Manuyc

all motors are not created equal don't be cheap if you want a custom tune its $150 an hour like they said. no one works for free. eurocharged spent a few hours custom tuning my beast of ragetek and it was worth every penny. its not easy

romeomikehotel

Still doesnt answer my question

I understand that it may take some time in the beginning but once they've done the custom tuning and know what it takes to close the bypass valve it idle (if that is the issue) then it should be rather simple to implement on any subsequent tunes.
So my question still stands, would each new customer have to pay the same custom tune amount or would the cost drop over time as the difficulty decreases?


And to the folks who think the rattle at idle is something we should just "deal with": The idea of just dealing with it as is goes completely against the concept of modifying and improving cars in the first place. We are on a quest for improvements... Asking that a product system be improved to its full potential is completely reasonable.
But for those that are willing to accept it as is I hope you enjoy it and look forward to more review posts.

rockthemullet

You're the first to complain about the side effect. If the majority of those with EC fixed pulley tunes had an issue with it, I'm sure it would be explored. If it bothers you enough, EC has stated they're willing to try and fix it. If they then implement those changes in later revisions for all users, that's their choice unless you request that the changes you're paying for are proprietary...

If you have an issue with paying R&D for something that others would get for free, I guess you'll have to wait until someone else has the same complaint and is willing to throw the money down. I understand your case, but in this case the numbers simply are not behind you.

Manuyc

iv had the 77mm pulley on my car since they came out and love it. I have gone about 150mph with the pulley on with no problems. drove to Miami twice with the pulley on from tampa which is about 4.5hrs drive with no problems, I did have the hiccup problem. but to solve that hiccup I just moved the resistor to the passenger side cabin. I do have the rattle at idle but when you rev the car at idle just over 1k rpm's it goes away so it most likely just chatter like they say. I just sold my 77mm and opted for the 74mm and cant wait to install it.

romeomikehotel

I'm not looking to get into an argument here but I want to be clear that I am certainly not the first to have an issue with it. If you had read through the earlier posts or any links to other threads discussing the issue you would see that. However, I appreciate your input.


Thanks for sharing your experience. I'm very tempted to do the 77mm but I need to do more cooling mods and get more comfortable with the idea of the noise at idle. Glad to hear you've had a good experience with it

rockthemullet

You misunderstood. I said you are the first to complain, not the first to have it. You are bringing it up to EC... others like Manuyc, have experienced it but are not stressing about it and looking for additional work on a generic file.

A canned/box tune is made to work with a plethora of vehicles and customers. This should never be considered an end all be all tune for your application... this is a 'good enough' tune. That is the attitude on every platform I've had my hands on, I don't know why the low quantity M113k application would be any different. If you want something outside of the standard canned/box tune (that others have and are content with), pay for it.

sales@eurocharged.com

bump

B Feelgood

Can this rattle noise at idle be tuned/fixed remotely? I'd love to buy one of these fixed pulleys but don't want to have that noise at idle. I live in PA so I can't bring my car to your shop for in person diagnostics and testing obviously.

E55GHi5

what do you mean with "moved the resistor to the passenger side cabin"
So i am from germany, my english is very well, but i don´t understand what you done against the hicup!

Thanks!

NafisC

Hey all.

I have the 74mm pulley currently installed on the car and I'm just waiting to reflash the car with Jerry's tune so I can make a review for you guys.

My only dilemma, is that the hardware connection light on the V2 program never lights green when it is connected so I am unable to send the tune to Eurocharged. Does anyone have any ideas? A new cable maybe?

Thanks

kponti

Anyone of you guys with a hiccup, when was the last time you changed your fuel filter unit?

jonnyc

try running the program "as administrator'

NafisC

I've tried running as the administrator on 3 separate laptops and it just doesn't work :/

It keeps telling me I need to install flash drivers which I already installed.

Manuyc

when i had the resistor in the engine bay, it would get a lot of heat soak and not operate properly. so Denroll gave me the idea to move the resistor inside the car and place it under the dashboard on the passenger side so it stays cool. and i also went with a 1000 ohm resistor instead of the 550 that came with the fixed pulley. search for Denroll resistor moved to inside cabin.

B Feelgood

@Eurocharged

luisdiazelite

Waiting for the 74mm fsp review

DVC

Jerry- You have my interest piqued here! Do you mean the customer has a block-off plate, so that essentially the flap is closed 100% of the time?

How did his IATs look at idle?

Also, would this "cure" the engagement chop that sometimes occurs with a clutched pulley? Or is that the TB?

Hulk

He most probably installed a bov of some sorts

DVC

Hmm, a blow off valve on a blower? Maybe on a centrifugal, but i can't see the point on a twinscrew?

Hulk

https://mbworld.org/forums/w211-amg/550196-car-thinks-has-blow-off-valve.html#post6114202

Post #9

DVC

Thanks Hulk. Just can't figure out what he's trying to achieve with BOVs on a PD blower. I did find some WOT IAT logs from GT-ER running the bypass valve disconnected (full time closed) vs normal op....not a whole lotta difference.

Hulk

If you disconnect the bpv , you would get esp or limp mode because the bpv stays open

DVC

His stayed closed and he made full boost. I'll link the logs.

DVC

https://mbworld.org/forums/w211-amg/...ct-bypass.html

Hulk

Nope it will go limp or ESP. Look at post #6

It stays open