W211 AMG Discuss the W211 AMG's such as the E55 and the E63

M113 (55 Series) Engine Block

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
Rate Thread
 
Old Jul 13, 2013 | 12:05 PM
  #1  
superstar's Avatar
Thread Starter
Super Member
 
Joined: Aug 2004
Posts: 606
Likes: 1
03 R230 SL55 / 94 W124 E500
M113 (55 Series) Engine Block

I was just wondering if the engine block (Crankcase) in the M113 NA (55) is any different than the M113K (55)? Are they identically the same?
I know the pistons, rods, crank ,and cylinder heads are different. I searched through and could not find a definite answer for this.
Reply
Old Jul 13, 2013 | 12:07 PM
  #2  
Sir-Boost-a-Lot's Avatar
MBWorld Fanatic!
iTrader: (1)
 
Joined: Jan 2012
Posts: 2,092
Likes: 29
From: Orlando
1967 Pro Touring turbo LSX Camaro
An AMG 5.5 NA?
Reply
Old Jul 13, 2013 | 12:16 PM
  #3  
SterlingE55's Avatar
MBWorld Fanatic!
 
Joined: Jun 2009
Posts: 1,693
Likes: 9
From: Houston, TX
2006 E55, 2012 Jeep SRT, 2008 G37s 6MT (The Mrs.), 2005 Explorer
Off topic. That W124 looks sharp.
Reply
Old Jul 13, 2013 | 12:28 PM
  #4  
shardul's Avatar
Former Vendor of MBWorld
iTrader: (1)
 
Joined: May 2008
Posts: 12,139
Likes: 295
From: Houston
2003 W211 E55, 2003 W220 S600
yes they are different
Reply
Old Jul 13, 2013 | 12:45 PM
  #5  
cm60k's Avatar
MBWorld Fanatic!
15 Year Member
Photogenic
Photoriffic
Shutterbug
 
Joined: Aug 2006
Posts: 7,053
Likes: 398
From: A.D., U.A.E
2000 (W202 C200) & 2000 (W202 C55)
Originally Posted by superstar
I was just wondering if the engine block (Crankcase) in the M113 NA (55) is any different than the M113K (55)? Are they identically the same?
I know the pistons, rods, crank ,and cylinder heads are different. I searched through and could not find a definite answer for this.
Good ques.,

Beside of that; is the N/A M113 Crankcase can be swappable with an M113K....??

ZAYED,,
Reply
Old Jul 13, 2013 | 02:05 PM
  #6  
superstar's Avatar
Thread Starter
Super Member
 
Joined: Aug 2004
Posts: 606
Likes: 1
03 R230 SL55 / 94 W124 E500
Originally Posted by SterlingE55
Off topic. That W124 looks sharp.
Thanks!
Reply
Old Jul 13, 2013 | 02:11 PM
  #7  
superstar's Avatar
Thread Starter
Super Member
 
Joined: Aug 2004
Posts: 606
Likes: 1
03 R230 SL55 / 94 W124 E500
Originally Posted by cm60k
Good ques.,

Beside of that; is the N/A M113 Crankcase can be swappable with an M113K....??

ZAYED,,
If it is different as shardul says, then they are not swappable.
Reply
Old Jul 13, 2013 | 02:43 PM
  #8  
blackbenzz's Avatar
Out Of Control!!
20 Year Member
Liked
Loved
Community Favorite
 
Joined: Feb 2003
Posts: 13,489
Likes: 96
haters crazy
Originally Posted by shardul
yes they are different
You Sure? What's Different About The Block? I've Pulled Apart Both Motors
Reply
MB World Stories

The Best of Mercedes & AMG

story-0

6 Mercedes Models That Did NOT Age Well (But Are Somehow Still Cool)

 Verdad Gallardo
story-1

Manual Mercedes? 6 Times Sindelfingen Let Drivers Have All The Fun

 Verdad Gallardo
story-2

Mercedes SLR McLaren 722 S Is Extremely Rare Example Modified by McLaren

 Verdad Gallardo
story-3

8 Classic Boxy Mercedes Designs That Have Aged Like Fine Wine

 Verdad Gallardo
story-4

Flawlessly Restored Mercedes 190E Evo II Heads to Auction

 Verdad Gallardo
story-5

Electric Mercedes C-Class Unveiled: 11 Things You Need to Know

 Verdad Gallardo
story-6

Mercedes EQS Gets A Major Update: Everything You Need to Know

 Verdad Gallardo
story-7

5 Underrated Mercedes-Benz Models That Don't Get the Love They Deserve

 Verdad Gallardo
story-8

Mercedes 300D Has Pushed Well Past 1 Million Miles and It Ain't Stopping

 Verdad Gallardo
story-9

10 Most Reliable Mercedes-Benz Models You Can Buy Used

 Verdad Gallardo
Old Jul 13, 2013 | 03:15 PM
  #9  
shardul's Avatar
Former Vendor of MBWorld
iTrader: (1)
 
Joined: May 2008
Posts: 12,139
Likes: 295
From: Houston
2003 W211 E55, 2003 W220 S600
Originally Posted by blackbenzz
You Sure? What's Different About The Block? I've Pulled Apart Both Motors
Then post your findings and I will edit my previous post

Last edited by shardul; Jul 13, 2013 at 03:17 PM.
Reply
Old Jul 13, 2013 | 06:00 PM
  #10  
blackbenzz's Avatar
Out Of Control!!
20 Year Member
Liked
Loved
Community Favorite
 
Joined: Feb 2003
Posts: 13,489
Likes: 96
haters crazy
You Already Edit Your Posts As Is. If You Want To Talk **** Be A Man About It. Don't Edit. You Said They're Different And I Asked What's Different.
Reply
Old Jul 13, 2013 | 06:25 PM
  #11  
shardul's Avatar
Former Vendor of MBWorld
iTrader: (1)
 
Joined: May 2008
Posts: 12,139
Likes: 295
From: Houston
2003 W211 E55, 2003 W220 S600
Since you have pulled apart both motors why don't you post. Seems like lately you are running your mouth more than your 10 yrs old plus car lol
Reply
Old Jul 13, 2013 | 06:37 PM
  #12  
blackbenzz's Avatar
Out Of Control!!
20 Year Member
Liked
Loved
Community Favorite
 
Joined: Feb 2003
Posts: 13,489
Likes: 96
haters crazy
Originally Posted by shardul
Since you have pulled apart both motors why don't you post. Seems like lately you are running your mouth more than your 10 yrs old plus car lol
Why do you act like such a little kid? You stated the blocks are different. How are they different? It's a simple question.

My CLK55 may be 10+years old but it will still whoop your car all day long. Bring it to the next rental and I will run you for money. Oh wait you haven't even come close to my times from 3 years ago . All talk as usual. SALESMAN, that's all you are. Don't forget I also have an E55 like you as well as other cars.

PS both your cars are 10 years old too LMFAO!!!

Btw, there is no such word as reputated in the english language

Last edited by blackbenzz; Jul 13, 2013 at 06:41 PM.
Reply
Old Jul 13, 2013 | 06:41 PM
  #13  
shardul's Avatar
Former Vendor of MBWorld
iTrader: (1)
 
Joined: May 2008
Posts: 12,139
Likes: 295
From: Houston
2003 W211 E55, 2003 W220 S600
Originally Posted by blackbenzz
Why do you act like such a little kid? You stated the blocks are different. How are they different? It's a simple question.

My CLK55 may be 10+years old but it will still whoop your car all day long. Bring it to the next rental and I will run you for money. Oh wait you haven't even come close to my times from 3 years ago . All talk as usual. SALESMAN, that's all you are. Don't forget I also have an E55 like you as well as other cars.

Btw, there is no such word as reputated in the english language
Lol I never said my car is faster than yours.

All talk as usual HATER, that's all you are lol
Hehe I love it how you get butt hurt all the time

Thanks for the correction clown
Reply
Old Jul 13, 2013 | 06:48 PM
  #14  
superstar's Avatar
Thread Starter
Super Member
 
Joined: Aug 2004
Posts: 606
Likes: 1
03 R230 SL55 / 94 W124 E500
Hey guys.. Cool it down. I just need an answer for the question. Shardul, please elaborate more in the differences between the blocks.
Reply
Old Jul 13, 2013 | 06:59 PM
  #15  
shardul's Avatar
Former Vendor of MBWorld
iTrader: (1)
 
Joined: May 2008
Posts: 12,139
Likes: 295
From: Houston
2003 W211 E55, 2003 W220 S600
Originally Posted by superstar
Hey guys.. Cool it down. I just need an answer for the question. Shardul, please elaborate more in the differences between the blocks.
Yes sir, I will send you a PM, latest by tomorrow, with all the part numbers.
Reply
Old Jul 13, 2013 | 07:03 PM
  #16  
cm60k's Avatar
MBWorld Fanatic!
15 Year Member
Photogenic
Photoriffic
Shutterbug
 
Joined: Aug 2006
Posts: 7,053
Likes: 398
From: A.D., U.A.E
2000 (W202 C200) & 2000 (W202 C55)
Hey guys, its NOT worth it,

You both are a most important Professionals here, we always learning from you,

Considering that as an old friends joke.....

ZAYED,,
Reply
Old Jul 13, 2013 | 07:07 PM
  #17  
superstar's Avatar
Thread Starter
Super Member
 
Joined: Aug 2004
Posts: 606
Likes: 1
03 R230 SL55 / 94 W124 E500
Originally Posted by shardul
Yes sir, I will send you a PM, latest by tomorrow, with all the part numbers.
Part numbers are different:
M113K = A 113 010 77 05
M113 N.A= A 113 010 89 05

Beside the part numbers, are there any physical differences between the two blocks?
Reply
Old Jul 13, 2013 | 07:19 PM
  #18  
blackbenzz's Avatar
Out Of Control!!
20 Year Member
Liked
Loved
Community Favorite
 
Joined: Feb 2003
Posts: 13,489
Likes: 96
haters crazy
Originally Posted by shardul
Lol I never said my car is faster than yours.

All talk as usual HATER, that's all you are lol
Hehe I love it how you get butt hurt all the time

Thanks for the correction clown
My last comment to you is that I am laughing and I'm not sure if you know what hater means. Look at your 10+year old car comment, then look in the mirror.. you might find a hater. You have nothig for me to hate on anyway Read what I drive
Reply
Old Jul 13, 2013 | 07:19 PM
  #19  
blackbenzz's Avatar
Out Of Control!!
20 Year Member
Liked
Loved
Community Favorite
 
Joined: Feb 2003
Posts: 13,489
Likes: 96
haters crazy
Originally Posted by superstar
Part numbers are different:
M113K = A 113 010 77 05
M113 N.A= A 113 010 89 05

Beside the part numbers, are there any physical differences between the two blocks?
Excellent question What are you trying to do? The parts are interchangeable. I've put 55k heads on a NA 55 and vice versa. Same thing can be done with rods and pistons. Many oil pan configurations can be bolted to either. 722.6 can be bolted to either. I can do more than look part numbers up

Last edited by blackbenzz; Jul 13, 2013 at 07:23 PM.
Reply
Old Jul 13, 2013 | 07:24 PM
  #20  
shardul's Avatar
Former Vendor of MBWorld
iTrader: (1)
 
Joined: May 2008
Posts: 12,139
Likes: 295
From: Houston
2003 W211 E55, 2003 W220 S600
Originally Posted by cm60k
Hey guys, its NOT worth it,

You both are a most important Professionals here, we always learning from you,

Considering that as an old friends joke.....

ZAYED,,

Mbworld should have a like and unlike icon for each post
Reply
Old Jul 13, 2013 | 07:25 PM
  #21  
shardul's Avatar
Former Vendor of MBWorld
iTrader: (1)
 
Joined: May 2008
Posts: 12,139
Likes: 295
From: Houston
2003 W211 E55, 2003 W220 S600
Originally Posted by blackbenzz
Excellent question What are you trying to do? The parts are interchangeable. I've put 55k heads on a NA 55 and vice versa. Same thing can be done with rods and pistons. Many oil pan configurations can be bolted to either. 722.6 can be bolted to either. I can do more than look part numbers up
refresh my memory as to how many motors you have blown?
Oh I forgot all your misfortunes are blamed on tuners LOL
Reply
Old Jul 13, 2013 | 07:28 PM
  #22  
blackbenzz's Avatar
Out Of Control!!
20 Year Member
Liked
Loved
Community Favorite
 
Joined: Feb 2003
Posts: 13,489
Likes: 96
haters crazy
Originally Posted by shardul
refresh my memory as to how many motors you have blown?
Oh I forgot all your misfortunes are blamed on tuners LOL
Why don't you answer the guys question? Remember you were speaking of a hater? You're building a strong case... against yourself. You want to see blown motors look at your boss Exotic metal. I've blown 1 from too much power and 1 was blown from a tuner (two different cars)
Reply
Old Jul 13, 2013 | 07:32 PM
  #23  
shardul's Avatar
Former Vendor of MBWorld
iTrader: (1)
 
Joined: May 2008
Posts: 12,139
Likes: 295
From: Houston
2003 W211 E55, 2003 W220 S600
HAHA now just blanket statements. Keep it coming
Reply
Old Jul 13, 2013 | 07:36 PM
  #24  
blackbenzz's Avatar
Out Of Control!!
20 Year Member
Liked
Loved
Community Favorite
 
Joined: Feb 2003
Posts: 13,489
Likes: 96
haters crazy
Originally Posted by shardul
HAHA now just blanket statements. Keep it coming
I don't understand. You said you know they are different. Please enlighten us with your vast knowledge. Are they different because of the part numbers stamped on them?

And since you want to keep going off topic. How many failed pulleys have you sold and how many have you paid to repair the damages on???
Reply
Old Jul 13, 2013 | 07:45 PM
  #25  
superstar's Avatar
Thread Starter
Super Member
 
Joined: Aug 2004
Posts: 606
Likes: 1
03 R230 SL55 / 94 W124 E500
Originally Posted by blackbenzz
Excellent question What are you trying to do? The parts are interchangeable. I've put 55k heads on a NA 55 and vice versa. Same thing can be done with rods and pistons. Many oil pan configurations can be bolted to either. 722.6 can be bolted to either. I can do more than look part numbers up
So the cylinder crankcase from M113 NA can be bolted to M113K engine? I am asking this because I was planning to get a M113 NA block ”dust cheap” and beef it up with forged internals and bolt it in M113K motor.
Reply


You have already rated this thread Rating: Thread Rating: 0 votes,  average.


All times are GMT -4. The time now is 07:28 PM.

story-0
6 Mercedes Models That Did NOT Age Well (But Are Somehow Still Cool)

Slideshow: Not every Mercedes design becomes timeless, some feel stuck in the era they came from.

By Verdad Gallardo | 2026-05-12 18:09:07


VIEW MORE
story-1
Manual Mercedes? 6 Times Sindelfingen Let Drivers Have All The Fun

Slideshow: Yes, Mercedes built manual cars, and some of them are far more interesting than you'd expect.

By Verdad Gallardo | 2026-05-02 12:36:58


VIEW MORE
story-2
Mercedes SLR McLaren 722 S Is Extremely Rare Example Modified by McLaren

Slideshow: A one-of-one U.S.-spec Mercedes-Benz SLR McLaren Roadster became even rarer after a factory-backed transformation at McLaren's headquarters.

By Verdad Gallardo | 2026-04-29 11:19:28


VIEW MORE
story-3
8 Classic Boxy Mercedes Designs That Have Aged Like Fine Wine

Slideshow: Before curves took over, Mercedes mastered the art of the straight line, and some of those shapes still look right today.

By Verdad Gallardo | 2026-04-25 12:05:49


VIEW MORE
story-4
Flawlessly Restored Mercedes 190E Evo II Heads to Auction

Slideshow: The 190E Evolution II shows how a homologation necessity became a six-figure collector icon.

By Verdad Gallardo | 2026-04-22 17:53:47


VIEW MORE
story-5
Electric Mercedes C-Class Unveiled: 11 Things You Need to Know

Slideshow: Mercedes is turning one of its core nameplates electric, and the details show just how serious this shift is.

By Verdad Gallardo | 2026-04-21 13:58:06


VIEW MORE
story-6
Mercedes EQS Gets A Major Update: Everything You Need to Know

Slideshow: Faster charging, longer range, and a controversial steer-by-wire system define the latest evolution of Mercedes-Benz EQS.

By Verdad Gallardo | 2026-04-15 10:35:34


VIEW MORE
story-7
5 Underrated Mercedes-Benz Models That Don't Get the Love They Deserve

Slideshow: These overlooked Mercedes-Benz models never got the spotlight, but they quietly delivered more than most remember.

By Verdad Gallardo | 2026-04-13 19:35:45


VIEW MORE
story-8
Mercedes 300D Has Pushed Well Past 1 Million Miles and It Ain't Stopping

Slideshow: A well-used 1991 Mercedes-Benz 300D with more than one million miles is now looking for a new owner, and it still appears ready for more.

By Verdad Gallardo | 2026-04-10 10:05:15


VIEW MORE
story-9
10 Most Reliable Mercedes-Benz Models You Can Buy Used

Slideshow: From bulletproof sedans to surprisingly tough SUVs, these Mercedes models proved that the three-pointed star can go the distance.

By Verdad Gallardo | 2026-04-08 09:55:49


VIEW MORE