by no means an expert or have any first-hand experience on the conversion, but it would appear it's really not that difficult to perform. If someone can chime in on the SDS programming, that would help others out, rather than keeping everyone in the dark.
I'm still contemplating going this route, or waiting til March for when Arnott Industries is supposed to be releasing their W211 coilover conversion system that will not require any SDS programming, but will include a lifetime warranty on their components. Decisions, decisions.
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After several inquiries, I never received a response from Serge on the parts list. I decided to deduce from the initial photos posted, what factory parts were needed, in addition to your choice of coilovers. See my attachment for the part #s.
You're basically converting your airmatic to a stock non-airmatic W211. The parts can be verified using EPC. The highlighted parts are what are likely needed. From what I've read, programming of SDS is simply selecting the proper type of suspension being used.
I'm by no means an expert or have any first-hand experience on the conversion, but it would appear it's really not that difficult to perform. If someone can chime in on the SDS programming, that would help others out, rather than keeping everyone in the dark.
I'm still contemplating going this route, or waiting til March for when Arnott Industries is supposed to be releasing their W211 coilover conversion system that will not require any SDS programming, but will include a lifetime warranty on their components. Decisions, decisions.
After several inquiries, I never received a response from Serge on the parts list. I decided to deduce from the initial photos posted, what factory parts were needed, in addition to your choice of coilovers. See my attachment for the part #s.
You're basically converting your airmatic to a stock non-airmatic W211. The parts can be verified using EPC. The highlighted parts are what are likely needed. From what I've read, programming of SDS is simply selecting the proper type of suspension being used.
I'm by no means an expert or have any first-hand experience on the conversion, but it would appear it's really not that difficult to perform. If someone can chime in on the SDS programming, that would help others out, rather than keeping everyone in the dark.
I'm still contemplating going this route, or waiting til March for when Arnott Industries is supposed to be releasing their W211 coilover conversion system that will not require any SDS programming, but will include a lifetime warranty on their components. Decisions, decisions.
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that's all the info I have from Arnott. I had checked before with someone from Arnott, and they had indicated that it was coming out late 2011; a followup email changed their response to Mar 2012. They have a coilover system for W220 (S-class) so making one for the E-class shouldn't be difficult. The main difference between what Serge did and what Arnott is proposing is the use of a proprietary computer module to override the SDS warnings.
I'm just hoping my suspension will hold up til then.
I'm just hoping my suspension will hold up til then.
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Guys is it to difficult to change the suspension from Airmatic to Steel in Star?
You don't need a box to fool it or anything else, it's really simple
You don't need a box to fool it or anything else, it's really simple
#124
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I would guess that the purpose of Arnott's system is for the DIY mechanic who doesn't have SDS available at his disposal to make that simple change.