URGENT: NHTSA Opens investigation into fuel leaks on the E55.
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Sold the E55 today actually called a good friend and made him a deal he couldnt refuse. He knows about the tank issues and is an excellent tech. It will just be a nice summer putz around vehicle for him. I already have the Jerry tune so all thats needed for now is a pulley and update on software. Its going to a good home.
Keep blasting Facebook! So long MBUSA, may the force be with you. Keep pissing off OE owners and cpo owners for a few more years and good luck selling cars.
I now own another Audi and the first two letters are RS. Funny really, two RS's and a S6.
Keep blasting Facebook! So long MBUSA, may the force be with you. Keep pissing off OE owners and cpo owners for a few more years and good luck selling cars.
I now own another Audi and the first two letters are RS. Funny really, two RS's and a S6.
I feel for ya Luk. I have been blasting MB for over 4 years with regards to this matter. I also posted those pics above of my personal car simply showing how fuel gets into the cabin.
I find it interesting that
1. MB is getting by with this coverup by saying its impossible for fuel to leak in the vehicle. Complete BS
2. MB is telling NHTSA that its the dealers fault that leaks are appearing because the dealers are not following proper repair procedures. More BS
3. MB is telling NHTSA that there is no problem because we dont have any warranty claims. Well duh you tell your AMG owners to pound sand so that you dont have to show a claim. The BS is getting even deeper
Luk, let me ask you this. Do you feel safe in your car? Are you ready to take action on Facebook and other social media? Do you really think that its the local dealers fault that cracks develop in these sensors and its faulty dealer service?
Mother of God people! This is complete BS. Where the hell is NHTSA? Is the lead engineer of NHTSA driving a AMG loaner or something?
And finally, Luk unless your ready to pay the 6k today. Take lots of pictures, video any any evidence of your situation. Take out the back seat and soaked insulation. Keep the gas tank under 3/4 tank. Let the seat air out for a couple of weeks and apply chemicals to get the smell out. I think its baking soda or something. Get hold of GregMB on this forum as he is in touch with NHTSA engineer. Send all your pics to NHTSA.
Never ever fill your car past 3/4 and enjoy it for what it is.
I took these today showing my current ride height for another thread. I love driving the car but its days may be doomed. Wife asked again last night when she get the S8.
I find it interesting that
1. MB is getting by with this coverup by saying its impossible for fuel to leak in the vehicle. Complete BS
2. MB is telling NHTSA that its the dealers fault that leaks are appearing because the dealers are not following proper repair procedures. More BS
3. MB is telling NHTSA that there is no problem because we dont have any warranty claims. Well duh you tell your AMG owners to pound sand so that you dont have to show a claim. The BS is getting even deeper
Luk, let me ask you this. Do you feel safe in your car? Are you ready to take action on Facebook and other social media? Do you really think that its the local dealers fault that cracks develop in these sensors and its faulty dealer service?
Mother of God people! This is complete BS. Where the hell is NHTSA? Is the lead engineer of NHTSA driving a AMG loaner or something?
And finally, Luk unless your ready to pay the 6k today. Take lots of pictures, video any any evidence of your situation. Take out the back seat and soaked insulation. Keep the gas tank under 3/4 tank. Let the seat air out for a couple of weeks and apply chemicals to get the smell out. I think its baking soda or something. Get hold of GregMB on this forum as he is in touch with NHTSA engineer. Send all your pics to NHTSA.
Never ever fill your car past 3/4 and enjoy it for what it is.
I took these today showing my current ride height for another thread. I love driving the car but its days may be doomed. Wife asked again last night when she get the S8.
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I just got a phone call from the NHTSA about the fuel leak issue I reported. They are actually doing some checking with consumers so this has got to be good news for all of us who spent thousands, not to mention taking a risk driving with fumes.
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Not sure if anyone has looked at the response MB gave to them not too long ago. It doesn't look like they are going to do anything about it unless forced to. From my reading, although lengthy, it sounds like they are saying they did their voluntary recall when there were complaints for the fuel issue and very few people still had an issue which had been later resolved.
http://www-odi.nhtsa.dot.gov/acms/cs...001-51102P.pdf
http://www-odi.nhtsa.dot.gov/acms/cs...001-51102P.pdf
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I'm sure with MBUSA trying to ignore the problem even when NHTSA asked about it they will have to build a very strong case to force MBUSA's arm to spend the money to fix this. If they goof it up we may all get screwed so perhaps they are just getting all their ducks in a row so they can't brush this off again? I have faith in the system, I just know it's very slow. Once things get going though we may get repairs fairly quickly. I don't see how they'd be able to get away with this at this point.
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I will always have a soft spot for the ol E55. A great AMG driveline. That said, MBUSA is another story. What a bunch of idiots to treat the AMG owners in this manner. I hope a fix comes to this problem as a good friend now owns the car. But let me tell everyone alittle story.
Audi has had a slight problem with fuel tanks on the C5 chassis. This includes the old Allroad, some S6 models and the RS6 chassis. Audi issued a recall to help prevent any gas tank leaks but in the event of any gas tank leak in a RS6 for no matter how old, numbers of owners or mileage....Audi will replace the entire fuel tank no questions asked. None, zero nada cost to the 1st, 2nd, 3rd, 4th, 5th and so on owner. No matter how many miles on the RS6. 100k? no problem, 150k? no problem.
Replace the tank on a 9yr old RS6 with 158k miles? Yep, no questions asked at zero cost to the owner.
Comeone MBUSA get yer s@#t together. Just fix the ones that leak and call it good.
Audi has had a slight problem with fuel tanks on the C5 chassis. This includes the old Allroad, some S6 models and the RS6 chassis. Audi issued a recall to help prevent any gas tank leaks but in the event of any gas tank leak in a RS6 for no matter how old, numbers of owners or mileage....Audi will replace the entire fuel tank no questions asked. None, zero nada cost to the 1st, 2nd, 3rd, 4th, 5th and so on owner. No matter how many miles on the RS6. 100k? no problem, 150k? no problem.
Replace the tank on a 9yr old RS6 with 158k miles? Yep, no questions asked at zero cost to the owner.
Comeone MBUSA get yer s@#t together. Just fix the ones that leak and call it good.
I'm sure with MBUSA trying to ignore the problem even when NHTSA asked about it they will have to build a very strong case to force MBUSA's arm to spend the money to fix this. If they goof it up we may all get screwed so perhaps they are just getting all their ducks in a row so they can't brush this off again? I have faith in the system, I just know it's very slow. Once things get going though we may get repairs fairly quickly. I don't see how they'd be able to get away with this at this point.
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In addition to blasting MB on Facebook.
Go to the AMG Youtube channel and start blasting some of the new AMG commercials. I really doubt they could keep up with deleting all the negative comments on that media.
Blast Youtube AMG channel.
Go to the AMG Youtube channel and start blasting some of the new AMG commercials. I really doubt they could keep up with deleting all the negative comments on that media.
Blast Youtube AMG channel.
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Not sure if anyone has looked at the response MB gave to them not too long ago. It doesn't look like they are going to do anything about it unless forced to. From my reading, although lengthy, it sounds like they are saying they did their voluntary recall when there were complaints for the fuel issue and very few people still had an issue which had been later resolved.
http://www-odi.nhtsa.dot.gov/acms/cs...001-51102P.pdf
http://www-odi.nhtsa.dot.gov/acms/cs...001-51102P.pdf
IMHO, the "smoking gun" for this whole issue is hidden in the redacted information from MBUSA provided to NHTSA for "Request #10"....
This is the specific request where NHTSA requires MBUSA to provide a list of all replacement parts (and quantities) purchased by MB dealers nationwide to address fuel leak complaints. You can bet that there are countless fuel pumps / senders and complete fuel tanks in that redacted list......
This is where that photo of the "pile of replacement fuel tanks" at the dealers would be revealed, and statistically speaking if you were to look at how many fuel-system related parts have been ordered and installed vs any other general population of MBZ vehicles out there..... the E55 would be many standard-deviations away from that "normal" replacement quantity.
I know I've been slacking lately on updating the list and posting it here. There are a few new guys that I need to add, since the last update so I'll try to get that done either later today or tomorrow before the holiday break. Anyone who has recently submitted a claim to NHTSA please send me a PM with your ODI# / Model and Year and I will make sure you get added to the list before I post it up.
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OK, just about finished updating the list (since 11/27). Checked my PMs and all posts in this thread since the last update.
The following people owe me some information:
Duncan1500 <- Need your ODI#
LukE552003 <- Need your ODI#
Bully MedicE55 <- Need your ODI# and which model year for E55
BBBSS <- Did you file already? I can't belive I don't have you on my list yet?
E55AMGGG04 <- Need your ODI# and which model year for E55
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The following people owe me some information:
Duncan1500 <- Need your ODI#
LukE552003 <- Need your ODI#
Bully MedicE55 <- Need your ODI# and which model year for E55
BBBSS <- Did you file already? I can't belive I don't have you on my list yet?
E55AMGGG04 <- Need your ODI# and which model year for E55
-G
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Haha you took me off the list once already. I don't have a leak but know it'll happen eventually so I'm here to help encourage others to file if they haven't and keep up on what's going on with this. Also I'm bored at work with internet access sometimes so when someone new pops up I'll try to fill them in on what's going on.
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oh look another fuel sender recall but its not Mercedes..
http://www.autoblog.com/2012/12/29/s...lty-fuel-pump/
http://www.autoblog.com/2012/12/29/s...lty-fuel-pump/
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oh look another fuel sender recall but its not Mercedes..
http://www.autoblog.com/2012/12/29/s...lty-fuel-pump/
http://www.autoblog.com/2012/12/29/s...lty-fuel-pump/
Wow, if SUZUKI is offering to do this... MB definitely needs to grow some ***** and help out their fellow owners... this is just ridiculous... it's the EXACT same problem!
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Is there any confirmation on updated parts (e.g., fuel sender, fuel tank, evap, etc.) that 100% resolve this fuel leak issue?
I mean, I'm about fed up with this issue and would front the cost to get this finally resolved...at least in the meantime as the NHTSA continues its investigation.
-GunMoto
I mean, I'm about fed up with this issue and would front the cost to get this finally resolved...at least in the meantime as the NHTSA continues its investigation.
-GunMoto
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Has anyone had their car inspected by the nhtsa investigator?? I had emailed him twice that my car was leaking fuel and was going to take it to dealer to get fixed. No response from investigator at all to take a look before I took it in .
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I think this is related - but not sure if its any help towards this entire process. I have been reading and watching this thread to see any outcome as I thought it might also affect me.
However - I think my car must have been sorted prior to my purchase? I have this sticker on the hood - which looks like it related to this being recalled back when.
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I see a few people keeping track and I'm more than happy to provide any further info or research the info on this if anyone feels it will help push this investigation along?
But - I'm hoping that i got lucky and it was resolved back in 2009.
Or should I go back to the dealer and find out what was done?
JP
However - I think my car must have been sorted prior to my purchase? I have this sticker on the hood - which looks like it related to this being recalled back when.
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I see a few people keeping track and I'm more than happy to provide any further info or research the info on this if anyone feels it will help push this investigation along?
But - I'm hoping that i got lucky and it was resolved back in 2009.
Or should I go back to the dealer and find out what was done?
JP
