Going TWINCHARGED for the new build!
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Skratch, I dont want a just blower car or Turbo car. Twincharged will give the all around performance I prefer. I feel it it much more diverse set up. It is an easy kit to build, thus changing to the new shorter headers.
The big 1200 plus Turbo cars are not consistent in all forms of racing, from what I see. The 1200-1500 hp roll racers here in Houston that have Turbos have to do to many things to make it all click. The Twincharged Cars rule in all around racing. IMO. I am such a twin screw S/C fan, that I just dont want to part with it.
This set up will have to be controlled by a stand alone. I want to run on 85 and pump gas, so again Stand alone will help. With all the broken motors out there, it is the safest insurance I can think of.. I dontated two broken motors now and that is for this car.
There is plenty of room for more intercooling the Turbo charge air. The air is further cooled going through the blower, if that brick can handle the boost.
Another nice thing, is that I will most likley under-drive the Supercharger with this set up. Maybe 8 PSI and 8 PSI on the turbos. 8PSI SC and 8Turbo is more like 22PSI combined boost. 8+8 does not =16 when combined. Those detials will be worked out closer to GAME time.
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Another nice thing, is that I will most likley under-drive the Supercharger with this set up. Maybe 8 PSI and 8 PSI on the turbos. 8PSI SC and 8Turbo is more like 22PSI combined boost. 8+8 does not =16 when combined. Those detials will be worked out closer to GAME time.
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Game changer. Can't wait to see the progress unfold which stand alone are you thinking about using? I've tuned with with great results using Motec, Haltech, and AEM just curious how its gonna intergrate with the Benz hardware. Best of luck on this project brotha!
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I thought a couple of car magazines tested the E63 though and I read somewhere that it does a combined 28.8mpg, I assumed due to a car magazine and not Mercedes saying it that it's correct. I mean they did praise this new engine as more economic than the predecessor. In city driving I struggle to get 13-14mpg in my 55
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as i said its already been done on a benz motor. no need to go standalone and they have logged 30 psi so far and still refining. buckhead imports in atl.
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To each his own. Just because its been done before doesn't mean there's no room for improvement. I'm sure exotics goal isn't just to get the twincharged setup working, but to advance and improve on the work already done by others.
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im a small twin turbo setup works great , from my experience on my other project truck , a twin gt-35 with large 1.06 exhaust hosusings spools very quick and makes big end power to boot , although its a 7.0 l engine compared to our 5.5.l the smaller turbos help getting it going off the line and being its awd , its a dam rocket .
id say some twin gt-30's with some mod sized exhaust housings would get 1000 rwhp on high boost pretty easily.
ive had everything on my truck from root, centri and now and the best bang is turbos ( a single can be great for drag although the twins is more for wow factor and low end as well ) i enjoy driving it on the street and pulling on exotics on the top end in a 6k lb pickup truck with 22's. lol
either way , setting up a twin turbo/supercharged setup is alot of work , that needs to be well thought out and put together. as well as tuning , if you can have it setup to use the bypass on the blower and clutch pulley on the blower i think your definatly on to something . though the s/c delete and twin turbos would be easier imo and make the same if not more top end power would also work .
id say some twin gt-30's with some mod sized exhaust housings would get 1000 rwhp on high boost pretty easily.
ive had everything on my truck from root, centri and now and the best bang is turbos ( a single can be great for drag although the twins is more for wow factor and low end as well ) i enjoy driving it on the street and pulling on exotics on the top end in a 6k lb pickup truck with 22's. lol
either way , setting up a twin turbo/supercharged setup is alot of work , that needs to be well thought out and put together. as well as tuning , if you can have it setup to use the bypass on the blower and clutch pulley on the blower i think your definatly on to something . though the s/c delete and twin turbos would be easier imo and make the same if not more top end power would also work .
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Kudos for taking it to a whole nother level. I can remember not long ago reading on this forum and the general concensus was to stay conservative and the proposed mods (stage 1, 2, 3, 4) renntech stuff was all there was. Now we got discussions about upgraded blowers, fuels systems, TT setups, and now even a twin-charger. With the 55k AMG platform now becoming "affordable" a whole new crowd of buyers will step and and push the limit like exotic. Now if some of these board member tuners will actually put some serious R&D into some of these projects there should be enough interest for someone to make good money selling a system. If there was a TT setup available right now I'd be doing it. Excellent job exotic!
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Kudos for taking it to a whole nother level. I can remember not long ago reading on this forum and the general concensus was to stay conservative and the proposed mods (stage 1, 2, 3, 4) renntech stuff was all there was. Now we got discussions about upgraded blowers, fuels systems, TT setups, and now even a twin-charger. With the 55k AMG platform now becoming "affordable" a whole new crowd of buyers will step and and push the limit like exotic. Now if some of these board member tuners will actually put some serious R&D into some of these projects there should be enough interest for someone to make good money selling a system. If there was a TT setup available right now I'd be doing it. Excellent job exotic!
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i think you missed my point. theres no need to go stand alone . b/i is tuneing the 3.2 s/c engine with a turbo pushing it as we speak. so far 30 psi boost and still making more. theres always room for improvement and im sure they would be a valuable asset
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I have made good progress on my motor build, so if they can fix block and make pistons quick, I will be back racing soon. Putting engine back in and then get everything running great! Then work on turbo set up..
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Lol, disreguard all the thread jumping, bank robbers and thier kindegarten gangs..
Motor is being balanced right now , as the SLR forged pistons were waaaay lighter than stock. Rings are being file fit as well and then will put motor in put new motor in ASAP.
Now the new speedvision giant whipple, would go reasl well with twizies!
Motor is being balanced right now , as the SLR forged pistons were waaaay lighter than stock. Rings are being file fit as well and then will put motor in put new motor in ASAP.
Now the new speedvision giant whipple, would go reasl well with twizies!
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CL55 UPD Cold Air Boost kit, UPD 3000 stall converter, UPD 77mm SC clutched pulley and beltwrap kit, Custom long tubes, UPD crank pulley , UPD suspension kit, UPD SC pulley, Aux. HE, Trunk tank w/rule 2000 pump, Mezeire pump, UPD 5pc idler set, Aluminum rotor hats.
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CL55 UPD Cold Air Boost kit, UPD 3000 stall converter, UPD 77mm SC clutched pulley and beltwrap kit, Custom long tubes, UPD crank pulley , UPD suspension kit, UPD SC pulley, Aux. HE, Trunk tank w/rule 2000 pump, Mezeire pump, UPD 5pc idler set, Aluminum rotor hats.
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Lol, disreguard all the thread jumping, bank robbers and thier kindegarten gangs..
Motor is being balanced right now , as the SLR forged pistons were waaaay lighter than stock. Rings are being file fit as well and then will put motor in put new motor in ASAP.
Now the new speedvision giant whipple, would go reasl well with twizies!
Motor is being balanced right now , as the SLR forged pistons were waaaay lighter than stock. Rings are being file fit as well and then will put motor in put new motor in ASAP.
Now the new speedvision giant whipple, would go reasl well with twizies!
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Why not just go with the twins and kick the blower to the curb? Twins would be a much more efficient way of producing power. The blower would just heat up the incoming air. Big no no....
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Turbo's are the best...I can spool my Billet wheel double bearing going down my driveway in the GN The technology in the turbo's now is ridiculous, they start spooling off idle almost.
Mounting a big front-mount air intercooler is the challenge I see with our cars.
I'm doing that w/ my '87 No bottle, 1 turbo.
Mounting a big front-mount air intercooler is the challenge I see with our cars.
The customer was still not satisfied as he wants a full weight 9 second street car, so they added nitrous to the twin setup
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