Buying a high-mileage W211...




Using the below model as an example (fully loaded with pano, nav, and basically everything short of designo; 117k miles; $17.5k), would it be worth paying $5-$8k less than an equal-ish model with only 60k miles, assuming that something's gonna break and it WILL be expensive? Especially in a situation like this, where it's from a local dealer where I could potentially get free loaners from when/if my indie can't/won't work on it?
To be completely honest, the monthly payment amount doesn't matter, as I'm going to be paying this car off in two years max, so it's mainly just the bottom line on the capital balance (plus any potential, future, large expenditures on repairs) that are my main concerns. Also, I'm assuming there aren't any reliable extended warranty companies left out there for cars this "old", in which case, bring on the 99k mile cars ;-)
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Last edited by evilsaint; Aug 30, 2013 at 05:05 PM.
1. Its been sorted to be able to put those miles on it, and the motor and drive train will be reliable up to 250,000 I believe, but the rest not so much.
2. You will be the last owner nobody wants a 185,000 mile E55 in the US. Especially with the new BiTurbo making MASSIVE POWER.
3. The cost to maintain the car is the same if it has 30,000 or 150,000 miles. Is it worth spending $1000 on struts if they fail and the car has 150,000 miles. What about rotor replacement @ $500+ a rotor? (My E63 is $800 per) Car is only worth $10,000 with those miles at best and the repair is 10% of the value + without labor!
4. CL65 just the coil packs on 1 cylinder bank is $1200+ and you need two and that's without labor. CL/SL/S all have issues when diagnosing the ABC suspension and its costly, not to mention you need STAR.
I would buy a high mile Mercedes AMG only if I am planning on driving it into the ground, or being the last owner.
Last edited by W109 W211 6.2L; Aug 30, 2013 at 05:47 PM.





1. Its been sorted to be able to put those miles on it, and the motor and drive train will be reliable up to 250,000 I believe, but the rest not so much.
2. You will be the last owner nobody wants a 185,000 mile E55 in the US. Especially with the new BiTurbo making MASSIVE POWER.
3. The cost to maintain the car is the same if it has 30,000 or 150,000 miles. Is it worth spending $1000 on struts if they fail and the car has 150,000 miles. What about rotor replacement @ $500+ a rotor? (My E63 is $800 per) Car is only worth $10,000 with those miles at best and the repair is 10% of the value + without labor!
4. CL65 just the coil packs on 1 cylinder bank is $1200+ and you need two and that's without labor. CL/SL/S all have issues when diagnosing the ABC suspension and its costly, not to mention you need STAR.
I would buy a high mile Mercedes AMG only if I am planning on driving it into the ground, or being the last owner.
Also, my C32 went from being worth 20k+ 5.5 years ago to less than 5k now (before needing a trunk repaint and new shocks), and I'm fully intent on trading it in/CarMax'ing it for part of my down payment, even if I have to take it on the chin. That being said, I'm fully alright with doing nearly the same thing down the road with the E55 or whatever car I end up buying (or just driving it into the ground, as you suggested).
I can afford to buy a used one of the new bi-turbos, but I want to pay off some other debt (which a larger car payment might prevent) and having a (big) car payment, or having to sell off the *really* nice car for a ****box, in two years for grad school would really suck. And good call on the ABC suspension plus V12 maintenance cost obsurdity - I totally forgot about those. Rules out the CL and/or V12s for sure.
Anyway, sorry for the wall'o'text, what I really wanted to ask is - do I have to worry about a massive bill for the navi / heated/cooled seats / etc going out in a year on a higher-mileage car, or is that just as likely on a low-mileage one, simply because of the age of the car?
Last edited by evilsaint; Aug 30, 2013 at 07:16 PM.




Honestly though, even without a service history and/or PPI, I wouldn't be worried at all about the engine or transmission. However, I'd be scared ****less about the electronics/navi/seat heaters/coolers or something else insanely expensive going out. Am I just worrying unnecessarily about the big stuff like this going out? I mean, a 2005 or 2006 is not THAT old of a car...
Also, any chance either of you guys know if there's any chance of getting a respectable extended warranty for an 05/06 E55 short of paying way too much for one from CarMax?




1. Its been sorted to be able to put those miles on it, and the motor and drive train will be reliable up to 250,000 I believe, but the rest not so much.
2. You will be the last owner nobody wants a 185,000 mile E55 in the US. Especially with the new BiTurbo making MASSIVE POWER.
3. The cost to maintain the car is the same if it has 30,000 or 150,000 miles. Is it worth spending $1000 on struts if they fail and the car has 150,000 miles. What about rotor replacement @ $500+ a rotor? (My E63 is $800 per) Car is only worth $10,000 with those miles at best and the repair is 10% of the value + without labor!
4. CL65 just the coil packs on 1 cylinder bank is $1200+ and you need two and that's without labor. CL/SL/S all have issues when diagnosing the ABC suspension and its costly, not to mention you need STAR.
I would buy a high mile Mercedes AMG only if I am planning on driving it into the ground, or being the last owner.
THIS!
Every car goes through a 100k mile cycle. Buying a high mileage one would mean looking deeper and deeper into the service history. My e55 just turned 102k and ive already done (eng + trans + rear diff flush, intercooler pump, spark plugs, coil packs, fuel pump) all of this cost me $700 I did the labor. Next thing is brakes (1K+) all 4 corners.
All cars are equally chanced man, a 30k mileage e55 might have more problems than a 100k+. If you can do stuff yourself and read and understand photos there are plenty of DIY to fix anything on the car. There are thousands of used parts sellers and you can get anything with low miles USED CHEAP CHEAP CHEAP. Don't let these crack pots on the forums ruin the chance of you owning a nice car for 1/4 of the price they paid
Just remember that maintenance on MBZ vehicles are a grip
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as for winter, C mode is where you want to be. it starts you off in 2nd gear, less aggressive shifts, etc.
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Using the below model as an example (fully loaded with pano, nav, and basically everything short of designo; 117k miles; $17.5k), would it be worth paying $5-$8k less than an equal-ish model with only 60k miles, assuming that something's gonna break and it WILL be expensive? Especially in a situation like this, where it's from a local dealer where I could potentially get free loaners from when/if my indie can't/won't work on it?
To be completely honest, the monthly payment amount doesn't matter, as I'm going to be paying this car off in two years max, so it's mainly just the bottom line on the capital balance (plus any potential, future, large expenditures on repairs) that are my main concerns. Also, I'm assuming there aren't any reliable extended warranty companies left out there for cars this "old", in which case, bring on the 99k mile cars ;-)
http://www.kbb.com/cars-for-sale/det...ngid=348534878
Last edited by 60nomad; Aug 30, 2013 at 07:55 PM.




https://mbworld.org/forums/w211-amg/...-issues-2.html
as for winter, C mode is where you want to be. it starts you off in 2nd gear, less aggressive shifts, etc.




Btw, I have tons of tools and a garage to do work on my car in/with, plus plenty of DIY experience and the vast knowledge base of this amazing website, so I can do brakes/oil/etc myself easily and save money in that sense. $2000 for a brake job, stealership? Blow me.
I blew my trans the 2nd week I had the car and the warranty company paid for a new trans, torque converter, a leaky rear diff and my rental car - all for $250.




I blew my trans the 2nd week I had the car and the warranty company paid for a new trans, torque converter, a leaky rear diff and my rental car - all for $250.
Btw, I have tons of tools and a garage to do work on my car in/with, plus plenty of DIY experience and the vast knowledge base of this amazing website, so I can do brakes/oil/etc myself easily and save money in that sense. $2000 for a brake job, stealership? Blow me.
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Last edited by 60nomad; Aug 31, 2013 at 08:54 AM.
Either go to work now if you have experience or an undergrad that can get you paid, or wait until you're done with school, fully employed, etc. to buy a used high-end German luxury car. I have two in this vein, and they're going to need repairs along with get terrible gas mileage. As alluring as the low price of entry is, these aren't things you want to have to contend with when you're not making money.




Either go to work now if you have experience or an undergrad that can get you paid, or wait until you're done with school, fully employed, etc. to buy a used high-end German luxury car. I have two in this vein, and they're going to need repairs along with get terrible gas mileage. As alluring as the low price of entry is, these aren't things you want to have to contend with when you're not making money.
Last edited by evilsaint; Aug 31, 2013 at 04:40 PM.




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I think I might be priced out of my current car buying "strategy" if I were to go with even a higher-mileage 2009 V, and that's before insurance, but the ease of getting a comprehensive warranty on the V might make up for that.




I love the better bang for my buck when it comes to modding with the W211, but I don't know if I'd even go past a tune + exhaust (so I don't end up losing my driver's license >_>), but the growl on that 6.2L is otherworldly, and I love the styling nearly as much as the W211.
Edit: correction, high 20s for 70-100k examples, and then the majority are in the 30s. Either way, not optimal.
One other thing to consider is the age of a car vs financing; a lot of banks and credit unions will only finance cars under a certain age (some are 8 years or newer.) May want to confirm when you apply for financing before finding a car.
Last edited by Tremek; Aug 31, 2013 at 08:24 PM.
Edit: correction, high 20s for 70-100k examples, and then the majority are in the 30s. Either way, not optimal.
One other thing to consider is the age of a car vs financing; a lot of banks and credit unions will only finance cars under a certain age (some are 8 years or newer.) May want to confirm when you apply for financing before finding a car.
Either way, before I bought my e55 I looked into e63's too and my opinion says to stay away from those early 6.3 motors.
Last edited by 60nomad; Aug 31, 2013 at 09:30 PM.
For what it's worth I bought my 100k E55 at the beginning of July and already had an Airmatic failure in spite of it being a very clean one owner car. Great car to drive but I can already see its never going to be easy on the pocketbook in spite of no payment. I also don't commute so my life is a little easier now.




For what it's worth I bought my 100k E55 at the beginning of July and already had an Airmatic failure in spite of it being a very clean one owner car. Great car to drive but I can already see its never going to be easy on the pocketbook in spite of no payment. I also don't commute so my life is a little easier now.
E500/550 is too slow as well, unless I were to throw a blower on it which would defeat my purposes/plan, and honestly, all season UHP tires do the trick decently enough with a disciplined right foot.And barely any commute - just ~30min in the 'burbs - and it's only going to get shorter if I move anywhere which will most definitely not be into the city. As per the cash outlay, it won't be a problem to take the trade-in/CarMax value for my C32 and then save that up to $10k or so in the bank, just so I can pay off the tax/title/doc fees (and maybe extended warranty) instead of rolling them into the loan. Extending that a little bit for snow tires shouldn't be a problem given my income.
tl;dr - my new position is finally paying me what I deserve after 11 years in the IT industry; I'm treating it like I'm still only getting paid $20/hr; money is not an issue.
Last edited by evilsaint; Sep 1, 2013 at 12:47 AM.




Edit: correction, high 20s for 70-100k examples, and then the majority are in the 30s. Either way, not optimal.
One other thing to consider is the age of a car vs financing; a lot of banks and credit unions will only finance cars under a certain age (some are 8 years or newer.) May want to confirm when you apply for financing before finding a car.
I'll go and search, but what teething problems did the 6.2s have?





Even if I end up paying off an W211 quickly, I know I'll get the mod bug and/or more will go wrong with it, which could be end up turning into what would amount to a car payment for a few months at a time anyway, just like that Airmatic you mentioned.
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