Toadster

looking to install my Kleemann Headers (finally!)

anyone have pics of a good install? searching for "Kleemann Headers" results in a bunch of signature hits and I can't find any good links from just a 'title' search..

berti_00

I saw a thread somewhere diy

MAN55LE

It's ok.... it's in the sticky DIY for headers doesn't have to be Kleemann, putting in headers is headers ....use 17 mm wrench to pull the plugs... try not to break any studs and if some the studs come out with nuts one...you can just reuse. Gunna have to weld....gunna take twice as long as you think. Use new gaskets and nuts that comes with it.

E55Greasemonkey

"search this forum"
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Check the box for "titles only"

EREBUS

I see busted and bloody knuckles in your future, young Jedi. Oh the fun I had installing those......

Toadster

LOL ok, i guess I need to order some gaskets duh!

LOL - not my knuckles

exactly what I did, came up with some old stuff from 2005

CharlyE500

If Toad can't find it then there is no where to find.

berti_00

thats what i thought too

might not be a diy but shows something

https://mbworld.org/forums/e-class-w...lots-pics.html

turbo97se

I didn't think that Kleemann's could be DIYed ... thought they were weld in. But like someone said, installing headers is installing headers. Headers on this car are the easiest I have installed on any car. The copper nuts are so easy to remove and replace. 10mm gear wrench is very helpful for install. I replaced all the nuts, studs and gaskets. It's not difficult, just time consuming. Tall jack stands are a help, lift would have been nice. have fun!

shardul

iTrader: (1)

Couple of weekends ago it took us 1.5 hrs to install these . Yes we had a lift and and 2 people were working on the car at any given time

turbo97se

Damn! I'm super slow then ... Took me 6 hours on my own with Jackstands ... Took my time so no busted knuckles I also hung new exhaust. Might as well do exhaust while you're there

lm7

Todd of course you would wait for Dave to move to finally decide to install these lol!

Toadster

no joke!

Toadster

those are great! just wish they were running into the 2ndary cats (what I plan on doing)

I'm a fan of power, but I also want to be SMOG conscious too

turbo97se

Emissions is a joke in California. They failed my Sequoia with Fed spec catalytic converter because it did not have Cali spec converter - visual only. Replaced it with Cali spec converter and the results were worse than with my old Fed spec converter. ... still passed though.

Toadster

yes, I understand.... my 11 year old pennsylvania car burned cleaner than the new CA car we had purchased

but I'm not big on the smell of raw gas anyways - at least not for a daily driver

today I took our Miata over to get smogged, and it was the 'new' system - took about 10 minutes, ECU passed, quick visual - and DONE!

Toadster

pics? or tips? where's the best weld spot?

Toadster

which exhaust gaskets are best to use? seeing a couple kinds..

1 set seems to be individual gaskets per cylinder (8 needed)


and the other style looks to be a left/right side (2 long pieces)




what's everyone prefer?

MAN55LE

If you got it from Kleeman they come with in the packaging. gaskets, new brass nuts, referring to your two pictures the upper picture......thats you need if you were going to buy them individually, but they should come right in the packaging from Kleemann

berti_00

+1

why you looking for gaskets. they came with gaskets nuts and all

E55Greasemonkey

10mm gear wrench is your friend for this job. You'll also have to disconnect the steering shaft at the rack (just the one end-13mm). The gaskets and nuts included with the headers are O.E.M... As O.C.D. as I can be, I ordered the factory nuts and gaskets, and couldn't believe they were exactly the same as the ones from Kleemann. Youll have to cut the pipes right behind the primary cats and take the car to a muffler shop. I can't tell you where to cut them because I cut mine too short...ughh..I would say cut them at the weld on the cat...the muffler shop can always shorten them.

turbo97se

I used these. Never seen the others before

turbo97se

Oh yeah .. if you have to disconnect steering rack set it back (towards the driver) before disconnecting. It took me a while to figure it out. Mine was forward and it causes the slider to not clear.

cm60k

Is that picture of 1 piece long gasket for M119 Engine...!, i think Kleemann not provides 1 piece gasket, isn't...?

usually, M113 comes with separate gasket pieces....!!

ZAYED,,

E55Greasemonkey

You also need at least 2 6mm nuts. Some of the studs will unscrew from the heads with the 6mm nuts still attached. You need to double nut these studs then remove the 10mm nut. Then screw them back into the head and tighten. Then remove the 2 6mm nuts. Dpuble