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Old Oct 9, 2011 | 10:18 AM
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Originally Posted by Oliverk
wow, no way. Because obviously mercedes designed the s500 to be a fast car.

Its a ****ing 4400lb luxury boat with 302bhp. Of course its slow. Its not intended to be fast jackass.

If i wanted an s-class that was faster than an E55, I would have just have gotten an S65.

my god people are dumb or just ignorant.
Good for you.

Really? An S500 wasn't intended to be fast? That's quite a shocker!!

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Old Oct 9, 2011 | 11:03 AM
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Originally Posted by _AMG_
Good for you.

Really? An S500 wasn't intended to be fast? That's quite a shocker!!
Are you implying that s500's are even remotely quick?
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Old Oct 9, 2011 | 11:06 AM
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BMW only changes the oil every 15,000 miles, but they expect you to do an oil change yourself in the middle at 7,500 miles.
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Old Oct 9, 2011 | 11:48 AM
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Originally Posted by Oliverk

Furthermore, it depends completely how the car is used (short trips, lots of idling, extreme temps) and the modifications, state of tune, etc on the engine (level of fuel dillution, poor filtration from cotton gauze filters, extra heat from engine oil fed turbo/supercharger, etc)

I agree. I am also under the impression that although the oil may last, the filter would break down much faster !!
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Old Oct 9, 2011 | 12:48 PM
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Originally Posted by Don Nguyen
BMW only changes the oil every 15,000 miles, but they expect you to do an oil change yourself in the middle at 7,500 miles.
What? Where do people come up with this stuff? So you're saying since that's not written anywhere you should just intuitively know that?
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Old Oct 9, 2011 | 01:00 PM
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Some of you people argue over the most ridiculous things; who cares what other people change their oil at, most of you will have your car turned-in, totaled, sold, traded, or even repossessed to even make a difference. I have yet to see a blown E55 motor due to lack of proper lubrication so ALL of you must be doing something right. LOL.
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Old Oct 9, 2011 | 01:43 PM
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Originally Posted by GT-ER
Are you implying that s500's are even remotely quick?
I'm being sarcastic.
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Old Oct 9, 2011 | 03:07 PM
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Also remember that MB recommended service intervals are based on non-modified components. I would hope that those that are pushing 100, 200hp and tq above OEM figures, are also modifying their service intervalls accordingly.

I know that I do.
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Old Oct 9, 2011 | 04:38 PM
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Originally Posted by _AMG_
Good for you.

Really? An S500 wasn't intended to be fast? That's quite a shocker!!
so you admit that your comparing it to the E55 for some unknown reason was asinine?

its about time.
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Old Oct 9, 2011 | 10:04 PM
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Originally Posted by Oliverk
so you admit that your comparing it to the E55 for some unknown reason was asinine?

its about time.
I see your sense to pickup sarcasm is pretty weak.
You think I would actually compare a S500 to a E55?!?
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Old Oct 9, 2011 | 10:12 PM
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Great thread with lots of valuable info, thanks guys.
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Old Oct 10, 2011 | 12:03 AM
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Originally Posted by amo1858
i work at a BMW & Mercedes Shop. The BMW's definatly cant go that long on oil changes. The Mercedes can. It may have to do with the oil that the brands recommend

Mercedes use Mobil 1

BMW... Not Mobil 1

the Bimmers that go 15k do sludge and lock upif you want "proof" take the valve cover off one that has 100k on it and has followed the service interval. Its trashed. the Benz is ok.
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People can change their oil every 50 miles if they want...but I can't stand it when people say that the factory recommendation is WRONG.

I've been told that I MUST change my oil every 3000 miles ( with synthetic no less ) or my engine will die. Maybe the shops are the ones that want to make more money and not the factory....hmmmmm....
GT-ER, Take the valve covers off a BMW with 100k miles that had oil changes every 15k miles, you will change your opinion quickly.
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Old Oct 10, 2011 | 12:16 AM
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Originally Posted by abhatti55
GT-ER, Take the valve covers off a BMW with 100k miles that had oil changes every 15k miles, you will change your opinion quickly.
Maybe you should read post #2 and #3 again....been there, done that. I have yet to see a SINGLE bmw that has had proper service ( i.e. using the right oils with the right filters and following the correct schedules ) have any oil related problems.

Again, using the right oils with the right filters and following the correct schedules...which few people do.

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Old Oct 10, 2011 | 12:26 AM
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My S55 AMG had 171,000 miles, and I changed the oil at around 6k to 8k miles or so, I never really let it get passed 10k. It ran perfectly and pulled nicely.

That said, always check your oil level. I had to always add oil. I have a new MK6 GTI that is tuned, and I had to add 2 quarts of oil in the first 5k miles. So check your oil!
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Old Oct 10, 2011 | 08:47 AM
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97k miles and still on the original oil from mb. Just add oil when needed.













Just joking. I buy oil by the bulk and change them when ever I feel like it. Usually way under 3k miles.
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Old Oct 10, 2011 | 08:58 AM
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No engine ever complained about having it's oil changed too often.
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Old Oct 10, 2011 | 09:01 AM
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Originally Posted by alextaylor29
No engine ever complained about having it's oil changed too often.
Then you should change it once a week.

Again, do what you all want...but it's completely unnecessary. I hope you guys maintain the rest of the vehicle the same way you maintain your oil...since it would be funny if you'd change the oil every 3,000 miles yet never change any other fluid such as brake fluid or transmission fluid.
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Old Oct 10, 2011 | 09:20 AM
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I pay Carmax $56 every 3k-6k miles to put in 9 quarts of Mobil 1 and a new filter and will continue to do so for as long as I have my car.

$56...I mean really? The fact that there is even a debate here is actually quite remarkable.
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Old Oct 10, 2011 | 09:41 AM
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Originally Posted by alextaylor29
I pay Carmax $56 every 3k-6k miles to put in 9 quarts of Mobil 1 and a new filter and will continue to do so for as long as I have my car.

$56...I mean really? The fact that there is even a debate here is actually quite remarkable.
$56? That's INSANE!!! Are you sure they even put Mobil 1....LOL. I purchase Mobil 1 myself and do the oil change myself and I spend about $95 with the filter included.

Regardless, you can spend $1....and it's not the point of this whole conversation.
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Old Oct 10, 2011 | 10:15 AM
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Originally Posted by alextaylor29
I pay Carmax $56 every 3k-6k miles to put in 9 quarts of Mobil 1 and a new filter and will continue to do so for as long as I have my car.

$56...I mean really? The fact that there is even a debate here is actually quite remarkable.
I find this VERY hard to believe.

The filter is about $13 at cost. Mobil 1 at cost is about $4 per quart.

You are saying that they only charge $7 for labor AND give you parts/oil at cost?

If so, thats a great way for them to lose a bunch of cash.


Also, there have been rumblings that changing oil too early also has downsides.
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Old Oct 10, 2011 | 03:03 PM
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Originally Posted by alextaylor29
I pay Carmax $56 every 3k-6k miles to put in 9 quarts of Mobil 1 and a new filter and will continue to do so for as long as I have my car.

$56...I mean really? The fact that there is even a debate here is actually quite remarkable.
How can they charge you $56 for everything, if 9 quarts of mobil 1 alone is $80?
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Old Oct 10, 2011 | 03:39 PM
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$ 56 is possible, but they would have to hound you over other service items.
https://mbworld.org/forums/w211-amg/...ighlight=Mobil
Filter, paper @ $8.00 Fleece @ $18.00
So for the 3000 mile change guys use the paper, and for the 10,000 mile guys use the fleece filter.

when can we
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Old Oct 10, 2011 | 03:47 PM
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Originally Posted by _AMG_
How can they charge you $56 for everything, if 9 quarts of mobil 1 alone is $80?
That would be on the high end and full if not more than retail. This oil goes on sale at times under $5.00 a qt which would place Jobber a bit less than that. I am sure CarMax buys in bulk and saves further. Adds up. I would not be surprised if their cost in bulk is around $3.00 or so a qt. $3 x9-$27.00 +filter. Still a bit of margin.
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Old Oct 10, 2011 | 03:57 PM
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Originally Posted by Yacht Master
$ 56 is possible, but they would have to hound you over other service items.
https://mbworld.org/forums/w211-amg/...ighlight=Mobil
Filter, paper @ $8.00 Fleece @ $18.00
So for the 3000 mile change guys use the paper, and for the 10,000 mile guys use the fleece filter.

when can we
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LOL, good one.
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Old Oct 10, 2011 | 04:59 PM
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That would be on the high end and full if not more than retail. This oil goes on sale at times under $5.00 a qt which would place Jobber a bit less than that. I am sure CarMax buys in bulk and saves further. Adds up. I would not be surprised if their cost in bulk is around $3.00 or so a qt. $3 x9-$27.00 +filter. Still a bit of margin.
That makes more sense.
Everywhere I go Mobil 1 0W-40 is $9 per quart.
I need to shop around more for these $5 deals.
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