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!!!!!2003 E55 VS 2010 M6!!!!!

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Old 06-05-2013, 12:53 PM
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2003 e55 and Integra Type R
!!!!!2003 E55 VS 2010 M6!!!!!

Hey guys I'm going to be racing my friends M6 soon, he is 100% stock and I have full exhaust with cats/resonators deleted, I know he has 31 extra horses but I have 133 extra torque witch is a significantly more than him he is also 3900 and I'm 4100ish can someone gusstimate the out come or should a race or not race

Ps I have full exhaust that might make up for his extra 31hp and he is 230lbs I'm 130lbs
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You have full exhaust including headers? You should easily beat him, and if you don't have headers than your car isn't much faster than stock, you would still win though. Took me a 2 min. Worth of Google search to figure out how fast an m6 is btw.

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Originally Posted by forcefed4door
You have full exhaust including headers? You should easily beat him, and if you don't have headers than your car isn't much faster than stock, you would still win though. Took me a 2 min. Worth of Google search to figure out how fast an m6 is btw.
I forgot to mention I don't have headers its custom exhaust what do you think?
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Stock to stock you should win.......
........as long as your IC pump is 100%.
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100 lb difference between drivers? That's worth some hp right there.
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heres my car with dead IC pump vs my friends M6. I had a passenger he didn't. I'm pretty sure you'll win.

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You will get spanked....
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You will get spanked....
? how you figure?
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You made the thread title look so exciting I thought I was going to see something crazy in here.
You will win unless you start in 3rd or something lol.
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Originally Posted by JACK PRESTON
? how you figure?
Because he is asking the question ....

If he had any real mods like headers, pulley, tune, split cooling, then it would be a very different story...
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Originally Posted by E55Dimon
You made the thread title look so exciting I thought I was going to see something crazy in here.
You will win unless you start in 3rd or something lol.
lol I had the same first reaction. With all the exclamation marks and all I was like damnn! a race video lol and then I came here , I was like , oh okay so he's preparing for it.
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Because he is asking the question ....

If he had any real mods like headers, pulley, tune, split cooling, then it would be a very different story...
still dont get it hill walk him easy stock with a good working pump.
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lol I had the same first reaction. With all the exclamation marks and all I was like damnn! a race video lol and then I came here , I was like , oh okay so he's preparing for it.
Yeah. Thread titles and topics have been a mess for a while and a lot of us are wtf about it silently lol
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Originally Posted by E55Dimon
Yeah. Thread titles and topics have been a mess for a while and a lot of us are wtf about it silently lol
My bad guys i apologize for the miss led title i promise i will post up my video as soon as soon as we run i will record with my cell phone or cam corded again my bad lol
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Run him from a dig or slow roll (<30mph) and you should have him. Leave it in 'S' in the correct gear and let the car shift.

The M5/M6s have great gearing from freeway speeds into the triple digits. Up to 110/120 from a dig/slow roll, he's all yours - given your IC pump is in optimal condition.

Good luck and stay safe!
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Leave it in 'S' in the correct gear and let the car shift.
This is kind of important. I think most people just cruise down the road with the car in S with it in whatever gear it was in (probably 4th cruising at like 45mph) and then punch it when the race starts and the car then has to downshift to 2nd gear. That takes time to happen where you aren't rocketing ahead, you then also have to possibly contend with a traction problem from the jolt of the downshift (say starting from 35-45mph) where traction control will flash a little not giving you all the power right off the go.

So if you leave it in S mode but hit the stick or button to downshift the car in to 2nd gear so it is already in the gear you need it to be in then it just surges forward when you stomp on the gas and there is no delay giving another car any kind of advantage then since you are still in S mode even though you downshifted, the car will do the shifting when it needs to.
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^ Exactly.
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Originally Posted by urbamworm
This is kind of important. I think most people just cruise down the road with the car in S with it in whatever gear it was in (probably 4th cruising at like 45mph) and then punch it when the race starts and the car then has to downshift to 2nd gear. That takes time to happen where you aren't rocketing ahead, you then also have to possibly contend with a traction problem from the jolt of the downshift (say starting from 35-45mph) where traction control will flash a little not giving you all the power right off the go.

So if you leave it in S mode but hit the stick or button to downshift the car in to 2nd gear so it is already in the gear you need it to be in then it just surges forward when you stomp on the gas and there is no delay giving another car any kind of advantage then since you are still in S mode even though you downshifted, the car will do the shifting when it needs to.
I thought if you leave the car in S and put the car in a gear (e.g. 2nd), then all you really are doing is telling the car the max gear to shift to is 2nd ??? I usually drive around in S mode and D(rive) and then when having fun, switch to Manual and take ESP off.
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I'd also suggest doing the sneaky ECU reset and then driving the car hard a few times before the race (obviously, let it cool down properly before the actual race). That way the tranny adapts to the aggressive driving and you're more prepared tranny-wise.
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Originally Posted by cij911
I thought if you leave the car in S and put the car in a gear (e.g. 2nd), then all you really are doing is telling the car the max gear to shift to is 2nd ??? I usually drive around in S mode and D(rive) and then when having fun, switch to Manual and take ESP off.
There is way to much of a delay in shifting when in manual mode. Keep in sport drop to second gear and go from there. The car will upshift regardless on its own just before red line. It's a nice feature and learned that from forum members a few weeks ago.
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This is funny. But I've never raced (street or track) in S mode. I always race in manual and do my own shifting.
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Originally Posted by RedBullJnky
This is funny. But I've never raced (street or track) in S mode. I always race in manual and do my own shifting.
That just means you'll be faster if you do it in S mode.

There's no human on earth than can shift better than the machine itself.
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Please elaborate on how S mode is faster.

If you want to get technical , in M mode the trans is programmed by amg to shift milliseconds faster than in S mode.
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How is M mode shifting milliseconds faster? The human hand is controlling when it shifts - other things like hitting redline etc. come into play.

I'm sticking to S mode being the best for racing. I've never raced in M mode only in S and car definitely shifts quicker on its own than me manually pressing the button.

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