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[QUOTE=emoving;5900646]
Talk about stupid, how would I get stopped for a suspended license if I don't have one? We can argue silly off point straw man arguments all day. I can't care if you don't believe the Supreme Court's ruling or don't want to learn something beneficial to your well being...just don't pretend to know something you don't and represent your "belief" as fact.
. The main point that you've lost due to your innate ignorance is that, even people who are supposed to enforce the law often times don't know the laws they're enforcing or the rights they're supposed to recognize. I hope even you can agree with that!
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I would agree with you on that point. This guy for instance really had no right to take this kid any further then the initial contact unless he detected alcohol or could articulate some other criminal activity.
Your second point is plain stupid. So lets say you get stopped for a suspended license, are you going to win that one in court and just argue you should have never been required to obtain one in the first place?
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I would agree with you on that point. This guy for instance really had no right to take this kid any further then the initial contact unless he detected alcohol or could articulate some other criminal activity.
Your second point is plain stupid. So lets say you get stopped for a suspended license, are you going to win that one in court and just argue you should have never been required to obtain one in the first place?
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Are you actually serious? You have a document of unknown origin that has a big bold heading that talks about the Supreme Court. But page after page is citations to state courts - not even federal courts, let alone the Supreme Court. The one cite to the Supreme Court is just some out of context quote that says nothing of the sort. You tout this sort of internet garbage as the source of your knowledge? Yikes.
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Talk about stupid, how would I get stopped for a suspended license if I don't have one? We can argue silly off point straw man arguments all day. I can't care if you don't believe the Supreme Court's ruling or don't want to learn something beneficial to your well being...just don't pretend to know something you don't and represent your "belief" as fact.
I don't believe anything in that 4 page of nonsense you provided states that as a person living in the United States is not required to have a drivers license.
The second was a simple question which you obviously again chose to ignore. Your an internet know it all and the crap you pull off the internet and pass on is the reason the county is in the condition it is.
Talk about stupid, how would I get stopped for a suspended license if I don't have one? We can argue silly off point straw man arguments all day. I can't care if you don't believe the Supreme Court's ruling or don't want to learn something beneficial to your well being...just don't pretend to know something you don't and represent your "belief" as fact.
I don't believe anything in that 4 page of nonsense you provided states that as a person living in the United States is not required to have a drivers license.
The second was a simple question which you obviously again chose to ignore. Your an internet know it all and the crap you pull off the internet and pass on is the reason the county is in the condition it is.
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Are you actually serious? You have a document of unknown origin that has a big bold heading that talks about the Supreme Court. But page after page is citations to state courts - not even federal courts, let alone the Supreme Court. The one cite to the Supreme Court is just some out of context quote that says nothing of the sort. You tout this sort of internet garbage as the source of your knowledge? Yikes.
I'm glad someone on here has a brain tonight. I was getting worried.
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Are you actually serious? You have a document of unknown origin that has a big bold heading that talks about the Supreme Court. But page after page is citations to state courts - not even federal courts, let alone the Supreme Court. The one cite to the Supreme Court is just some out of context quote that says nothing of the sort. You tout this sort of internet garbage as the source of your knowledge? Yikes.
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"Persons faced with an unconstitutional licensing law which purports to require a license as a
prerequisite to exercise of right... may ignore the law and engage with impunity in exercise of
such right." Shuttlesworth v. Birmingham 394 U.S. 147 (1969).
Here is the case in summary!!!
Shuttlesworth v. Birmingham, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Case_citation (1969), Petitioner, a Negro minister who helped lead 52 Negroes in an orderly civil rights march in Birmingham, Ala. in 1963, was arrested and convicted for violating § 1159 of the city's General Code, an ordinance which proscribes participating in any parade or procession on city streets or public ways without first obtaining a permit from the City Commission. Section 1159 permits the Commission to refuse a parade permit if its members believe "the public welfare, peace, safety, health, decency, good order, morals or convenience require that it be refused." Petitioner had previously been given to understand by a member of the Commission that under no circumstances would petitioner and his group be allowed to demonstrate in Birmingham. The Alabama Court of Appeals reversed the conviction on the grounds, inter alia, that § 1159, as written, unconstitutionally imposed an "invidious prior restraint" without ascertainable standards for the granting of permits, and that the ordinance had been discriminatorily enforced. However, the Alabama Supreme Court in 1967 narrowly construed § 1159 as an objective, even-handed traffic regulation which did not allow the Commission unlimited discretion in granting or withholding permits, and upheld petitioner's conviction.
LOL!!!! Its about a minister who did not have a "parade permit" to march in the street.
Clown!!!
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I do agree that he had his window down and was able to converse. There was no reason make him roll it down completely. He got pissed quick but he was legally there and has a legal right to check his driving status and well being as stated by the Supreme Court. Once he could not smell alcohol or detect drugs, he should have passed him through. Our Ohio Supreme Court says the contact should be over within about 30 seconds if none of the above are detected. It is funny that this little a$$clown went out with the intention of being a little ***** and got what he wanted.
There is a significant variation state to state what rights the state gives or takes away.
In Texas, it is not legal, at least according to: http://www.ghsa.org/html/stateinfo/l...oint_laws.html
In south Carolina, they can stop you and ask for your license, by law you do not have to give it to them or answer any questions.
Personnel I think it's more trouble than it's worth to **** off the cops, but if you want to put up with a power struggle (as in the video) I am all for you.
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emoving,
There are many cases that were simply used to establish certain legal precedents for future rulings. Look up the Supreme Court precedent for "Right to Travel". The link refers to a case unrelated to driving without a license but it's precedent was used many times to successfully win state cases for driving without a license.
Sorry that it takes more than a simpleton to understand this...
There are many cases that were simply used to establish certain legal precedents for future rulings. Look up the Supreme Court precedent for "Right to Travel". The link refers to a case unrelated to driving without a license but it's precedent was used many times to successfully win state cases for driving without a license.
Sorry that it takes more than a simpleton to understand this...
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emoving,
There are many cases that were simply used to establish certain legal precedents for future rulings. Look up the Supreme Court precedent for "Right to Travel". The link refers to a case unrelated to driving without a license but it's precedent was used many times to successfully win state cases for driving without a license.
Sorry that it takes more than a simpleton to understand this...
There are many cases that were simply used to establish certain legal precedents for future rulings. Look up the Supreme Court precedent for "Right to Travel". The link refers to a case unrelated to driving without a license but it's precedent was used many times to successfully win state cases for driving without a license.
Sorry that it takes more than a simpleton to understand this...
Haaaaa! That's your response. You like to use your big lingo here to impress everyone but your are simply a tool. You posted some bogus PDF you pulled out of your a$$ and all I did was research the only one that said anything about license! Its a about a parade license you dip*****! Your such a clown you didn't research the crap you posted to prove your bullcrap belief!
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WhyI don't know super Jim, why don't you ask super chromikey and maybe he could pull a pdf out or his a$$ that says you can do whatever you want. I believe he is the kind of guy that has one for any law you decide your against.
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Haaaaa! That's your response. You like to use your big lingo here to impress everyone but your are simply a tool. You posted some bogus PDF you pulled out of your a$$ and all I did was research the only one that said anything about license! Its a about a parade license you dip*****! Your such a clown you didn't research the crap you posted to prove your bullcrap belief!
Btw, sorry if the word "precedent" was too big of a word for you!
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Right, keep posting your nonsense PDF's you pull out of your a$$ before checking into them. Keep deflecting that fact! I hope you studied more in medical school then you did on the PDF. Keep it up with the big grammar.....I am sure everyone is at least impressed with that! Clown! That's funny, now your clown document excuse is that the parade pass case set precedent for the driving without a license case. You really believe the crap you spew! I feel bad for the people that come to you for help.
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Now we have the new guys clashing with the older guys over nonsense and no one gets along
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Used to be about guys learning to go fast, breaking records, track rentals good/mediocre/bad tuners, My tuner is better, my nuts are heavier..
Now we have the new guys clashing with the older guys over nonsense and no one gets along
Nonetheless Still entertaining
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Gotta Love the new MBW
Used to be about guys learning to go fast, breaking records, track rentals good/mediocre/bad tuners, My tuner is better, my nuts are heavier..
Now we have the new guys clashing with the older guys over nonsense and no one gets along
Nonetheless Still entertaining
Used to be about guys learning to go fast, breaking records, track rentals good/mediocre/bad tuners, My tuner is better, my nuts are heavier..
Now we have the new guys clashing with the older guys over nonsense and no one gets along
Nonetheless Still entertaining
Good point!!! Shouldn't this have been posted in the off-topic section!
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Right, keep posting your nonsense PDF's you pull out of your a$$ before checking into them. Keep deflecting that fact! I hope you studied more in medical school then you did on the PDF. Keep it up with the big grammar.....I am sure everyone is at least impressed with that! Clown!
http://www.lawfulpath.com/ref/DLbrief.shtml
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Here's an argument prepared citing several of the cases provided in that "nonsense" that you couldn't understand very well. The author is unknown so I'm sure that nullifies any useful information in your limited intellectual capacity...but that's out of my control.
http://www.lawfulpath.com/ref/DLbrief.shtml
http://www.lawfulpath.com/ref/DLbrief.shtml
It is really hard to argue with someone that pulls made up crap off of the internet. Your Google skills are clearly outstanding and we are all very proud of you. It is kind of like arguing with a liar, there is no win in the situation because the truth will not come out. So keep searching for your BS documents that have no bearing and keep using your big words and everyone will forget about this thread and the false made up PDF internet crap you spewed.
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Here's an argument prepared citing several of the cases provided in that "nonsense" that you couldn't understand very well. The author is unknown so I'm sure that nullifies any useful information in your limited intellectual capacity...but that's out of my control.
http://www.lawfulpath.com/ref/DLbrief.shtml
http://www.lawfulpath.com/ref/DLbrief.shtml
Ohhh no, I believe everything that is on the internet that people just throw up there. Man you are a total clown. Especially your militia crap!
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