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Old Apr 6, 2013 | 03:48 PM
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87 octane in a car tuned for 93

So I pull into the gas station to fill up the SL. Right next to me are two gorgeous twenty somethings I now know attend the University of Wisconsin. While I am completely preoccupied with them, I manage to put 87 in the car instead of 93. I realized what I had done, just as they drove off and managed to get about 4 gallons of 93 in the tank. I put about 14 gals of 87 in.

I know I deserve what I get for flirting with a couple of women half my age, but how concerned should I be about this? My car, I mean I put a can of octane booster in the tank today and plan to stay out of hard pulls until I have gone through the tank. Any other suggestions?

I guess it is a good thing the diesel nozzle won't fit in the tank.

For those who don't know or if it matters, my SL is modded close to stage three and dyno tuned by EC.
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Old Apr 6, 2013 | 03:54 PM
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Just drive the car gently and stay out of boost and you should be fine...If you start knocking, your car will just pull timing...That said, don't drive it hard or you could really damage your pistons if the knocking is severe.
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Old Apr 6, 2013 | 03:56 PM
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should be fine. just drive "normal" and run this tank out. you may experience some unusual shaking when cutting car off or rough idle with this tank due to the 87 octane but if you have place a "booster" inside, it should "balance" it off. whenever i have gotten "bad" gas the car shaked when cutting off and during start up you can tell something was not right. made a point to never fill up at that particular gas station again. but "normal" driving until next fillup you should be just fine! no worries.
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Old Apr 6, 2013 | 04:00 PM
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If you have a pulley and tune avoid boost
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Old Apr 6, 2013 | 05:25 PM
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Thanks guys. I am running a 178 pulley. I was thinking a casual cruise on the freeway at 70 mph and not much more than 2,000 revs would be a good way to burn up the tank of 87.
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Old Apr 6, 2013 | 05:26 PM
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Do you have access to any 101 unleaded? It's spendy but 5 gallons of that in the tank should bring it back up or just be easy like the others say. I have not put any 101 in E63 tank like I have my Porsche to run 96-98 Octane. Porsche loves it though.
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Old Apr 6, 2013 | 06:13 PM
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.Just run it out without getting into boost as others have said. Easiest, cleanest way to do it. Be glad they didn't ask for a fun ride in that sporty looking car of yours. Lol
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Old Apr 6, 2013 | 07:48 PM
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Go to the parts store and buy a bottle of NOS Racing Formula octane boost. A 12 oz bottle should get you to 91 octane very safely. You can add a second bottle and that should put you just over 94. I would just add 12 oz and call it a day since you added some 93 and had some in the tank already. You can also add "The Outlaw" brand but it has tested as not quite as effective and should end up about 1 to 1.5 less on the rating.
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Old Apr 6, 2013 | 08:00 PM
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Exactly why I keep a can of Torco race fuel concentrate on hand. Octane booster is crap, get some Torco for future transgressions.

As others stated, you'll be fine. Just keep your foot out of it.
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Old Apr 6, 2013 | 09:01 PM
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just cruise on the freeway at 65mph and drive until you have one bar left on the fuel gauge
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Old Apr 6, 2013 | 09:11 PM
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Light a match and throw it in the tank, it'll burn up all of the 87, then just go fill up again.
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Old Apr 6, 2013 | 09:22 PM
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Light a match and throw it in the tank, it'll burn up all of the 87, then just go fill up again.
if someone is able to put 87 oct in by mistake they might actually try this method to burn it up
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Old Apr 6, 2013 | 09:23 PM
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.Just run it out without getting into boost as others have said. Easiest, cleanest way to do it. Be glad they didn't ask for a fun ride in that sporty looking car of yours. Lol
Haha, we did talk about removing tops, but they decided it was a little chilly out.

As luck would have it, while I was driving home, a kid in an older WRX wanted to play. I didn't oblige. Lots of scoobies around these parts. I suspect he was thinking my car was a waste in the hands of an old F-er like me. Little did he know, I would have smoked his **** under normal circumstances. I hope to see him again.

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Exactly why I keep a can of Torco race fuel concentrate on hand. Octane booster is crap, get some Torco for future transgressions.

As others stated, you'll be fine. Just keep your foot out of it.

I will definitely heed your sage advise. I am quite sure something such as this could happen again.

BY the way, I never trusted octane booster for some reason. Is the stuff just a marketing gimmick or what?

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Old Apr 6, 2013 | 10:35 PM
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No it isn't a gimmick. The brands I recommended have been tested in an independent lab and proven to work (most boosters are next to useless though, not having enough MMT or ferosene to make an appreciable difference). I recommended these because they are easy to find and will correct the problem you have based on the assumption you are not planning on racing the car until you have cycled through this tank of gas. That being said, I personally have always added Torco before running at the track and agree it is one of the best out there.

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Old Apr 7, 2013 | 02:19 AM
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just cruise on the freeway at 65mph and drive until you have one bar left on the fuel gauge
But that's at least seven miles! Sin't nobody got time for that.

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Old Apr 7, 2013 | 02:26 AM
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Originally Posted by Benz-O-Rama
Exactly why I keep a can of Torco race fuel concentrate on hand. Octane booster is crap, get some Torco for future transgressions.

As others stated, you'll be fine. Just keep your foot out of it.
Agree with all of this ^^^^. Our 95 octane is about the equivalent of 91 octane in the USA so most petrolheads supplement with octane boosters. Torco appears to be the preferred brand amongst those in the know.
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Old Apr 7, 2013 | 06:59 AM
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The over the counter octane boosters work EXCEPT when they say "raises your octane 7 points" they mean .7 not say 87 becomes 94. It becomes 87.7 only. That's the gimmick part of it. I believe the Torco brand actually really helps though. Most are just toluene.
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Old Apr 7, 2013 | 10:10 AM
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Originally Posted by BBBSS
The over the counter octane boosters work EXCEPT when they say "raises your octane 7 points" they mean .7 not say 87 becomes 94. It becomes 87.7 only. That's the gimmick part of it. I believe the Torco brand actually really helps though. Most are just toluene.
Thanks for the info. So their claim of "boosting" octane is true, however misleading.

I actually have drums of pure toluene in my shop. I'm not sure if I want to try adding any to the tank though. Pure toluene is nasty crap. A couple years ago, one of my guys ran a fork from a lift through a full drum of toluene. He managed to get the drum in an over pack quick but a few gallons still got on the shop floor. He came into my office later and showed me the bottom of his boots. You could see his socks and almost all of the bottom of his feet. Toluene is a serious solvent.

Hey PA, I was going to try and burn the 87 out of my car, but it was raining out and I wasn't sure if it would be safe to do it in the garage.
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Old Apr 7, 2013 | 12:17 PM
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Originally Posted by BBBSS
The over the counter octane boosters work EXCEPT when they say "raises your octane 7 points" they mean .7 not say 87 becomes 94. It becomes 87.7 only. That's the gimmick part of it. I believe the Torco brand actually really helps though. Most are just toluene.
Correct for most brands
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Thanks for the info. So their claim of "boosting" octane is true, however misleading.

I actually have drums of pure toluene in my shop. I'm not sure if I want to try adding any to the tank though. Pure toluene is nasty crap. A couple years ago, one of my guys ran a fork from a lift through a full drum of toluene. He managed to get the drum in an over pack quick but a few gallons still got on the shop floor. He came into my office later and showed me the bottom of his boots. You could see his socks and almost all of the bottom of his feet. Toluene is a serious solvent.

Hey PA, I was going to try and burn the 87 out of my car, but it was raining out and I wasn't sure if it would be safe to do it in the garage.
Ya, always do it outside you don't want that smoke in your garage
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Old Apr 7, 2013 | 06:25 PM
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Originally Posted by Alex Kapparos
Correct for most brands
Thanks Alex and everyone else. I threw a bottle of NOS racing formula in. Did some casual driving today. The problem is, the damn tank seems like it is lasting forever. It is amazing the gas mileage our engines can get if you keep your foot out of it. I let a mini van and a Prius pull a hole shot on me while getting on the freeway today.
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Old Apr 7, 2013 | 06:49 PM
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I let a mini van and a Prius pull a hole shot on me while getting on the freeway today.
PLEASE tell me you have tinted windows!!!
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So I pull into the gas station to fill up the SL. Right next to me are two gorgeous twenty somethings I now know attend the University of Wisconsin. While I am completely preoccupied with them, I manage to put 87 in the car instead of 93. I realized what I had done, just as they drove off and managed to get about 4 gallons of 93 in the tank. I put about 14 gals of 87 in.

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I guess it is a good thing the diesel nozzle won't fit in the tank.

For those who don't know or if it matters, my SL is modded close to stage three and dyno tuned by EC.

My Dad said you only have enough blood for one head.
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Old Apr 8, 2013 | 06:06 PM
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PLEASE tell me you have tinted windows!!!
Not enough to hide the embarrassment completely.



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My Dad said you only have enough blood for one head.
Your dad is a smart man. I suspect Benzo can speak to the issue better than I however.
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