M113 (55 Series) Engine Block
07-13-2013, 07:48 PM
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I don't understand. You said you know they are different. Please enlighten us with your vast knowledge. Are they different because of the part numbers stamped on them?
And since you want to keep going off topic. How many failed pulleys have you sold and how many have you paid to repair the damages on???
And since you want to keep going off topic. How many failed pulleys have you sold and how many have you paid to repair the damages on???
07-13-2013, 07:49 PM
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Some of the stamps #s, are related to the factory production line of the product it self, even if we got a different #s,
this is NOT mean we have a different parts....!!
I believe all M113 has the same identical basic Block,
maybe the difference between them is brackets or something can be made in the M113 block, that can be capable
fitment to the M113K....!!
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07-13-2013, 07:54 PM
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But I think based on my previous post you can get your answer. Good & important point Ahmad,
Some of the stamps #s, are related to the factory production line of the product it self, even if we got a different #s,
this is NOT mean we have a different parts....!!
I believe all M113 has the same identical basic Block,
maybe the difference between them is brackets or something can be made in the M113 block, that can be capable
fitment to the M113K....!!
ZAYED,,
Some of the stamps #s, are related to the factory production line of the product it self, even if we got a different #s,
this is NOT mean we have a different parts....!!
I believe all M113 has the same identical basic Block,
maybe the difference between them is brackets or something can be made in the M113 block, that can be capable
fitment to the M113K....!!
ZAYED,,
07-13-2013, 07:55 PM
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07-13-2013, 08:00 PM
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07-13-2013, 08:02 PM
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So what's the difference?
07-13-2013, 08:35 PM
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Oil squirters to start would probably not be found in the NA m113.
Whats the big secret about the differences that need to said privately?
Whats the big secret about the differences that need to said privately?
07-13-2013, 08:46 PM
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Exactly, why so secretive?
Anything bolted to a 55k block can be bolted to a NA 55 block. Heads, timing cover, trans, oil pan, etc etc. I've done it. There may be differences but it won't prevent you from interchanging parts. I should have kept my old blocks. Your part number doesn't match what was posted for the 55k. You must have a knockoff version lol jk
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07-13-2013, 11:56 PM
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No big secret was given here privately! Shardul has confirmed the part numbers for the blocks as he promised in his early post, in addition he explained the differences between the two blocks lays in the material and coating of the sleeves beside the squirters.
Now the question is, can the NA Block “Just the block” with M113K internals bolted to M113K motor, handle the boost of the blower? Maybe, Blackbenzz has the answer, since he interchanged parts between the two motors.
Now the question is, can the NA Block “Just the block” with M113K internals bolted to M113K motor, handle the boost of the blower? Maybe, Blackbenzz has the answer, since he interchanged parts between the two motors.
07-14-2013, 01:02 AM
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No big secret was given here privately! Shardul has confirmed the part numbers for the blocks as he promised in his early post, in addition he explained the differences between the two blocks lays in the material and coating of the sleeves beside the squirters.
Now the question is, can the NA Block “Just the block” with M113K internals bolted to M113K motor, handle the boost of the blower? Maybe, Blackbenzz has the answer, since he interchanged parts between the two motors.
Now the question is, can the NA Block “Just the block” with M113K internals bolted to M113K motor, handle the boost of the blower? Maybe, Blackbenzz has the answer, since he interchanged parts between the two motors.
Yes. I'm Running A Weistec SC On Stock Na Motor. 55K Rods And Pistons Fit In Na Block. Its Been Done Several Times.
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07-14-2013, 01:30 AM
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The N/A M113 & M113K sharing the same pistons standard size which is (97.25mm), with maybe different coat,
i hope im not wrong....?!?!
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i hope im not wrong....?!?!
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07-14-2013, 02:21 AM
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I too was impressed to learn that the NA M113 had oil squirters just like it's bigger brother the 55K. Just goes to show how much abuse the 55 NA was built to take!
The following is AMG's description of their NA M113 creation.
To reach such high-performance characteristics, the high-displacement, lightweight V8 unit, which only weights around 368 lb, features several inventions from racing sports. Thus, the engine is equipped with racing-type forged aluminum pistons for better compression of the air-gasoline mix in the combustion chamber. To always ensure optimum cylinder charging and thus an optimal combustion, an established feature from motor sports, a variable intake manifold, as well as a twin-tract intake system was installed in the engine. Since all these measures led to higher motor temperatures, the cooling of the engine and especially the pistons was redesigned as well. The specially developed oil spray nozzles reliably cool the pistons, even under extreme conditions and full load. In the end, the technicians at Mercedes-AMG increased the engine's performance enormously, contributing to the dynamics and driving pleasure of the four high-end Mercedes-Benz models.
The following is AMG's description of their NA M113 creation.
To reach such high-performance characteristics, the high-displacement, lightweight V8 unit, which only weights around 368 lb, features several inventions from racing sports. Thus, the engine is equipped with racing-type forged aluminum pistons for better compression of the air-gasoline mix in the combustion chamber. To always ensure optimum cylinder charging and thus an optimal combustion, an established feature from motor sports, a variable intake manifold, as well as a twin-tract intake system was installed in the engine. Since all these measures led to higher motor temperatures, the cooling of the engine and especially the pistons was redesigned as well. The specially developed oil spray nozzles reliably cool the pistons, even under extreme conditions and full load. In the end, the technicians at Mercedes-AMG increased the engine's performance enormously, contributing to the dynamics and driving pleasure of the four high-end Mercedes-Benz models.
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07-14-2013, 03:07 AM
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Wasn't me!
I picked him up at the airport and partied with him all weekend, then dropped him off at the airport.
But I do know a lot of people down here, and I know names.
I picked him up at the airport and partied with him all weekend, then dropped him off at the airport.
But I do know a lot of people down here, and I know names.
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07-14-2013, 08:42 AM
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I know the crank shaft is different, just don't know how it differs.
I assume the profile is different but I'm just guessing.
I assume the profile is different but I'm just guessing.
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07-14-2013, 09:49 AM
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Did you sleeve the motor? I would sleeve it , if I was running high boost .
It is always interesting to see how much these engines can take with stock internals before they start to give up.
07-14-2013, 10:29 AM
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I've got nothing really to contribute besides that I'm in the manufacturing business of machining parts. We have parts that we make which have different part numbers for later assembly while all machining is exactly the same. A prime example that jumps in my head is an oil pump for a jet engine which everything is identical except one o ring in assembly but it is two entirely different part numbers from the start.
