W211 AMG Discuss the W211 AMG's such as the E55 and the E63

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Old Feb 16, 2013 | 04:45 PM
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You should look into a full loop fuel rail to keep #8 from being starved and seeing if you want to add that to the list for safety.

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$1650 EC LT headers
$900 185 MM pulley.
$900+ OE tune .
$200 new IC pump
$500 550 injectors
$800-1000 82 MM TB
$500-$1000 Killer Chiller

$75 K&N drop in *Bought*
$75 One step colder plugs *Bought*

$$ ?? Installation of some of these parts



$450 belt wrap kit *maybe* Would like to save the money right now but if belt slip is going to be an issue I might need to get this.
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Old Feb 16, 2013 | 04:48 PM
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Might want to add looped fuel rail to your list^^^^ this
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Old Feb 16, 2013 | 05:07 PM
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Originally Posted by Mikesamg
You should look into a full loop fuel rail to keep #8 from being starved and seeing if you want to add that to the list for safety.

I have read about those and have heard mixed things about them. I though I read some people saying it was a bad idea for some reason but I dont recall exactly. Have been filling my head with so much info in the last week
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Old Feb 16, 2013 | 05:28 PM
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There's no bad thing about a looped fuel rail unless it's a hack job

Only Goto TTM motorsports for your rail
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Old Feb 16, 2013 | 05:49 PM
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Ok got it.

What injectors exactly do I need. I saw lots of 550cc ones but they have different mm on them. Can get Bosch ones for around $420 shipped. Probably getting a locals anyway , just curious.
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Old Feb 16, 2013 | 05:53 PM
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I and many others have gone through Bruce at TTM and he gives a total package

Fuel rail and injectors
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Old Feb 16, 2013 | 06:07 PM
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Originally Posted by dllhg
I have read about those and have heard mixed things about them. I though I read some people saying it was a bad idea for some reason but I dont recall exactly. Have been filling my head with so much info in the last week
I have it and so does the SLR and that's all I needed to know
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Old Feb 16, 2013 | 06:10 PM
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Your list is still missing the Quaife.....

$915 shipped from EC currently (that's a screaming deal BTW) but supplies are limited.


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Old Feb 16, 2013 | 06:27 PM
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Ok so Fuel rails and Fuel filter I just read is important too. Can cause a lean situation if dirty.
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Old Feb 16, 2013 | 06:36 PM
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Your list is still missing the Quaife.....

$915 shipped from EC currently (that's a screaming deal BTW) but supplies are limited.


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Old Feb 16, 2013 | 06:50 PM
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Fuel filter is on the fuel sender/fuel pump
Don't touch it unless it leaks!!
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Old Feb 16, 2013 | 09:23 PM
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Originally Posted by Hulk
Fuel filter is on the fuel sender/fuel pump
Don't touch it unless it leaks!!
I was just reading some threads by some very reputable members and they said you should change it and change it often to avoid a possible lean condition Good with me if I dont need to add another part to my list
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Old Feb 16, 2013 | 09:36 PM
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If the sender and pump are not leaking, don't touch it
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Old Feb 17, 2013 | 01:17 PM
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hey dllhg why are you going with a OEtune as opposed to the new Eurocharged tune setup ? Just wondering, since im also lookign to beef up the E55 in the next few weeks.. trying to build a list as well...
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Old Feb 18, 2013 | 01:17 AM
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hey dllhg why are you going with a OEtune as opposed to the new Eurocharged tune setup ? Just wondering, since im also lookign to beef up the E55 in the next few weeks.. trying to build a list as well...
The reason is I am wanting to blueprint someone elses setup that is running fantastic times for his mods. One thing I have seen pop up over and over in this forum is guys running amazing times for their mods, most of them have OE tunes. I mean 5K in mods and run 10s ..... Crazy stuff.
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Old Feb 18, 2013 | 01:24 AM
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Getting this pretty dialed and hope to be done ordering this list within the next 24 hours. Not bad considering I just started researching my mod list in the last week and my car doesnt arrive until this Wed or Thur =)

Going to skip the looped rail at this time as well as the LSD. After talking to quite a few members making great numbers without the rails and getting their input I dont think I need this. One member ran 10.8@130 MPH with his setup on stock injectors no less. OE tune as well. I am thinking more and more the #8 issue is solved with a proper tune and that is probably the most important factor if the rest of your ducks are in a row. LSD, dont want to spend the $$ plus plenty of guys on stock one running 10s. Maybe later if I get bored. Wonder what before and after results are on that on the same exact setups.

Still wonder if belt slip will be an issue. Might try it like this first and later get the wrap kit. Or if funds look good as I get near the end I might just grab it anyway. Seems like it is a great idea to get max boost with your setup. I wouldnt have thought it was an issue since you are not going with smaller pulleys on these cars but rather larger pulleys but what do I know.


$1000 OE tune .
$500-$1000 Killer Chiller
180 T-stat ?
$300 Might get rear mount tank locally

$1700 EC LT headers *Purchased*
$900 185 MM pulley. *Purchasing in the next 24 hours*
$900 EC 82 MM TB *Purchased*
$375 550 injectors *Purchasing in the next 24 hours*
$115 new IC pump *Purchased*
$75 K&N drop in*Purchased*
$75 One step colder plugs *Purchased*
$200 MT Drag radials for strip *Buying* Just sold my new set for my GTO for $300 so its a wash

$$ ?? Installation of some of these parts

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Old Feb 18, 2013 | 01:39 AM
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Originally Posted by dllhg
Getting this pretty dialed and hope to be done ordering this list within the next 24 hours. Not bad considering I just started researching my mod list in the last week and my car doesnt arrive until this Wed or Thur =)

Going to skip the looped rail at this time as well as the LSD. After talking to quite a few members making great numbers without the rails and getting their input I dont think I need this. One member ran 10.8@130 MPH with his setup on stock injectors no less. OE tune as well. I am thinking more and more the #8 issue is solved with a proper tune and that is probably the most important factor if the rest of your ducks are in a row. LSD, dont want to spend the $$ plus plenty of guys on stock one running 10s. Maybe later if I get bored. Wonder what before and after results are on that on the same exact setups.

Still wonder if belt slip will be an issue. Might try it like this first and later get the wrap kit. Or if funds look good as I get near the end I might just grab it anyway. Seems like it is a great idea to get max boost with your setup. I wouldnt have thought it was an issue since you are not going with smaller pulleys on these cars but rather larger pulleys but what do I know.


$1000 OE tune .
$500-$1000 Killer Chiller
180 T-stat ?
$300 Might get rear mount tank locally

$1650 EC LT headers *Purchasing in the next 24 hours*
$900 185 MM pulley. *Purchasing in the next 24 hours*
$900-$1000 82 MM TB *Purchasing in the next 24 hours*
$375 550 injectors *Purchasing in the next 24 hours*
$115 new IC pump *Purchased*
$75 K&N drop in*Purchased*
$75 One step colder plugs *Purchased*
$200 MT Drag radials for strip *Buying* Just sold my new set for my GTO for $300 so its a wash

$$ ?? Installation of some of these parts

$450 belt wrap kit *maybe* Would like to save the money right now but if belt slip is going to be an issue I might need to get this.
82mm TB is with Eurocharged plug and play complete, only 1350 USD and I believe they still have 2 of them, so better to contact Jerry from Eurocharged and get it.

Check with Eurocharged for the pulley, they may have offers for Pulley + Tune with great price, they always have these stuff around, who knows, they might even give you free TCU if you are lucky enough coz I see on the list you will be a lot of stuff from them
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Old Feb 18, 2013 | 08:43 AM
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I am thinking more and more the #8 issue is solved with a proper tune and that is probably the most important factor if the rest of your ducks are in a row.
Injectors are almost at 100% duty cycle with the list of mods you are going to put on....so #8 is fixed with injectors and proper tune. We highly recommend TTM's looped fuel rail.

Like mentioned we have a few great package prices for ECU/TCU/tb/pulley.

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Old Feb 18, 2013 | 12:16 PM
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I think the only thing I have not seen mentioned would be the high stall torque converter. Being that you are after a drag set up it would be worth looking into, I have not seen a ton of people who have done it but those who have seem to have promising results.
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Looped rail before LSD bro
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Old Feb 18, 2013 | 11:08 PM
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Injectors are almost at 100% duty cycle with the list of mods you are going to put on....so #8 is fixed with injectors and proper tune. We highly recommend TTM's looped fuel rail.

Like mentioned we have a few great package prices for ECU/TCU/tb/pulley.

I am getting injectors for sure. Might hold off on the looped rail for now.
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Old Feb 18, 2013 | 11:16 PM
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Well looks like I am over budget .... =( I am coming in right around $7200-7500 now parts and install ..... Damn it. Depends on the deal I get on installs mostly but I will surely be over $6500 it seems. I can just barely swing the $6500 I guess.

I could save $700 and go with the Kleemans but I feel I will regret it later down the road an will be more work later. 10-20 WHP and 30 TQ is fairly significant but maybe it wont matter as much as I think. some of the previous dynos I saw comparing the two were from shortys to LTs. I did see a NA motor make a huge jump over the Kleemans but NA benefits a lot more from scavenging then a FI motor.
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Old Feb 18, 2013 | 11:37 PM
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Maybe you should start small then go big. Pulley,tune,heat exchanger, intercooler pump and a tune then later on after you learn the car more go TB,injectors & fuel rail and headers
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Maybe you should start small then go big. Pulley,tune,heat exchanger, intercooler pump and a tune then later on after you learn the car more go TB,injectors & fuel rail and headers
Already got the TB. injectors, plugs, filters,IC pump. Seems like the headers are a very important role for the goals I want. I just wish I could see some solid data on the Kleemans VS good LTs headers. Dyno and at the track. I mean that one member had Kleemans and was running 10.8@130 MPH but he had 120 lbs removed and was at Atco so I'd say it was probably a little lower at most other tracks maybe 10.95@126-127. All just guessing though. He did have a 180 mm pulley instead of a 185 as well. Even Corey at Kleeman admitted they would be down about 10 WHP and up to 30TQ at the wheels. I'd think that is good for a couple tenths but maybe not. If it was only a tenth I'd probably just get the Kleemans. Stuff like this drives me crazy.
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Already got the TB. injectors, plugs, filters,IC pump. Seems like the headers are a very important role for the goals I want. I just wish I could see some solid data on the Kleemans VS good LTs headers. Dyno and at the track. I mean that one member had Kleemans and was running 10.8@130 MPH but he had 120 lbs removed and was at Atco so I'd say it was probably a little lower at most other tracks maybe 10.95@126-127. All just guessing though. He did have a 180 mm pulley instead of a 185 as well. Even Corey at Kleeman admitted they would be down about 10 WHP and up to 30TQ at the wheels. I'd think that is good for a couple tenths but maybe not. If it was only a tenth I'd probably just get the Kleemans. Stuff like this drives me crazy.
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