773hp & 925tq MHP E63 Tune Results
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Just no denying it anymore. The Supercharged 5.5 just doesn't even come close to the mighty twin turb'd 5.5
Soon as Benz depreciation does it's job, I am ditching asap for Turby Town.
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Maybe I am just an old man but I can't see how you could get performance jumps like that on a tune? I just can't see how you would get enough fuel. Stock injectors and stock heads, stock cams? You have to get the mix into the cylinder first. I have a lot of experience with blowers but alas, I need to study up more on turbo charging. I very well could be wrong but I would like something concrete. I am sure it is around the corner. If it is true, and you can get that car to hook up at the track, it would be nuts!
From the looks of that graph, that engine is choked big time after 5Krpm...it would be interesting to see what the next weakest link would be. Exhaust? Intake? Turbos?
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That's why i am not modding my E55 anymore. Keep it as it for the next 2 years and will pick up a 63TT. So basically this new V8 63TT perform better than 65 V12TT ???
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It's lighter and it's more advanced so yes I would say it has a huge advantage over the V12s. It's better for handling, braking, weight plus being a TT it's not like the V12s are gonna have an advantage over it even by size and cylinders. The new engine is a beast, I agree with you on keeping an E55 stock and then getting the 5.5TTs when they become a little cheaper. I mean tune only and these results...JESUS
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I think it's very possible. These engines have direct injection and not typical fuel injectors. The fuel is sprayed right on top of the piston and at very high pressure (over 1,000 psi) and is much more efficient than normal fuel injectors. The injection pumps are also capable of delivering a lot more fuel stock too. I think this is just a look into the future of where things are going.
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Jeez you guys sure do FORGET MHP 
fast... Don't you guys remember his claims of 1000 hp 1200+ tq on the 65 V12tt & what'd he end up really making in the real world? Couldn't even run a high 10... If memory serves it was 11.07 @ 128-129 mph..
You guys think RENNtech left that much rwhp rwtq on the table in their CLS63 tunes? High 570's & low to mid 620-640 rwtq the NEW trans isn't the reason either, MHP is Modern Horse-s!hit Period... The ONLY success he had was marginal ie Tune vs Tune ONLY on C63 platform that is severly neutered from factory so take this Graph & lame dyno run w/grain of salt MHP's rep here speaks volumes to the level headed here
The new V8TT is near max Boost w/PP option, the tunes just change the boost character & hold it longer in each gear vs stock, their isn't another 10+ psi left on the table to capture these claims..W/out bigger IC's/Turbo's look @ the CLStt w/aftermarket larger Turbs he's pushing these type of #'s Not happening w/ECU only
Here's the quote from Dubai cls63 w/custom larger Turbo build made 641 rwhp POST turbo upgrades..
The POST Turbo upgrade TQ graph read 683 rwtq please explain how MHP can get 23 LESS rwhp & 57 MORE rwtq from ECU Tune only sheesh gullible is a word that comes to mind here.. MHP ECU only 618 rwhp 740 rwtq
Here's dbasons55 POST Turbo upgrade DynoJet graph.. Note RWTQ is in Newton Meters converts to 683 not 900..
fast... Don't you guys remember his claims of 1000 hp 1200+ tq on the 65 V12tt & what'd he end up really making in the real world? Couldn't even run a high 10... If memory serves it was 11.07 @ 128-129 mph..You guys think RENNtech left that much rwhp rwtq on the table in their CLS63 tunes? High 570's & low to mid 620-640 rwtq the NEW trans isn't the reason either, MHP is Modern Horse-s!hit Period... The ONLY success he had was marginal ie Tune vs Tune ONLY on C63 platform that is severly neutered from factory so take this Graph & lame dyno run w/grain of salt MHP's rep here speaks volumes to the level headed here
The new V8TT is near max Boost w/PP option, the tunes just change the boost character & hold it longer in each gear vs stock, their isn't another 10+ psi left on the table to capture these claims..W/out bigger IC's/Turbo's look @ the CLStt w/aftermarket larger Turbs he's pushing these type of #'s Not happening w/ECU only
Here's the quote from Dubai cls63 w/custom larger Turbo build made 641 rwhp POST turbo upgrades..
Just a small history on my car and the dyno runs, my car is a CLS63 with PP, my first dyno was 529whp on the dynojet, after i installed the Brabus piggy back i dynoed at 579.5whp ONCE only the piggy back was not good where i had different readings from 540-579, they then installed another one after fixing it, my car read 550-554 constent. All on the same Dynojet, this is my results with the new upgrade, bare in mind this is the first base tune my car is getting another tune as i am typing this 
and will get more once my custom exhaust is ready in two weeks, and someother goodies.
and will get more once my custom exhaust is ready in two weeks, and someother goodies.Here's dbasons55 POST Turbo upgrade DynoJet graph.. Note RWTQ is in Newton Meters converts to 683 not 900..
Last edited by Thericker; Apr 3, 2012 at 04:35 PM.
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You have to remember that, unlike a supercharged engine, a modern turbo engine has it's boost controlled by the ECU. When you flash the ECU you can raise the boost pressure electronically. That's where the big power comes from.
From the looks of that graph, that engine is choked big time after 5Krpm...it would be interesting to see what the next weakest link would be. Exhaust? Intake? Turbos?
From the looks of that graph, that engine is choked big time after 5Krpm...it would be interesting to see what the next weakest link would be. Exhaust? Intake? Turbos?
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already discused with them the new TT engines shows higher number on dyno and they clearly stated
" what are you talking about !! we use engine dyno and therefore the engine output is in KW what we are claiming, however drivetrain loss is a lot less in these cars"
who am i to argue with them ^_^
so unless some one pulls the engine out of the car and put it on a " engine dyno " and give us a fly wheel hp, i will stick with what AMG engineers says.
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I think it's very possible. These engines have direct injection and not typical fuel injectors. The fuel is sprayed right on top of the piston and at very high pressure (over 1,000 psi) and is much more efficient than normal fuel injectors. The injection pumps are also capable of delivering a lot more fuel stock too. I think this is just a look into the future of where things are going.
Last edited by Ali_E55; Apr 4, 2012 at 12:23 AM.
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Jeez you guys sure do FORGET MHP fast... Don't you guys remember his claims of 1000 hp 1200+ tq on the 65 V12tt & what'd he end up really making in the real world? Couldn't even run a high 10... If memory serves it was 11.07 @ 128-129 mph..
You guys think RENNtech left that much rwhp rwtq on the table in their CLS63 tunes? High 570's & low to mid 620-640 rwtq the NEW trans isn't the reason either, MHP is Modern Horse-s!hit Period... The ONLY success he had was marginal ie Tune vs Tune ONLY on C63 platform that is severly neutered from factory so take this Graph & lame dyno run w/grain of salt MHP's rep here speaks volumes to the level headed here
The new V8TT is near max Boost w/PP option, the tunes just change the boost character & hold it longer in each gear vs stock, their isn't another 10+ psi left on the table to capture these claims..W/out bigger IC's/Turbo's look @ the CLStt w/aftermarket larger Turbs he's pushing these type of #'s Not happening w/ECU only
Here's the quote from Dubai cls63 w/custom larger Turbo build made 641 rwhp POST turbo upgrades..
The POST Turbo upgrade TQ graph read 683 rwtq please explain how MHP can get 23 LESS rwhp & 57 MORE rwtq from ECU Tune only sheesh gullible is a word that comes to mind here.. MHP ECU only 618 rwhp 740 rwtq
Here's dbasons55 POST Turbo upgrade DynoJet graph.. Note RWTQ is in Newton Meters converts to 683 not 900..
fast... Don't you guys remember his claims of 1000 hp 1200+ tq on the 65 V12tt & what'd he end up really making in the real world? Couldn't even run a high 10... If memory serves it was 11.07 @ 128-129 mph..You guys think RENNtech left that much rwhp rwtq on the table in their CLS63 tunes? High 570's & low to mid 620-640 rwtq the NEW trans isn't the reason either, MHP is Modern Horse-s!hit Period... The ONLY success he had was marginal ie Tune vs Tune ONLY on C63 platform that is severly neutered from factory so take this Graph & lame dyno run w/grain of salt MHP's rep here speaks volumes to the level headed here
The new V8TT is near max Boost w/PP option, the tunes just change the boost character & hold it longer in each gear vs stock, their isn't another 10+ psi left on the table to capture these claims..W/out bigger IC's/Turbo's look @ the CLStt w/aftermarket larger Turbs he's pushing these type of #'s Not happening w/ECU only
Here's the quote from Dubai cls63 w/custom larger Turbo build made 641 rwhp POST turbo upgrades..
The POST Turbo upgrade TQ graph read 683 rwtq please explain how MHP can get 23 LESS rwhp & 57 MORE rwtq from ECU Tune only sheesh gullible is a word that comes to mind here.. MHP ECU only 618 rwhp 740 rwtq
Here's dbasons55 POST Turbo upgrade DynoJet graph.. Note RWTQ is in Newton Meters converts to 683 not 900..
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RENNtech added Down Pipes, Hi-Flo or NO Cats, light Skinny's up front, light 18"s or less on Drag tires RR, RENN-LSD 93 ECU + more than likely added few gallons of 100+ oct @ Race Track etc...Please stop blurting, it's so easy for you to go back & re-read that thread before stating the CLS 63 ran 10's w/ECU only sweet jeezus this place is kandy land..
If you want to compare mod for mod, Claytons SL600 runs Basement 11.02 etc repeatedly on Stock front & rear 18" wheels, Drag tires out back MODS are ONLY ECU/TCU 93 oct, if the guy thru skinny's up front guaranteed 10's ALL DAY...
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Yes... But that has already been discussed to death NOT W/TUNE ONLY
RENNtech added Down Pipes, Hi-Flo or NO Cats, light Skinny's up front, light 18"s or less on Drag tires RR, RENN-LSD 93 ECU + more than likely added few gallons of 100+ oct @ Race Track etc...Please stop blurting, it's so easy for you to go back & re-read that thread before stating the CLS 63 ran 10's w/ECU only sweet jeezus this place is kandy land..
If you want to compare mod for mod, Claytons SL600 runs Basement 11.02 etc repeatedly on Stock front & rear 18" wheels, Drag tires out back MODS are ONLY ECU/TCU 93 oct, if the guy thru skinny's up front guaranteed 10's ALL DAY...
RENNtech added Down Pipes, Hi-Flo or NO Cats, light Skinny's up front, light 18"s or less on Drag tires RR, RENN-LSD 93 ECU + more than likely added few gallons of 100+ oct @ Race Track etc...Please stop blurting, it's so easy for you to go back & re-read that thread before stating the CLS 63 ran 10's w/ECU only sweet jeezus this place is kandy land..
If you want to compare mod for mod, Claytons SL600 runs Basement 11.02 etc repeatedly on Stock front & rear 18" wheels, Drag tires out back MODS are ONLY ECU/TCU 93 oct, if the guy thru skinny's up front guaranteed 10's ALL DAY...
