W211 AMG Discuss the W211 AMG's such as the E55 and the E63

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Old Apr 24, 2013 | 07:25 PM
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Amazing work on the welds! Nice job.
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Old Apr 24, 2013 | 07:33 PM
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Fab work looks LEGIT!!
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Old Apr 24, 2013 | 09:39 PM
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Do you have your y pipe I can borrow? There is a plastic factory in my town and I want to make a bunch if these for us to use

Do it! I will gladly buy in the first batch. I will most likely buy more than one!
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Old Apr 24, 2013 | 11:48 PM
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looks good. But don't see it really helping with the heat from the engine and those tubes are just gonna get hot and raise your IAT's since they don't dissipate heat to well.
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Old Apr 25, 2013 | 09:59 AM
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looks awesome!
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Old Apr 25, 2013 | 11:33 AM
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That looks amazing. Would really compliment a set of MBH headers.
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Old Apr 25, 2013 | 11:47 AM
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It looks great, but what are you going to do with those tubes in your engine bay? That air is gonna be so damn hot! I'd expect you lose quite a bit of power, no?

Correct me if I'm wrong somebody ... that last pic just looks like a power loss, especially with the T setup and tubes like that.
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Old Apr 25, 2013 | 12:49 PM
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Originally Posted by ArmoE55
It looks great, but what are you going to do with those tubes in your engine bay? That air is gonna be so damn hot! I'd expect you lose quite a bit of power, no?

Correct me if I'm wrong somebody ... that last pic just looks like a power loss, especially with the T setup and tubes like that.
it will be alright
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Old Apr 25, 2013 | 02:34 PM
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So what's the answer??? I agree with the T setup, should be a restriction.. The metal will also heat up.. With a ceramic coating this would be nice.. Looks good.. I would play with another Y pipe setup.. As stated what's the answer??? I personally Need more air on my car and am actively looking for this answer...
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Old Apr 25, 2013 | 04:26 PM
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Looks really nicely put together

I will be running four different setup's this weekend will log IAT's but more importantly will have the timing beams to record top speed. Rolling start so no variation in launch and then 1.6 miles of runway

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1. Stock intake with BMC filters
2. Needswings CAI with supplied spectre filters
3. 3 inch Y-pipe with 5 x 8 inch K&N mounted over the coil packs (and headers!)
4. 3 inch Y-pipe with 5 x 4 inch K&N mounted at the front of the bay behind the radiator


I will post up the data next week.
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Old Apr 25, 2013 | 04:45 PM
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Originally Posted by ArmoE55
It looks great, but what are you going to do with those tubes in your engine bay? That air is gonna be so damn hot! I'd expect you lose quite a bit of power, no?

Correct me if I'm wrong somebody ... that last pic just looks like a power loss, especially with the T setup and tubes like that.
Simple fix/solution
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Old Apr 25, 2013 | 04:47 PM
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Simple fix/solution

What would that be? Header wrap?
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Old Apr 25, 2013 | 04:58 PM
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Savman let us know.. You know I'm in the Exact same boat as you.. Very curious as to what you back with...
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Old Apr 25, 2013 | 05:00 PM
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Originally Posted by typhoon43
What would that be? Header wrap?
https://mbworld.org/forums/5550111-post2.html

Read my post
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Old Apr 25, 2013 | 05:37 PM
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Fitting my DEI tomorrow
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Old Apr 25, 2013 | 05:47 PM
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Fitting my DEI tomorrow
Don't forget the Jegs heat barrier wrap as well to go over the DEI sleeve
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Old Apr 26, 2013 | 12:16 AM
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Originally Posted by SterlingE55
It may not be the 3" pipes (TWSS) it maybe those filters. See if you can swap them out for the spectre 4" filter with silicone couplers. That could save you some dough. ..Or make it sexy with Berti's set up.


Jerry@Eurocharged dyno tuned mine (4"spectre filter) without any noticeable airflow restrictions. Of course, removing any type of air filter from an intake will gain hp. On a side note, I think the open filters in the engine bay will be the best option for the racing days with our high hp 55K motors.....
Attached Thumbnails --a sneak peak of my custom Full Intake---ftp.jpg  

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Old Apr 26, 2013 | 03:29 AM
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Originally Posted by EREBUS
Jerry@Eurocharged dyno tuned mine (4"spectre filter) without any noticeable airflow restrictions. Of course, removing any type of air filter from an intake will gain hp. On a side note, I think the open filters in the engine bay will be the best option for the racing days with our high hp 55K motors.....
Did not get a chance to test but the Needswings CAI uses the standard plastic python tubes which could also be a restriction but it does point towards the tiny filter's. In fairness they seem fine up to 495 RWHP so it also depends on the mods you have.

When I log the runs it will be interesting to compare the first 11 secs of heat build up and effects on timing/fuelling as well as what happens after that point as I will still be accelerating for at least another 20 secs on top.
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Old Apr 26, 2013 | 01:34 PM
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Old Apr 26, 2013 | 01:42 PM
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Originally Posted by Hammer Down
Simple fix/solution
I'm not convinved some wrap is gonna help keep those tubes cool, sorry.


I'll wait to see the logs.
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Old Apr 26, 2013 | 01:43 PM
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Jerry@Eurocharged I think the open filters in the engine bay will be the best option for the racing days with our high hp 55K motors.....
Open filters in the engine bay will lead to timing being pulled thus killing your back end of your 1/4
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Old Apr 26, 2013 | 07:18 PM
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Open filters in the engine bay will lead to timing being pulled thus killing your back end of your 1/4
The HP monsters at the Texas mile were either running with no filters on their turbos or huge K&N cones getting nice and toasty under the hood. Would the 1/4 be different?
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Old Apr 26, 2013 | 11:54 PM
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Originally Posted by Baronet1
I'm not convinved some wrap is gonna help keep those tubes cool, sorry.


I'll wait to see the logs.
The DEI intake wrap alone is not enough so that's why you want to wrap the DEI sleeve with Jegs Heat Barrier Shield. The DEI sleeve is good to something like 400f but the tubes will get hot sitting above the header. The Heat Barrier Shield is good to like 1200f when wrapped once and 1500f when wrapped twice so I chose to only wrap once since I already had the sleeve in place. You don't have to believe me but I have the original "Fangs" setup that people said it wouldn't work due to heat build up in the tubes then I realized that Novitec wraps their intake tubes on their twin supercharged builds so that was enough convincing for me.
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Old Apr 26, 2013 | 11:58 PM
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Originally Posted by Baronet1
I'm not convinved some wrap is gonna help keep those tubes cool, sorry.


I'll wait to see the logs.
Here is a pic of a Novitec Setup
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Old Apr 27, 2013 | 12:06 AM
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The HP monsters at the Texas mile were either running with no filters on their turbos or huge K&N cones getting nice and toasty under the hood. Would the 1/4 be different?
Go out and disconnect your intake tubes from the stock airbox (if that's your setup) so that your are drawing air from the engine bay and if you have a data logger log before and after runs from a dig up to 130 tubes connected vs tubes disconnected.
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