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Old 10-10-2011, 05:50 PM
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$ 56 is possible, but they would have to hound you over other service items.
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Filter, paper @ $8.00 Fleece @ $18.00
So for the 3000 mile change guys use the paper, and for the 10,000 mile guys use the fleece filter.

when can we
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Seriously, this thread is a joke.
Old 10-11-2011, 04:25 AM
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Dealer insists on an oil change every 3k miles which I think is unduly conservative. Following my service indicator instead and running at just over double that. I think the dealers are doing this to boost their incomes. I know oil change intervals have a lot to do with the cumulative volume of fuel burned by the engine and believe the modern ECU can monitor this quite well. Also, modern synthetic oils can cope quite comfortably with normal levels of water ingress ( thro condensation etc.) and oxidation. *So I've no doubt the oil would be good for well beyond the service indicator level. I wouldn't however exceed that because other considerations re filters et al begin to come in.

BTW the viscosity of the oil can't be measured with meaningful accuracy by feeling it between the fingers.
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Old 10-11-2011, 09:17 AM
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Living in FL would 0w40 still be ok or bump it to 5 or 10w40??
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Sure, change your oil whenever you like...

It's YOUR car...

However, when I come over to look at it to buy it, and possibly make it MY car, as soon as I look at the service records, well... if you don't have solid documentation of the oil changes (and everything else), you can keep the oil burner and sell it to someone else.

AND it's even better if I can verify all this with the selling or servicing dealer. I don't mind paying a little more for an over-maintained pre-owned car.

For a car that's been neglected, I would not take it for free. (nothing is free... there's maintenance and insurance and taxes and plates and...)
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Originally Posted by HighEndOne
It's YOUR car...

However, when I come over to look at it to buy it, and possibly make it MY car, as soon as I look at the service records, well... if you don't have solid documentation of the oil changes (and everything else), you can keep the oil burner and sell it to someone else.

AND it's even better if I can verify all this with the selling or servicing dealer. I don't mind paying a little more for an over-maintained pre-owned car.

For a car that's been neglected, I would not take it for free. (nothing is free... there's maintenance and insurance and taxes and plates and...)
congratulations. If you were the only buyer out there, that would be a serious problem. But since you aren't, I don't think anybody is too concerned.
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Many of the greatest parts of these lubricants are no longer allowed to be used in all 50 states. There are plenty of lubricants that are not legal for sale in all 50 states and that has to make you wonder.
This is VERY true. I run "off road only" oil in some of my vehicles that are high in certain things that have been outlawed in regular motor oil because they supposedly reduce the efficiency of catalytic converters over time. Brad Penn and Joe Gibbs Racing make some nice high end "off road use only" oils. Today's oils are FAR weaker at preventing mechanical wear and tear. The last few years have seen big changes in automotive oils. I'll spend the extra $ on oil that does what its supposed to. Laws be damned.

Google up ZDDP. Learn what it is, why its not in oil anymore, and why that is a problem in high performance engines.

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On E63. Why did Amg go from 0-40 to 5-40?
Does this have to do with lifter noise
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Maybe so...

Originally Posted by Oliverk
congratulations. If you were the only buyer out there, that would be a serious problem. But since you aren't, I don't think anybody is too concerned.
Right, I am not the only buyer... What's that quote? "You pay your money and you take your choice..."

But then again, the uneducated or ignorant ones will buy that oil burner and likely have problems. Then the blame goes on the car, when really it was the PO's lack of maintenance that was at fault.

The spiral goes downward from there, dragging the precieved reliability, and resale values of that model down...

Not good for the current owners... But possiblly great for me when I can cherry pick the right pre-owned car at a depressed price!
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what kind of weight are you guys using on your e55's?? 0w40, 5w40 or 10w40
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On E63. Why did Amg go from 0-40 to 5-40?
Does this have to do with lifter noise
There are different opinions, but it seems like the the 5-40 has less phosphorus in it which keeps the catalytic converter from failing.
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There are different opinions, but it seems like the the 5-40 has less phosphorus in it which keeps the catalytic converter from failing.
We have had this discussion a few years ago, so let me make this Crystal clear for everyone.

"ALL oils sold in the United states for HIGHWAY use must now to conform to Government standards that it will not affect emission related equipment."

Now in a nut shell this means they ALL have less phosphorus in them. aka our engines WILL wear faster.

YES OFF highway oils are still allowed to have higher amounts in them.

It really is a shame that the government did this, but too many auto manufactures were complaining about having to replace catalytic converters under the extended warranty.

Such is life in the US now.

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