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Old 04-08-2013, 07:17 PM
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BIP Pin Kit/Crank Repair

As requested, we decided to start a thread documenting our pin kit, and crank repair kit options. Every case is different when the CP comes loose and falls off, so let us know if you have any questions, and how we can help.

Pin kit $250







Crank Repair with keyway across entire snout

$750 with your crank as a core exchange-






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Has anyone ever sheared the key off with a stock pulley?
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I've heard of it happening but never seen one. I sheared my pin off and welded the pulley to the crank when mine decided to go south. Took a couple aggravating days to get it off plus a few broken pullers.
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You were full boggie when it let go, right?
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You were full boggie when it let go, right?
You could say that. Had my best 330ft by .11 and still went a high 6.70 i think at the 1/8th coasting and only trapped like 80mph. It was on a pass when it happened.
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This repair kit saved me and has been great since last Sept and about 3k miles on my new 195 ASP welded.
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I assume this can be done ahead of time as preventative maintenance since it seems to be an "extra" keyway we're drilling here?
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Has anyone ever sheared the key off with a stock pulley?
Yes It just happened...

Yes sir, you can do it upfront to prevent catastrophy.
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Do u still stock this kit?.
Originally Posted by BI-Performance
As requested, we decided to start a thread documenting our pin kit, and crank repair kit options. Every case is different when the CP comes loose and falls off, so let us know if you have any questions, and how we can help.

Pin kit $250







Crank Repair with keyway across entire snout

$750 with your crank as a core exchange-





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Do u still stock this kit?.
They haven't posted on the site in a couple of years and it shows them being a former vendor. Might want to shoot them a PM and hope they get an email about it.
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They haven't posted on the site in a couple of years and it shows them being a former vendor. Might want to shoot them a PM and hope they get an email about it.
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I have a BIP kit and will loan it out for $50. You will need the drill bits and the pin. P/M me if you are interested. I will need a refundable $200 deposit via PayPal.
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Concerning.

Confirming now, but if Weistec's kit does not work with any other cranks, then what new-available items are out there for pinning? It is clearly a problem once the engine comes apart and gets put back together. Yes, torque on a NEW oem bolt is number 1, but number 2 is getting more purchase on the just over 1/2 an inch of crank the pulley gets (just an inherently bad design - Mercedes puts an SC on an engine and doesn't redesign the crank snout - is basically what we have).
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Concerning.

Confirming now, but if Weistec's kit does not work with any other cranks, then what new-available items are out there for pinning? It is clearly a problem once the engine comes apart and gets put back together. Yes, torque on a NEW oem bolt is number 1, but number 2 is getting more purchase on the just over 1/2 an inch of crank the pulley gets (just an inherently bad design - Mercedes puts an SC on an engine and doesn't redesign the crank snout - is basically what we have).
I just installed an innovative design crank.pulley with their amazing pin kit works great and looks fantastic. Check out my thread spring time modding for more details
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I am glad your pulley looks great down there in the engine bay.

Again "What new available items are out there for pinning?"

I have an ASP pulley.
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I am glad your pulley looks great down there in the engine bay.

Again "What new available items are out there for pinning?"

I have an ASP pulley.
Well lets not be a dick about it i was mentioning THEIR pin kit cus its a new avaliable item u can use to pin ur crank ... beforing being a sarcastic jerk realize i was offering up a PIN kit that you could use as well wasn't saying u have to get the innovative crank pulley to use it ... geez
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Originally Posted by E55amg0220
Well lets not be a dick about it i was mentioning THEIR pin kit cus its a new avaliable item u can use to pin ur crank ... beforing being a sarcastic jerk realize i was offering up a PIN kit that you could use as well wasn't saying u have to get the innovative crank pulley to use it ... geez
Oh man, I'm sorry. Are you a millennial? Or maybe even a GenZ? I wasn't aware. There will be no award today for your participation. You guys should really have some signal on your posts so we can know to take it easy on you and protect you from reality.


I had no idea what you were talking about, and when I googled "Innovative design crank" and other permutations, I came up with nothing.


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To close off my question on this thread, I will just have the machinist broach the pulley and put another square keyway on the crank. Done. Waste of time and money to think the other way was going to work. My mistake.
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Oh man, I'm sorry. Are you a millennial? Or maybe even a GenZ? I wasn't aware. There will be no award today for your participation. You guys should really have some signal on your posts so we can know to take it easy on you and protect you from reality.


I had no idea what you were talking about, and when I googled "Innovative design crank" and other permutations, I came up with nothing.


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To close off my question on this thread, I will just have the machinist broach the pulley and put another square keyway on the crank. Done. Waste of time and money to think the other way was going to work. My mistake.
Ahhhhh look at smart little you .... trying to play in the big boy sandbox .... lol. But to entertain ur pathetic attempt at trying to talk down to me there sparky, no im no im neither a millenial or gen z. What i am is a 46 year old father, veteran that served in the gulf war for our country, and a son that was raised with better manners than to act like an arrogant jerk when someone comes on and literally trys to answer the question you asked.

Quote ... "What new pinning options are out there?" I'm pretty sure thats what ya asked and i offered up a new pinning kit that i had just used. Being that i test fit it to my original crank and the insert fit i know that it could possibly be used with the stock crank pulley not just the innovative crank pulley I installed.

I suppose uneducated, small minded, corpulent, cacafuego suffering from microphallus should also come with some sort of warning on their posts as well, just so we all know not to bother trying to offer some friendly help when they ask, their limited brain activity obviously can't deal with so many words at once.

So to close off my answer in this thread ill post up a pic .... cus hooked on phonics didn't work so well for you. So heres the pop up book version so you'll understand. This is a pin kit that innovative uses ..... this pin kit can be done in car .... this is a NEW thing for us .... it uses a new hardened keyway and 3 high strength pins. The billet piece fit perfectly in my old stock crank so I'm sure itll fit your asp. Could it be used on our cars, possibly, I dont see why not, but has it been done I don't know it was just an option.






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Einstein - seriously, put down the ego for second. All the kits allow pinning in the car. But the ones I found at Weistec, and infact the one you show, are made for use with THAT pulley.

Details matter. Look at your pics.

Three paragraphs of chest pounding? Here is one for you, directly from your generation (Smack in the middle of GenY) - Take a chill pill and freeze.
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Einstein - seriously, put down the ego for second. All the kits allow pinning in the car. But the ones I found at Weistec, and infact the one you show, are made for use with THAT pulley.

Details matter. Look at your pics.

Three paragraphs of chest pounding? Here is one for you, directly from your generation (Smack in the middle of GenY) - Take a chill pill and freeze.
Wow .... first off that would be Gen X i was born in 73 which is squarely in Gen X and its " Take a chill pill and relax." If your going to have a battle of wits with someone please be armed to do so before proceeding and have your facts straight. An while we are at it i called innovative an he said as long as the insert fits and the keyway lines up .... as i have already informed you it does .... then their pin kit will work just fine with any other crankshaft pulley.

But i think your plan to have your machinist do it will work just fine for u. I will completely agree with you that the design of the m113ks crankshaft is very flawed. Why they would only support the inner part of the pulley where all the stress on the crankshaft pulley is on the unsupported outter portion.

Anyway that was fun have a nice day 😉
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LOL, I see that things have not changed on this forum at all.
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LOL, I see that things have not changed on this forum at all.

Nope. But at least I figured out who is sensitive.

Oh, and I just had the second key machined along with the pulley. Looks like it will work great.
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Nope. But at least I figured out who is sensitive.

Oh, and I just had the second key machined along with the pulley. Looks like it will work great.
Not senitive at all ... just appreciate respect and good manners.

But hey looks like we figured out whos a jerk as well so win win for us all.

But on a positive note glad u got your crank figured out there sparky👍
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Not senitive at all ... just appreciate respect and good manners.

But hey looks like we figured out whos a jerk as well so win win for us all.

But on a positive note glad u got your crank figured out there sparky👍

Ah. We can easily go at it again if you wish. Let’s see what happens....

“Last word” .....
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Ah. We can easily go at it again if you wish. Let’s see what happens....

“Last word” .....
If thats what u would like to do ... but ull have to ask another question to which i will once again offer up a perfectly polite and helpful response .... to which ull have to once again post up a condensending doushy remark and then yes we would be able to do so.
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