W211 AMG Discuss the W211 AMG's such as the E55 and the E63

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Old Oct 21, 2012 | 06:31 PM
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mrweelr are you up for meeting up for a friendly run? watch out for the san thomas area approaching the central expwy underpass, the motorbike swine frequently run a speed trap there.
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Old Oct 21, 2012 | 07:33 PM
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Wait till next year when the E63 4matic debuts...
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Old Oct 21, 2012 | 08:23 PM
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Wait till next year when the E63 4matic debuts...
Holy smokes, I was unaware of this. Can you imagine this beast from a dig?
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Old Oct 22, 2012 | 12:42 AM
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Originally Posted by lm7
mrweelr are you up for meeting up for a friendly run? watch out for the san thomas area approaching the central expwy underpass, the motorbike swine frequently run a speed trap there.
Yep, they hide there all the time, I've lived around here for 15+ years. Sure, we can do some friendly runs, weekends are best. I had a great run with a modded C5 Z06 on Lawrence the other night. This Vette sounded mean. We both spun going into 2nd, but I put carlength on him and held it up to 125mph. After that, we did another roll on from about 50mph and it was the same outcome. He turned off after we ran into traffic. Still loving this E55!
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Old Oct 22, 2012 | 01:00 AM
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Originally Posted by moosejaw
Wait till next year when the E63 4matic debuts...
I'm sorry....what?! I personally don't think they should even go that route.
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Old Nov 13, 2012 | 02:03 PM
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Originally Posted by mrweelr
Yep, they hide there all the time, I've lived around here for 15+ years. Sure, we can do some friendly runs, weekends are best. I had a great run with a modded C5 Z06 on Lawrence the other night. This Vette sounded mean. We both spun going into 2nd, but I put carlength on him and held it up to 125mph. After that, we did another roll on from about 50mph and it was the same outcome. He turned off after we ran into traffic. Still loving this E55!
What was done to the C5Z?
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Old Nov 13, 2012 | 03:32 PM
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I drove Andy from MHP's E63 Biturbo that had the PP package I believe, along with an aftermarket MHP tune.

Let me say this, dont even bother racing those cars, not unless you just want to see the thing accelerate away. No E55 on this board could run with them, period.

Just to give you a real world example on how fast they are, Clayton (Benz-o-Rama) ran Andy's tuned SLS AMG Gullwing up at Timmayfest. Well Claytons car is a V12 TT with a Speed Driven tune and runs 11.0, the SLS did walk away slowly on the highway from Benzo. I was in the E63 TT trying to catch up but did not make it.

After the runs, I asked Andy, how does the E63 TT compare to his Gulwing, he said there is no comparison. The E63 walks the gulwing badly from a role on!

True story. But it's an OE ECU/ Speedriven TCU.

The only thing I can cling onto is that it was 100* and my IATs were 150 before the pull. We all know that the V12s hate the heat and the 63s N/A seem to not care about ambient temp. But yeah, make no mistake, that SLS pulled on me without issue.

I also drove the same E63 that Craig is talking about. The thing just left me shaking my head. It just didn't make sense how quick it was, and how effortless it got there.


I really should get the Eurocharged flasher thingy, and swap between my current tune, and one of Jerry's. Same day, same track, same driver. See what's what.

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Old Nov 13, 2012 | 05:31 PM
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What was done to the C5Z?
Most likely a catback and tune. The 02+ LS6 is not something to mess around with. The fastest bone stock C5Z06 has gone 11.783 @ 116.90.
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Old Nov 13, 2012 | 05:47 PM
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Originally Posted by mrweelr
It was silver. Have had about 10 more street kills since then. Played with an R8 V10 on the way to work the other day. We couldn't get a clean run due to traffic, but that thing was very quick.
Where are you running all these cars at? Everytime I go out its the usual Integra, loud fart-can Accord followed by a Mini down the 110.
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Old Nov 13, 2012 | 05:50 PM
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Originally Posted by Benz-O-Rama
True story. But it's an OE ECU/ Speedriven TCU.

The only thing I can cling onto is that it was 100* and my IATs were 150 before the pull. We all know that the V12s hate the heat and the 63s N/A seem to not care about ambient temp. But yeah, make no mistake, that SLS pulled on me without issue.

I also drove the same E63 that Craig is talking about. The thing just left me shaking my head. It just didn't make sense how quick it was, and how effortless it got there.


I really should get the Eurocharged flasher thingy, and swap between my current tune, and one of Jerry's. Same day, same track, same driver. See what's what.
I'd bet in cooler weather, you'd beat it. I know firsthand how bad heat soak on the V12 is. At its worst, I would compare it too a bad IC pump on the 55s. Just losing gobs of WHP.
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Old Nov 13, 2012 | 07:29 PM
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Originally Posted by Prada
I'd bet in cooler weather, you'd beat it. I know firsthand how bad heat soak on the V12 is. At its worst, I would compare it too a bad IC pump on the 55s. Just losing gobs of WHP.
The owner of the SLS also agrees with this sentiment. He used to own a tuned SL65 before the SLS so he has a good barometer. All my basement 11s were run in ice cold air, in negative DA. I think I'm probably a tick or two quicker in those conditions. But that day, he had the faster car, no doubt about it.

I flogged that SLS around for a bit before we raced and its gearing is perfect for 60mph rolls. It felt strong, but I still thought my soaked V12 will still win. I was wrong.
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Old Nov 13, 2012 | 09:34 PM
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Originally Posted by Benz-O-Rama
The owner of the SLS also agrees with this sentiment. He used to own a tuned SL65 before the SLS so he has a good barometer. All my basement 11s were run in ice cold air, in negative DA. I think I'm probably a tick or two quicker in those conditions. But that day, he had the faster car, no doubt about it.

I flogged that SLS around for a bit before we raced and its gearing is perfect for 60mph rolls. It felt strong, but I still thought my soaked V12 will still win. I was wrong.
I couldn't tell from vid, were you rolling the heavy 20"s from your sig or OEM 18"s? If 20"s I'd bet you would've either been an even match or possibly turned the tables, that was a very slow walk.. I can personally attest to how much heavy 20"s rob these cars, EZ 30+ rwp in my case..

PS for crying outloud will you please strap that CAI from TTM onto your damned SL it's worth easy 20-25 rwp over stock pos airbox Worth @ least 1.5 - 2 tenths in 1/4 imagine 10.8x @ 128+ mph in ur sig
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Old Nov 13, 2012 | 10:43 PM
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what is a CAI from TTM mean?

what does that mean? and can i get it for my SL 55?
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Old Nov 13, 2012 | 10:44 PM
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Originally Posted by Prada
Where are you running all these cars at? Everytime I go out its the usual Integra, loud fart-can Accord followed by a Mini down the 110.
Usually on San Tomas or Lawrence. Not many other clean roads around here to get good action. Some Friday and Saturday nights I'll just cruise around for a few hours hunting and get nothing but Mustangs or Hondas to bite, but every so often I run into something worth playing with. This CLS63 just flew up behind me on San Tomas while I was cruising home that night and there wasn't really any traffic. He must have seen me turn on at the previous light and wanted action. We got two runs in from a dead stop and they were so close it was such a rush. The C5Z had a loud exhaust, was lowered and I don't know what else it had but it sounded mean and the guy was definitely not happy I pulled him.

Oh...that reminds me. I had this guy in a new BMW Z4sDrive35is try to race me a few weeks ago. He held pretty good from a 35mph punch, but I started to walk him hard once I overcame the jump he got on me. I know I'll get clobbered by something sooner or later, but it hasn't happened yet. The old E55 beast is still a force to be reckoned with :-)

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