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Old Jun 3, 2013 | 01:20 PM
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Did MBH Motorsports go out of business?

I wanted to inquire about a set of headers for my car and emailed/left a voicemail but have not heard anything back from him.

I thought this was unusual since threads in the past said he was pretty responsive
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Old Jun 3, 2013 | 01:22 PM
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I saw MBH post over in the C63 forum. So who knows if they are on vacation or slow in checking email/voicemails.
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Old Jun 3, 2013 | 02:40 PM
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Old Jun 3, 2013 | 02:41 PM
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Originally Posted by FASN8N
I wanted to inquire about a set of headers for my car and emailed/left a voicemail but have not heard anything back from him.

I thought this was unusual since threads in the past said he was pretty responsive
I believe Markcali has a used set that have only been on his car for 400 miles. You may want to send him a PM so see what he wants for them.
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Old Jun 3, 2013 | 03:03 PM
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If he goes out of business, I have a collector's set of headers on my car that will only appreciate in value.
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Old Jun 3, 2013 | 03:16 PM
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Old Jun 5, 2013 | 06:03 PM
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Hi Mike, can you update me on the status of my G55 catted test pipes that I paid for in April please? I tried contacting you for an update but without success also. I decided to wait for the catted pipes before installing your long tubes. Thanks in advance.

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Old Jun 19, 2013 | 09:21 AM
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I am losing faith in these guys.

Ordered the headers a little over two weeks ago and can't get the courtesy of a return phone call or email with a simple status update.

Others who have dealt with MBH in the past, is this normal?
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Old Jun 19, 2013 | 10:56 AM
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Originally Posted by FASN8N
I am losing faith in these guys.

Ordered the headers a little over two weeks ago and can't get the courtesy of a return phone call or email with a simple status update.

Others who have dealt with MBH in the past, is this normal?
Give me a call today, Or shoot me a PM or Email. I was not in the shop the past few days, I was doing this

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Old Jun 19, 2013 | 11:00 AM
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I WANT THOSE HEADERS!

Is there any torque loss down low with these headers?
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Old Jun 19, 2013 | 11:35 AM
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I WANT THOSE HEADERS!

Is there any torque loss down low with these headers?
No torque loss at all. In fact you gain torque in the the entire RPM range.
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Old Jun 19, 2013 | 11:45 AM
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Mike is a stand up guy. Great to deal with. I have a set on my car and love them. We had a fitment issue at one point on my car, He immediately was on it and sent a new header out to me without even returning the one that was on the car first. So the car really had no down time. As soon as I removed the old header I sent it back to him. Done deal. A ++
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Old Jun 19, 2013 | 12:21 PM
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Originally Posted by MBH motorsports
No torque loss at all. In fact you gain torque in the the entire RPM range.

Thanks. The reason I ask is because headers seem to result in a low end torque loss from what I've read and talked to people about (although slight, the loss the there) since boost drops a bit.

So, you're saying the grunt down low increases and doesn't lose any torque whatsoever?
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Old Jun 19, 2013 | 03:51 PM
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Originally Posted by ArmoE55
Thanks. The reason I ask is because headers seem to result in a low end torque loss from what I've read and talked to people about (although slight, the loss the there) since boost drops a bit.

So, you're saying the grunt down low increases and doesn't lose any torque whatsoever?
I just mentioned this on the thread about kleemans for sale. I said that I have decided to ditch the headers mod for me bc of hearing about the low end torque loss. It seems that everyone says that it is true...I don't know but will wait for responses from people who have experience with this. I will not listen to the companies, no offense guys, only the customers with pretty much stockish cars. I know that with pullies and throttle bodies etc. etc., that it should help. Only remembering what I have read and I have put headers on stockish cars and not much gain. I will listen some more though...I am no expert here...that's for sure.
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Old Jun 19, 2013 | 04:00 PM
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I just mentioned this on the thread about kleemans for sale. I said that I have decided to ditch the headers mod for me bc of hearing about the low end torque loss. It seems that everyone says that it is true...I don't know but will wait for responses from people who have experience with this. I will not listen to the companies, no offense guys, only the customers with pretty much stockish cars. I know that with pullies and throttle bodies etc. etc., that it should help. Only remembering what I have read and I have put headers on stockish cars and not much gain. I will listen some more though...I am no expert here...that's for sure.
Oh, I am not doubting the gains with long tubes. I've seen first hand how much power they gain. +35-40rwhp/tq is common.

My concern is the torque loss in the low range. Bone stock, the car has A LOT of low grunt. Opening up the exhaust, although gaining quite a bit in the mid and upper range, loses some in the low range.

I agree that I would rather hear guys with just headers on an otherwise stock car (stock pulley, stock tb etc.) will chime in. I am talking strictly headers and a tune.
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Old Jun 19, 2013 | 04:04 PM
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I Love my Mike pipes.. With that being said you are in Bruce's area I suggest you head over to TTM and ask him what he thinks.. I already know the answer.. He probably has the most knowledge on this pltform over anyone..

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Old Jun 19, 2013 | 04:05 PM
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See any torque loss? We do not BS when it comes to power gains. Here are a bunch of dynos done on stock cars and modded cars with my headers.









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Old Jun 19, 2013 | 04:12 PM
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look at my sig nuff said. only headers and cooling mods u will lose some tQ down low but who cares, u will still be making 500 or better to the wheels when it comes to TQ hopefully. plus MBH headers are sweet

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Old Jun 19, 2013 | 04:15 PM
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I Love my Mike pipes.. With that being said you are in Bruce's area I suggest you head over to TTM and ask him what he thinks.. I already know the answer.. He probably has the most knowledge on this pltform over anyone..

P.S. Look at my sig... Good luck..
I have spoken to Bruce a few times and was going to do it (still may go with them) but I have heard so many other things as well. I know that Bruce knows what he is doing, he tuned my car and it was a very good inexpensive plus. I will see him again when I am a little less busy but wanted to see the reaction here again. I even thought of doing MBH.

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So, you're saying the grunt down low increases and doesn't lose any torque whatsoever?
I installed the MBH headers not long ago and can give you my impression and observations. At part-throttle, low RPM (blower not engaged), the torque feels softer. A tune somewhat helps this as it seems to make the throttle map more sensitive. I think you grow accustom to it though.

I will say, the MBH headers - besides being eye candy - have a better, more exotic note than the Kleemann headers. I don't mean the note coming out the mufflers, but the sound coming out from underneath the car and through the firewall. You'll find yourself driving with the window down and radio off just to hear that sound emanating from the primaries.
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I installed the MBH headers not long ago and can give you my impression and observations. At part-throttle, low RPM (blower not engaged), the torque feels softer. A tune somewhat helps this as it seems to make the throttle map more sensitive. I think you grow accustom to it though.

I will say, the MBH headers - besides being eye candy - have a better, more exotic note than the Kleemann headers. I don't mean the note coming out the mufflers, but the sound coming out from underneath the car and through the firewall. You'll find yourself driving with the window down and radio off just to hear that sound emanating from the primaries.

What is your power opinion?
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How much do MBH headers cost? are there ever any group buy or sales?
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Old Jun 19, 2013 | 05:54 PM
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How much do MBH headers cost? are there ever any group buy or sales?
I'm putting a header and mid-section sale together tonight.
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Old Jun 19, 2013 | 06:09 PM
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I'm putting a header and mid-section sale together tonight.
patiently waiting.
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Why would you give a damn about losing low end torque? You race from 1000-3000? Hold a record for most low end torque on a e55? :roll eyes:
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