W211 AMG Discuss the W211 AMG's such as the E55 and the E63

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Old Aug 16, 2012 | 05:36 PM
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accurate data logging...

Looking to optimize my Dash Command setup


There are a few variables to really dial in the car...

Here are the settings I used: (some auto-generated by DC)

OBD-II Settings:
ISO/KWP Keep Alive Interval (ms): 3000
OBD-II Response Timeout (ms): 200
Disable OBD-II Mode $09 Support: OFF (default)
Minimum Bus Idle Time: 0 (default)

Specifications:
Fuel Tank capacity: 21.1 gal (US)
Engine Displacement: 5439cc
Volumetric Efficiency: 70% (estimated between 65-80)
MAF PID:*
MAP PID:*
Lambda (actual) PID:*
Lambda (commanded) PID:*
Tire Size Specification: 275/35/R18
Final Drive Ratios: 3.59;2.19;1.41;1;.83
Wheel Circumference: 80 in
Curb Weight: 4200lb (est)
Additional Weight:
Drag Coefficients: .29
Frontal Area:
Maximum Engine Speed: 6500 rpm
Minimum Engine Speed: 650 rpm
Shift Point: (most economical shift rpm?)
Fuel Type: Gasoline
Tire rolling resistance coefficient: .013 (recommeded)
Speed Correction:

* This is used to enter an external sensor PID that was not factory installed on the vehicle. If you are not sure, do not enter anything here.



any recommendations for Frontal Area, shift rpm?

also, does the Eurocharged tune modify redline?

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Old Aug 16, 2012 | 07:09 PM
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Eurocharged raises rpm redline to 6700rpm I believe.

Looks pretty cool, does it read knock retard though?
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Old Aug 16, 2012 | 07:42 PM
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I thought redline was bumped a little

it shows timing advance/retard - not sure if it's logging the knock sensor other than showing the timing difference...


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Old Aug 16, 2012 | 07:51 PM
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Old Aug 16, 2012 | 07:57 PM
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nice pics, but remember when logging from OBD2, as you select more parameters it will slow the data transfer down significantly....i try to log just 2 or 3 items from OBD2...
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Old Aug 16, 2012 | 08:37 PM
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Originally Posted by cij911
nice pics, but remember when logging from OBD2, as you select more parameters it will slow the data transfer down significantly....i try to log just 2 or 3 items from OBD2...
what is shown in the screens above is in the default setup - pretty nice, minimal lag so far...

there are a TON of options behind the scenes - right now, doing good with IATs
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Old Aug 16, 2012 | 08:59 PM
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Todd - What IATs are you seeing ? Today I was a bit inland (only 5 or so miles from the ocean) and it was ~100 out and my IATs went from ~115 to ~160 on several 3rd gear full pulls....Crazy....
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Old Aug 16, 2012 | 09:36 PM
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Just cruising around 115-123 - haven't had a clear stretch to really work it out
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Old Aug 16, 2012 | 11:04 PM
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does anyone know the frontal area (coefficient of drag)? I saw somewhere on the site that the E63 is .29 - is the E55 different?

The E-Class Coupe has the distinction of being the most aerodynamic production car ever marketed, according to the automaker, with the lowest drag coefficient on record.

what about the Shift Point: (most economical shift rpm?)
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Old Aug 16, 2012 | 11:06 PM
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wait - I found it...

the E55 claims a slippery 0.28 coefficient of drag.

Read more: http://www.motortrend.com/roadtests/...#ixzz23lkQKox2
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Truly inspiring!!
I am going to study it some tonight, looks intriguing.
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Old Aug 24, 2012 | 04:54 PM
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as Jim suggested above - the specs for drive ratios is the gear ratio (1 through 5) multiplied by the final drive ratio (stock is 2.65)
so the E55 ratios should be:

Gear x Final Drive = Ratio
3.59 x 2.65 = 9.51
2.19 x 2.65 = 5.80
1.41 x 2.65 = 3.74
1.00 x 2.65 = 2.65
0.83 x 2.65 = 2.12
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Old Aug 24, 2012 | 05:43 PM
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Originally Posted by Toadster
as Jim suggested above - the specs for drive ratios is the gear ratio (1 through 5) multiplied by the final drive ratio (stock is 2.65)
so the E55 ratios should be:

Gear x Final Drive = Ratio
3.59 x 2.65 = 9.51
2.19 x 2.65 = 5.80
1.41 x 2.65 = 3.74
1.00 x 2.65 = 2.65
0.83 x 2.65 = 2.12


Toad,

Got the PLX WiFI last night but can't get it to sync with DashCommand

I did the PLX setup using 192.169.0.11 subnet 255.255.255.0

Is there an obscure setup area in DashCommand to setup the wifi connection?

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Old Aug 25, 2012 | 06:21 AM
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Originally Posted by GregMB
Toad,

Got the PLX WiFI last night but can't get it to sync with DashCommand

I did the PLX setup using 192.169.0.11 subnet 255.255.255.0

Is there an obscure setup area in DashCommand to setup the wifi connection?

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mine hooked up quickly - did you turn on the Kiwi?
(not being dumb, but I didn't realize there was a power switch)

I think in the directions you can setup the application to be 192.168.0.10
be sure to set the port to 35000
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The directions said to start the car before plugging it in. Once I plugged it in the face lights up and I see it as an available WiFi device on my iPhone.

Pretty confident that the WiFi part is working. In dashCommand there seems to be an area in Setup (OBD-II data port) where you can choose either "auto" or custom IP. Default was auto, but I think maybe I should be confiding the IP and port # manually in that area? Is that how yours is?

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Weird. I just noticed that my VIN was automatically logged under vehicle info.

Obviously the connection worked at least briefly at one point. How much of that vehicle data has to be filled in beforehand?
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Old Aug 25, 2012 | 06:33 PM
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Weird. I just noticed that my VIN was automatically logged under vehicle info.

Obviously the connection worked at least briefly at one point. How much of that vehicle data has to be filled in beforehand?
it picked up my VIN and read the PIDs - go into your vehicle setup and enter in as much info and validate the PIDs - it should work like a champ
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Old Aug 25, 2012 | 08:53 PM
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How do you get it to show IAT's? I didnt see that as an option? Also what # is normal?
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Old Aug 25, 2012 | 09:23 PM
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Originally Posted by gazosnic
How do you get it to show IAT's? I didnt see that as an option? Also what # is normal?
4th tab (with the engine pic) - labelled INTAKE



with my new FT-P Heat Exchanger and a new I/C (Bosch) pump - I can generally have IATs ~10*F hotter than ambient (so far that's what I've seen)
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Old Aug 27, 2012 | 04:59 AM
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Toad, I am in the process of doing the same tweaking for better readings. Firstly, double check your tire circumf...

Also, have you had any luck getting torque or HP readings? If so, do you feel those could be reliable figures, or just calculations based on data entered x phones onboard accelerometer?

I just got this app, and the newest china-made wifi device, and am really looking forward (or at least hoping) to this app providing accurate and valuable data.

Thanks, and best,


Lastly, ditto the port #, and ".10" for the IP addy.
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Originally Posted by Toadster
4th tab (with the engine pic) - labelled INTAKE



with my new FT-P Heat Exchanger and a new I/C (Bosch) pump - I can generally have IATs ~10*F hotter than ambient (so far that's what I've seen)
Generally one see IATs ~20 - 25 degrees above ambient after driving for a bit (cruising), but once you go WOT you will see the IATs climb high. I cannot speak for Todd's setup, but with mine on repeated back to back 3rd gear pulls, with ambient ~93 my IATs will go above 165. For just one pull they will stay below 140.
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Old Aug 30, 2012 | 04:56 PM
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Originally Posted by Half Fast Drivr
Toad, I am in the process of doing the same tweaking for better readings. Firstly, double check your tire circumf...

Also, have you had any luck getting torque or HP readings? If so, do you feel those could be reliable figures, or just calculations based on data entered x phones onboard accelerometer?

I just got this app, and the newest china-made wifi device, and am really looking forward (or at least hoping) to this app providing accurate and valuable data.

Thanks, and best,


Lastly, ditto the port #, and ".10" for the IP addy.

yes - I modified to 80" for circumerence - it's close, but not 'perfect'

I haven't played much with it lately, just been watching IAT and timing
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Old Aug 31, 2012 | 09:40 AM
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Those screen shots sure look pretty, but your real life data logs leave a lot to be desired.
Just checking the three you took while dynoing, linked below. The first two scans, your IAT never refreshed so you had zero data points for IAT. The third scan, it refreshed at the start of the pull only. The other parameters refreshed at a better rate, but still incomplete data. Were you possibly logging more than the four parameters shown?

https://mbworld.org/forums/5334334-post34.html
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Old Aug 31, 2012 | 09:50 AM
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Originally Posted by lowprofile
Those screen shots sure look pretty, but your real life data logs leave a lot to be desired.
Just checking the three you took while dynoing, linked below. The first two scans, your IAT never refreshed so you had zero data points for IAT. The third scan, it refreshed at the start of the pull only. The other parameters refreshed at a better rate, but still incomplete data. Were you possibly logging more than the four parameters shown?

https://mbworld.org/forums/5334334-post34.html
there's a LOT of data logged - take a look

https://docs.google.com/open?id=0B0b...WVyM3I2S2VoejQ
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Old Aug 31, 2012 | 10:06 AM
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Link not working.
So which parameters were you logging aside from what you shared?
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