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Old Oct 16, 2013 | 03:38 AM
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Cool I think my SBC pump kicked the bucket

brake 3 times - sbc pump vibrates - slight vibration throughout the car - heavy vibration in brake pedal

it always happens after 3rd braking, nothing happens after second or first,

is it dying tho? btw went to MB dealership, was told that nothing was wrong with my pump


Thanks for your help guys!
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Old Oct 16, 2013 | 05:14 AM
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Did you get a work order from the dealer stating that there is no problem with the SBC system?

Also, has the brake fluid been changed on a regular basis (at least every 2 years)?

The SBC pump is under warranty for 10 years.
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Old Oct 16, 2013 | 06:12 AM
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I did, I brought my car there to check specifically for sbc/brake issue (no lights on a dash, just terrible vibrations and sound)

brake fluid was changed few months ago, dont have any previous maintenance history of a vehicle

i ran my car for codes at some indy shop and got few codes for sbc unit but unfortunately none of them were qualified for a 10 year warranty (there are only few codes that will get u warranty replacement - i guess only if pump fries or smth )
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Old Oct 16, 2013 | 08:09 AM
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That is normal for SBC, same thing happens in my car, when the pump is refilling, it will indeed send vibrations to the brake pedal.

They won't replace it until you get a red message on the dash saying "visit workshop" or "sbc failure" or such related to it.

Warranty on mine ends in 2014 and hopefully it'll either go before it and I get

new one or it just stays intact *fingers crossed*
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Old Oct 16, 2013 | 01:34 PM
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Originally Posted by viren.89
That is normal for SBC, same thing happens in my car, when the pump is refilling, it will indeed send vibrations to the brake pedal.

They won't replace it until you get a red message on the dash saying "visit workshop" or "sbc failure" or such related to it.

Warranty on mine ends in 2014 and hopefully it'll either go before it and I get

new one or it just stays intact *fingers crossed*
I'm getting the same thing with pump noise and brake pedal vibration on my 2005 E55. Was just going to bring it to the shop, good to know about the 10 year warranty. Does it every 20 minutes or so.
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Old Oct 16, 2013 | 02:00 PM
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It is the accumulator that goes bad and is replaced under the 10yr unlimited miles warranty campaign.
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Old Oct 16, 2013 | 04:20 PM
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Originally Posted by viren.89
That is normal for SBC, same thing happens in my car, when the pump is refilling, it will indeed send vibrations to the brake pedal.

They won't replace it until you get a red message on the dash saying "visit workshop" or "sbc failure" or such related to it.

Warranty on mine ends in 2014 and hopefully it'll either go before it and I get

new one or it just stays intact *fingers crossed*
Thanks a lot for your input man!

wish there was a chance to swap sbc pump for smth else like airmatic for coilovers
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Old Oct 16, 2013 | 04:36 PM
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Originally Posted by viren.89
That is normal for SBC, same thing happens in my car, when the pump is refilling, it will indeed send vibrations to the brake pedal.

They won't replace it until you get a red message on the dash saying "visit workshop" or "sbc failure" or such related to it.

Warranty on mine ends in 2014 and hopefully it'll either go before it and I get

new one or it just stays intact *fingers crossed*
THIS.

All of the SBC equipped cars will activate the SBC pump when the engine is running, and you pump the brakes 3 times with holding the pedal down on the last pump. Completely normal.

There is a dampener you can put inline by the pump to reduce noise and vibration if it bothers you.
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Originally Posted by billiards101
I'm getting the same thing with pump noise and brake pedal vibration on my 2005 E55. Was just going to bring it to the shop, good to know about the 10 year warranty. Does it every 20 minutes or so.
Originally Posted by viren.89
That is normal for SBC, same thing happens in my car, when the pump is refilling, it will indeed send vibrations to the brake pedal.

They won't replace it until you get a red message on the dash saying "visit workshop" or "sbc failure" or such related to it.

Warranty on mine ends in 2014 and hopefully it'll either go before it and I get

new one or it just stays intact *fingers crossed*
not true. mine was replaced my complaint was excessive frequent pulsation of the brake pedal, I did not have any warning messages on the instrument cluster.

Originally Posted by Benz-O-Rama
THIS.

All of the SBC equipped cars will activate the SBC pump when the engine is running, and you pump the brakes 3 times with holding the pedal down on the last pump. Completely normal.

There is a dampener you can put inline by the pump to reduce noise and vibration if it bothers you.
+1 on the vibration dampener.
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mine's dying and got visit workshop msg...
going to dealer next week for free fix...
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Actually, I don't think the engine needs to be running to activate it, now that I think about it.
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Appreciate responses guys... Is there a part # for dampener?

SHARDUL: the pulsation that u felt was just random? did you only feel it in a brake pedal or throughout the vehicle?


Originally Posted by Benz-O-Rama
Actually, I don't think the engine needs to be running to activate it, now that I think about it.
you right, i just had my key in position 1 when filming this video
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Carterhkrs- When I first bought my car , I took it in thinking something was wrong. On the invoice they billed me an hour cuz they thought the pads weren't put in properly and they properly put them in.

I went back and spoke with the foreman and he drove it and told me that it is the SBC and they had to refund me the money.

Shardul I have tried excessive pulsation or what you are saying but it isn't , there is a method based on which they check. I am not sure but there is a

number of acceptable pulsation/vibration/fillings per depressing of the brake. So just saying I don't like pulsation won't make them replace it.

SBC system is a wonderful system. The more you read about it the more you'd like it. There are some features which shadows the good aspects of it for

example the sound and what not lol

The system also activates sometimes once you unlock your car, the car does a lot of pre-checks before you start your car. Sometimes when you unlock your car you'd hear cranks

and creaks , that's the system running a pre-check. We expect the car to be uber quiet being a luxury car but we have to realize our cars are indeed 10-11 years old lol

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Originally Posted by Carterhkrs
Appreciate responses guys... Is there a part # for dampener?

SHARDUL: the pulsation that u felt was just random? did you only feel it in a brake pedal or throughout the vehicle?




you right, i just had my key in position 1 when filming this video
On the brake pedal
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