Originally Posted by urbamworm

That looks to be a Eurocharged pulley with the smooth front face which I believe is also made by ASP. It looks a little different than the one on their site that has aluminum type ring/washer down in there that the bolts go through but the rest of the pulley looks the same so they probably did away with that washer deal.

And to clear it up since so many people seem to be confused lately on what a RTR pulley is. The RTR pulley has an aluminum color portion where the belt rides all the way forward (the biggest belt riding surface of the 2 on the pulley). You can see how just that single outer pulley ring can unbolt to be changed to a different sized ring with the bolts way up front out in the open and it is the only pulley I know of that is silver like that.

See how the bolts are right there up in the front holding only that aluminum colored front portion on compared to how the pulley in above post has the bolts stuck way down in there holding the front to the harmonic balancer in the back?

This is a RTR pulley.

Originally Posted by 209sl55

Yes sir. Don't forget it has a timing mark sticker applied crookedly and paint where the crankshaft pulley bolt rides (which can cause issues and not allow proper torque and/or lead to the bolt loosening), thats in my opinion anyway.

Originally Posted by 209sl55

I agree with the motto you have to pay to play. I've popped several 13B-REW motors myself, believe me I'm no stranger to the headaches that come with modifying cars. I never posted that I was asking for anything, let alone a new motor. All I said was that I was upset, that I just want to get my car back to how it was, etc. All that said, I am still a bit peeved that I thought I was getting a somewhat 'proven and tested' product when in fact I got something totally different. I called Jerry about this after the install (when I realized it was in fact an RTR not an ASP) and was reassured that these pullies were in fact made by ASP, and that an engineer had deemed them safe (the 180, not the 190+ sizes). So I don't know where the truth lies. I do know I should have held firm and demanded the ASP (which I'm sure Jerry would have swapped out for an additional fee). So shame on me for deviating from my original plan of the tried and true (as much as possible with non-OEM parts anyway) ASP setup and not listening to the voice of experience in the back of my mind. Again, this thread is meant more as a warning to others. I haven't asked for anything, I haven't lawyer'd up... in my mind what's fair is a full refund and it would be nice if the vendors involved could help me source a reasonably priced crank. I think that's pretty fair all things considered?

Originally Posted by moosejaw

I think that's fair thing to ask

Originally Posted by 209sl55

I agree with the motto you have to pay to play. I've popped several 13B-REW motors myself, believe me I'm no stranger to the headaches that come with modifying cars. I never posted that I was asking for anything, let alone a new motor. All I said was that I was upset, that I just want to get my car back to how it was, etc. All that said, I am still a bit peeved that I thought I was getting a somewhat 'proven and tested' product when in fact I got something totally different. I called Jerry about this after the install (when I realized it was in fact an RTR not an ASP) and was reassured that these pullies were in fact made by ASP, and that an engineer had deemed them safe (the 180, not the 190+ sizes). So I don't know where the truth lies. I do know I should have held firm and demanded the ASP (which I'm sure Jerry would have swapped out for an additional fee). So shame on me for deviating from my original plan of the tried and true (as much as possible with non-OEM parts anyway) ASP setup and not listening to the voice of experience in the back of my mind. Again, this thread is meant more as a warning to others. I haven't asked for anything, I haven't lawyer'd up... in my mind what's fair is a full refund and it would be nice if the vendors involved could help me source a reasonably priced crank. I think that's pretty fair all things considered?