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01-29-2012, 11:43 PM
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All pm's have been replied. If I have missed anyone, please pm me again and I'll gladly send over the list. I cannot post prices due to not being a vendor. Serge
01-30-2012, 12:20 AM
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I didn't measure, but I know that Serge did when he was installing them into the black E55 in post #1.
Going by the photos (and obviously there may be a pound or two difference in my totals), here is what I came up with:
Each of the airmatic shocks and air spring assemblies weigh in at 19.5lbs and 16lbs. So that comes out to 71lbs. The two control that are replaced weigh in at 4.5lbs each and are replaced with ones that around 6.5lbs each. Then take into consideration that each KW coilover (with perch, etc) is around 13.5lbs and 14lbs, which is 55lbs. So 59lbs total installed
So...~12lbs total? Anyone else that has done this conversion, does this sound reasonable?
Going by the photos (and obviously there may be a pound or two difference in my totals), here is what I came up with:
Each of the airmatic shocks and air spring assemblies weigh in at 19.5lbs and 16lbs. So that comes out to 71lbs. The two control that are replaced weigh in at 4.5lbs each and are replaced with ones that around 6.5lbs each. Then take into consideration that each KW coilover (with perch, etc) is around 13.5lbs and 14lbs, which is 55lbs. So 59lbs total installed
So...~12lbs total? Anyone else that has done this conversion, does this sound reasonable?
02-14-2012, 01:04 PM
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02-14-2012, 01:15 PM
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Attached is the stock front axle parts list for 06 E55 vs 04 E500.I just slapped it all together for your review, but it looks like the steering knuckle is the only difference. Grimm did the install on an 05 E55, so the parts list should work for yours, as well as 03-06 W211.
Last edited by spinn; 02-14-2012 at 02:43 PM. Reason: updated e55 parts list
02-14-2012, 05:27 PM
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I didn't measure, but I know that Serge did when he was installing them into the black E55 in post #1.
Going by the photos (and obviously there may be a pound or two difference in my totals), here is what I came up with:
Each of the airmatic shocks and air spring assemblies weigh in at 19.5lbs and 16lbs. So that comes out to 71lbs. The two control that are replaced weigh in at 4.5lbs each and are replaced with ones that around 6.5lbs each. Then take into consideration that each KW coilover (with perch, etc) is around 13.5lbs and 14lbs, which is 55lbs. So 59lbs total installed
So...~12lbs total? Anyone else that has done this conversion, does this sound reasonable?
Going by the photos (and obviously there may be a pound or two difference in my totals), here is what I came up with:
Each of the airmatic shocks and air spring assemblies weigh in at 19.5lbs and 16lbs. So that comes out to 71lbs. The two control that are replaced weigh in at 4.5lbs each and are replaced with ones that around 6.5lbs each. Then take into consideration that each KW coilover (with perch, etc) is around 13.5lbs and 14lbs, which is 55lbs. So 59lbs total installed
So...~12lbs total? Anyone else that has done this conversion, does this sound reasonable?
wow that's not much at all, I remember BenzoBoi saying when he did it that the SAVINGS were close to 100 lbs and at the time I was shocked because that is an amazing weight saving but 12 lbs is next to nothing. Do you think maybe it could be more since you didn't actually weigh it? 
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03-02-2012, 09:08 AM
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'03 E55 Estate
Just checked back in on this thread. Thought I'd snap a quick pic of the car with the KW's installed (including one that one of the guys at AutoTalent that did the install took) and the car both aligned and balanced. May not be of much information but it might provide those an idea as to how "low" you would be able to go with this configuration (and this isn't all the way down)
Incidentally, I do not rub either.
Incidentally, I do not rub either.
Would you happen to have a picture of the rear coilover shock arrangement?
Thanks
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03-07-2012, 02:44 PM
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Just checked with Arnott Industries, and they have not even begun testing the coilover system for the W211. Still months away from anything. Looks like I'll be heading down this route when the time comes, rather than wait for Arnott.
03-07-2012, 03:40 PM
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Anyone has done the swap on a 2007+ E63 ?
spinn, can you post this for the 20076+ E550 vs E63, thanks
spinn, can you post this for the 20076+ E550 vs E63, thanks
Attached is the stock front axle parts list for 06 E55 vs 04 E500.I just slapped it all together for your review, but it looks like the steering knuckle is the only difference. Grimm did the install on an 05 E55, so the parts list should work for yours, as well as 03-06 W211.
03-07-2012, 05:08 PM
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Also curious if anyone's done this on a WAGON. I believe the estates all have self-leveling suspension? Wonder if that makes a diff? Or is that just controlled by star, so no diff?
03-07-2012, 05:43 PM
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Not trying to look a gift horse in the mouth... But:
Are there any other options for the struts? (Bilstein,JRZ, etc?). I am not familiar with KW struts....maybe they're great and I'm just out-of-touch with who makes premium parts these days?
Either way I'd be interested to know if there are other options to choose from.
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Are there any other options for the struts? (Bilstein,JRZ, etc?). I am not familiar with KW struts....maybe they're great and I'm just out-of-touch with who makes premium parts these days?
Either way I'd be interested to know if there are other options to choose from.
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03-07-2012, 05:52 PM
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Not trying to look a gift horse in the mouth... But:
Are there any other options for the struts? (Bilstein,JRZ, etc?). I am not familiar with KW struts....maybe they're great and I'm just out-of-touch with who makes premium parts these days?
Either way I'd be interested to know if there are other options to choose from.
-G
Are there any other options for the struts? (Bilstein,JRZ, etc?). I am not familiar with KW struts....maybe they're great and I'm just out-of-touch with who makes premium parts these days?
Either way I'd be interested to know if there are other options to choose from.
-G
03-07-2012, 06:01 PM
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Not trying to look a gift horse in the mouth... But:
Are there any other options for the struts? (Bilstein,JRZ, etc?). I am not familiar with KW struts....maybe they're great and I'm just out-of-touch with who makes premium parts these days?
Either way I'd be interested to know if there are other options to choose from.
-G
Are there any other options for the struts? (Bilstein,JRZ, etc?). I am not familiar with KW struts....maybe they're great and I'm just out-of-touch with who makes premium parts these days?
Either way I'd be interested to know if there are other options to choose from.
-G
03-07-2012, 06:10 PM
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Thanks Grant,
I don't know that company either... I guess what I'm asking is, who are the companies that provide struts for Mercedes-specific motorsports? For example, who's struts are on a Mercedes DTM-type car? It seems that they'd really have a lot of expertise on selecting the best damping rates, compression, rebound, etc.
Maybe I'm just over thinking this..... Wouldn't be the first time.
Ninja edit: thanks to the others for ideas and links to previous stuff I'd missed....
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I don't know that company either... I guess what I'm asking is, who are the companies that provide struts for Mercedes-specific motorsports? For example, who's struts are on a Mercedes DTM-type car? It seems that they'd really have a lot of expertise on selecting the best damping rates, compression, rebound, etc.
Maybe I'm just over thinking this..... Wouldn't be the first time.
Ninja edit: thanks to the others for ideas and links to previous stuff I'd missed....
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03-07-2012, 07:34 PM
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Thanks Grant,
I don't know that company either... I guess what I'm asking is, who are the companies that provide struts for Mercedes-specific motorsports? For example, who's struts are on a Mercedes DTM-type car? It seems that they'd really have a lot of expertise on selecting the best damping rates, compression, rebound, etc.
Maybe I'm just over thinking this..... Wouldn't be the first time.
Ninja edit: thanks to the others for ideas and links to previous stuff I'd missed....
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I don't know that company either... I guess what I'm asking is, who are the companies that provide struts for Mercedes-specific motorsports? For example, who's struts are on a Mercedes DTM-type car? It seems that they'd really have a lot of expertise on selecting the best damping rates, compression, rebound, etc.
Maybe I'm just over thinking this..... Wouldn't be the first time.
Ninja edit: thanks to the others for ideas and links to previous stuff I'd missed....
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Next time DTM comes on SPEED (hopefully we won't wait until October) look on the back of their overalls near the neck area you'll see their logo.
03-07-2012, 07:37 PM
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W3rd! Thanks Grant.... 
Gonna go study up on those D2s a bit more.
EDIT: Now hold on a minute...... Am I mistaken, or is the D2 sponsorship actually "D2 Vodaphone" (cell phone company)??
It might just be a coincidence that there is a shock company named "D2"....
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Gonna go study up on those D2s a bit more.
EDIT: Now hold on a minute...... Am I mistaken, or is the D2 sponsorship actually "D2 Vodaphone" (cell phone company)??
It might just be a coincidence that there is a shock company named "D2"....
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03-08-2012, 09:54 AM
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2004 E55 AMG
If I'm not mistaken both the CLK63 Black Series and SL65 Black Series have KW Coilovers from the factory.
http://www.kw-suspension.com/us/kw_history.php
I have had KW V2 on my E39 M5 and E46 M3 and was extremely pleased.
http://www.kw-suspension.com/us/kw_history.php
I have had KW V2 on my E39 M5 and E46 M3 and was extremely pleased.
03-08-2012, 07:24 PM
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If I'm not mistaken both the CLK63 Black Series and SL65 Black Series have KW Coilovers from the factory.
http://www.kw-suspension.com/us/kw_history.php
I have had KW V2 on my E39 M5 and E46 M3 and was extremely pleased.
http://www.kw-suspension.com/us/kw_history.php
I have had KW V2 on my E39 M5 and E46 M3 and was extremely pleased.
03-08-2012, 08:18 PM
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2005 E55, 2002 GT2
If I'm not mistaken both the CLK63 Black Series and SL65 Black Series have KW Coilovers from the factory.
http://www.kw-suspension.com/us/kw_history.php
I have had KW V2 on my E39 M5 and E46 M3 and was extremely pleased.
http://www.kw-suspension.com/us/kw_history.php
I have had KW V2 on my E39 M5 and E46 M3 and was extremely pleased.
