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Old Mar 31, 2012 | 11:58 AM
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ESP Malfunction. Car won't start.

Car was stored for winter.
Trunk battery disconnected.
Installed 550cc injectors.
Throttle Body shaft grind.
ECU and TCU tunes.
Double checked hoses and electrical connections as I reassembled.
Charged auxiliary battery once a month.
Reconnected battery. Good voltage.
Engine rolls over but will not start.
ESP Malfunction, Visit Workshop.
Turned steering wheel left/right.
Disconnected batteries for 15mins.
Still the same.
Any suggestions?
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Old Mar 31, 2012 | 12:16 PM
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Did you install all of that stuff after storage and prior to starting for the new season? You pull codes? Pickup an ELM327 and a $6.00 Android Torque app. Every E55 owner should own one to pull,erase codes, and IATs,etc.

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Old Mar 31, 2012 | 01:05 PM
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Yes, all mods made/installed during storage and prior to starting.
The ELM requires a laptop?
Not very familiar with any type of code readers.
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Old Mar 31, 2012 | 02:04 PM
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Have you tried to put the car into dyno mode? Could be an ECU problem. The best thing to do is it hook it up to Star Das and check for codes.
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Old Mar 31, 2012 | 02:19 PM
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Yes, I tried Dyno Mode, Manual Mode, Sport Mode, Comfort Mode.
In Dyno Mode, alarms came up ESP diagnostics unavailable.
Moved the car back and forth a couple of feet.
Turned on/off towing alarm.
Still no go.
Star not an easy option for me. Car is in basement, will be very difficult to get it out of basement and nearest MB dealer is 80 miles away.
Would a OBDII handheld reader be of any use?
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Old Mar 31, 2012 | 02:27 PM
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Something I forgot to mention.
Before attempting to start the car. Key was turned to #2 position to allow fuel pump to fill fuel rail. ESP Malfunction appeared at this time.
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Old Mar 31, 2012 | 02:30 PM
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Does the car crank when you turn the key ,or is it totally dead?

Crank position sensor maybe?..... Common failure that prevents starting.


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Old Mar 31, 2012 | 02:40 PM
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Yes, engine cranks over easily.
Would crank position sensor prevent engine cranking or just not allow engine to start?
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Old Mar 31, 2012 | 02:41 PM
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Call your local auto parts store and see if they can lend you an OBD2 scanner. Some do it and they use your credit card to secure it. Worth a shot just so you can see what codes its throwing.
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Originally Posted by claywillard
Yes, engine cranks over easily.
Would crank position sensor prevent engine cranking or just not allow engine to start?

crank position sensor allows the car to crank but not catch or start. Does it say ESP malfunction or ESP unavailable? If it says unavailable, its because the battery was disconnected and you need to resync the steering angle sensor by turning the steering wheel left and right lock to lock.
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Old Mar 31, 2012 | 03:07 PM
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Alarm is: ESP Malfunction visit workshop.
I would be surprised that the ESP Malfunction would prevent the engine starting?
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Yes, engine cranks over easily.
Would crank position sensor prevent engine cranking or just not allow engine to start?
CPS failure will crank and crank and crank but won't fire. Check the DIY thread... That part is cheap to buy and simple to replace. It's a very common failure on these cars so it's worth replacing on a semi-regular basis.

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Originally Posted by claywillard
Alarm is: ESP Malfunction visit workshop.
I would be surprised that the ESP Malfunction would prevent the engine starting?
I have never seen ESP malfunction cause the car not to start. So it just crank and cranks and doesn't start? Change your CPS then give it another go.
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Originally Posted by claywillard
Yes, all mods made/installed during storage and prior to starting.
The ELM requires a laptop?
Not very familiar with any type of code readers.
ELM327 bluetooth adapter
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Torqur Android App
https://play.google.com/store/apps/d...l.torque&hl=en

Total under $25.00 and you can email, download, send to Dropbox, etc all of your stats.
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Before you replace the CPS (yes it is a common failure but go back to the basics first) if the ESP light is on and the engine will not fire I'm thinking a fuse is out or some electrical plugs were not properly connected during your upgrades. Check all your fuses to rule out any shorts, then recheck every electrical plug you may have touched and all around them, then replace your CPS, if still no luck I would suspect your ecu needs to be sent back and reflashed.

Also from my experience, sometimes the pins inside of electrical plugs bend and will not contact the receiving end of the female plug, check that as well.

Best of luck!
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Old Mar 31, 2012 | 05:13 PM
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The ELM requires a laptop, correct?
Would a new Snap On OBDII code reader be of any use to me?
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Old Mar 31, 2012 | 05:19 PM
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maybe a shot in the dark but, check your TB. I think you can unplug it and plug it back in and it will reinitialize. Make sure it is fully closed. If the ECU sees accelerator and throttle at different positions, it will shutdown the TB and throw an ESP code. My 80mm ate a gasket. The gasket held the throttle slightly open while the accelerator position was 0 or closed. I got the ESP code.
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Old Mar 31, 2012 | 05:23 PM
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maybe a shot in the dark but, check your TB. I think you can unplug it and plug it back in and it will reinitialize. Make sure it is fully closed. If the ECU sees accelerator and throttle at different positions, it will shutdown the TB and throw an ESP code. My 80mm ate a gasket. The gasket held the throttle slightly open while the accelerator position was 0 or closed. I got the ESP code.
Nice call! To add to this great advice I also believe you need to have the ignition on for at least 1 minute without trying to start the engine or press the accelerator in order for the TB to learn its positions
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maybe a shot in the dark but, check your TB. I think you can unplug it and plug it back in and it will reinitialize. Make sure it is fully closed. If the ECU sees accelerator and throttle at different positions, it will shutdown the TB and throw an ESP code. My 80mm ate a gasket. The gasket held the throttle slightly open while the accelerator position was 0 or closed. I got the ESP code.
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Old Mar 31, 2012 | 05:26 PM
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Before you replace the CPS (yes it is a common failure but go back to the basics first) if the ESP light is on and the engine will not fire I'm thinking a fuse is out or some electrical plugs were not properly connected during your upgrades. Check all your fuses to rule out any shorts, then recheck every electrical plug you may have touched and all around them, then replace your CPS, if still no luck I would suspect your ecu needs to be sent back and reflashed.

Also from my experience, sometimes the pins inside of electrical plugs bend and will not contact the receiving end of the female plug, check that as well.

Best of luck!

I had disconnected Throttle Body plug and checked pins/connections and cleaned with electrical contact cleaner. Appears OK. I rechecked all Injector connections. I disconnected and reconnected ECU connections. I had checked all fuses in the ECU fuse box. I checked bypass valve and MAF sensor connections. I will re check TCU connections and purchase a CPS sensor. Strange that I never had a code/alarm/issue for two years and something failed during storage.
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Old Mar 31, 2012 | 06:37 PM
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Disconnected battery again.
Turned ignition to #2 for 1 minute to allow ECU to read TB position.
While waiting, I received another message: Oil Level Sensor. visit workshop.
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Old Mar 31, 2012 | 07:47 PM
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Starting to look more like harness or ecu problems, contact your tuner
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Old Apr 1, 2012 | 07:53 AM
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Problem resolved I am embarrassed to say.
Did not have one of the ECU plugs connected properly.
Thank you for the help, guidance, and suggestions guys.
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Originally Posted by claywillard
Problem resolved I am embarrassed to say.
Did not have one of the ECU plugs connected properly.
Thank you for the help, guidance, and suggestions guys.
Thats good news
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