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Eliminating secondary cats, how does the sound change?

Old Jan 10, 2014 | 06:29 PM
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Eliminating secondary cats, how does the sound change?

How does deleting the secondary cats alone change the E55 exhaust sound? Does it change tone, more raspy, just louder? Is it worth the effort for power gains?

I just secured E63 mufflers and will be installing soon on an otherwise completely stock exhaust. I may end up changing the mufflers and leaving it at that, but i'm entertaining the idea of opening up the system a bit more.
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Old Jan 10, 2014 | 07:45 PM
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Originally Posted by Ken311
How does deleting the secondary cats alone change the E55 exhaust sound? Does it change tone, more raspy, just louder? Is it worth the effort for power gains?

I just secured E63 mufflers and will be installing soon on an otherwise completely stock exhaust. I may end up changing the mufflers and leaving it at that, but i'm entertaining the idea of opening up the system a bit more.
It will sound a little louder-deeper with secondary removed. Try the mufflers next and see how you like the sound, before maybe removing the resonator next.
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Old Jan 10, 2014 | 08:38 PM
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You think secondaries and mufflers? Any sound clips of that?
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Old Jan 10, 2014 | 08:49 PM
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Originally Posted by 55fanatic
You think secondaries and mufflers? Any sound clips of that?
Yeah that's exactly what I was thinking. I heard a video of mufflers only and many videos of mufflers w/secondaries AND resonator removed. If anyone has a sound clip/vid of secondaries only and mufflers, that would be great.

I listened to this 55 with mufflers only and really like the sound -

To me, having both removed makes it a bit too loud and raspy for my taste. I was thinking removing the secondaries only might give some extra volume/throatiness without losing the deep tone. It seems to me the resonator is there to smooth the sound out and eliminate the rasp.
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Old Jan 11, 2014 | 11:40 PM
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Any more input? Even just some additional commentary on how the sound changes with the secondaries removed would be appreciated
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Old Jan 14, 2014 | 03:05 PM
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Old Jan 16, 2014 | 12:49 AM
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IMHO it changes the tone in a bad way
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