W211 AMG Discuss the W211 AMG's such as the E55 and the E63

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Old Aug 13, 2014 | 09:40 PM
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the butterfly on the bypass remains closed during the pull. it starts to breakup and we let off, butterfly starts to open at that point.

this kit was not meant to be experimental, but rather a bolt on and tune purchase. IPS has been contacted as they have been zero help accept for sending 44mm waste gates. they did so because we told them to, as we had spent thousands on top of the kit price trying to fix this mess.

the kit is coming off, as I don't have time to eff with it anymore, and there are a couple massive events coming up that I need to get the car ready for. the kit will be returned to IPS, and we have asked for a full refund.
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Old Aug 13, 2014 | 10:10 PM
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Suck bro. Maybe Rage-tek is the only one with enough ability to build a TT kit for the E55.
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Old Aug 13, 2014 | 10:11 PM
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That's not a knock on you guys BTW. You didn't build the kit.
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Old Aug 13, 2014 | 10:12 PM
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Not trying to stir anything up here but what gives, I thought the kit was supposedly ready to go needs nothing, at least thats how the IPS fanboys made it seem when Paul was doing his thing.

It really sucks to hear your going back after everything but I completely understand. I really *really* do. GL on your next journey.. 3L blower next?
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Old Aug 13, 2014 | 10:13 PM
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Sometimes you have to just walk away. You're running out of time for Clayton, so I fully understand you running out of patience. Too bad it didn't work as advertised. What's next? Maybe a Weistec Supercharger????
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Old Aug 13, 2014 | 10:21 PM
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Sorry Chawkins , go weistec.
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Old Aug 13, 2014 | 10:25 PM
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Originally Posted by SterlingE55
Suck bro. Maybe Rage-tek is the only one with enough ability to build a TT kit for the E55.
Wrong!
Only one with a true proven working TT was clstt(binh)
He gave charts showing afr iat and boost, time slips. Nothing has been proven from rbj because if he goes over a certain boost(prolly 13-14psi) he will have the same issues as Chawkins.please let's keep this about this build from bip and not some other guy.
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Old Aug 14, 2014 | 01:40 AM
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Originally Posted by turbo97se
You can probably look at it and tell. If it is wide open when it starts falling on its face, that may well be your issue.

If you can't code it out, that will be an issue. You may need to boost clamp and add fuel controller (additional injector in boost pipe) to get you through this as a workaround.

If you are more adventurous, it may be possible to piggyback an AEM or other Standalone. I did this on Lexus IS300 allowing the stock ECU to control all functions (including drive by wire throttle) and the "standalone" controlling fuel and timing. No messing with CAN then. Not sure if the Mercedes stock ECU would be smart enough to tell if injectors and coils were disconnected. None of the cars I did this on had issues.
Yes the ECU is smart enough, you're comparing apples to oranges when it comes to what MBZ does and what Lexus does. On top of that the IS system in the 98-05 is a gen behind the W211, you can compare the 06+ IS.

Originally Posted by chiromikey
^^^THIS!!!

This should have been attempted YEARS ago, turbos or not!
MoTeC + 722.6 Standalone TCU controller. Just for giggles go watch every video on JRCARTs CLK63 BS, you'll notice 2 things, MoTeC and they cover up the shifter to hide something??

Originally Posted by sk8erjosh09
I'm pretty sure I have what you're looking for if you want everything functional on a stock ECU except the bypass valve. . .

Like I said earlier, if you wanted to run that direction to just let me know. I have no way to test without consequence, but you do...
More info? Just glanced over your swap thread, seems like you know what you're doing.

Originally Posted by chiromikey
^^^THIS!!!

This should have been attempted YEARS ago, turbos or not!
Well at least we finally crossed off spark plugs and that the turbos might be bad.

Originally Posted by chawkins2001
the butterfly on the bypass remains closed during the pull. it starts to breakup and we let off, butterfly starts to open at that point.

this kit was not meant to be experimental, but rather a bolt on and tune purchase. IPS has been contacted as they have been zero help accept for sending 44mm waste gates. they did so because we told them to, as we had spent thousands on top of the kit price trying to fix this mess.

the kit is coming off, as I don't have time to eff with it anymore, and there are a couple massive events coming up that I need to get the car ready for. the kit will be returned to IPS, and we have asked for a full refund.
You never even got this thing TUNED. You're not going to get crazy HP with the stock ECU. Not sure if you didn't realize this or your 'tuner' said hes the best and AMG engineers prevented that.
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Old Aug 14, 2014 | 08:10 AM
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Originally Posted by chawkins2001
the butterfly on the bypass remains closed during the pull. it starts to breakup and we let off, butterfly starts to open at that point.

this kit was not meant to be experimental, but rather a bolt on and tune purchase. IPS has been contacted as they have been zero help accept for sending 44mm waste gates. they did so because we told them to, as we had spent thousands on top of the kit price trying to fix this mess.

the kit is coming off, as I don't have time to eff with it anymore, and there are a couple massive events coming up that I need to get the car ready for. the kit will be returned to IPS, and we have asked for a full refund.
Well that's that then.. the bypass is only reacting to TPS changes, meaning the ecu is not separately controlling it as a failsafe. Sorry you have to go through all this man, I know it's a very frustrating process

Originally Posted by hpV12
Not trying to stir anything up here but what gives, I thought the kit was supposedly ready to go needs nothing, at least thats how the IPS fanboys made it seem when Paul was doing his thing.

It really sucks to hear your going back after everything but I completely understand. I really *really* do. GL on your next journey.. 3L blower next?
Anyone can build a turbo kit. The hardware on a turbo setup is arguably the easiest part.

Originally Posted by biggking
MoTeC + 722.6 Standalone TCU controller. Just for giggles go watch every video on JRCARTs CLK63 BS, you'll notice 2 things, MoTeC and they cover up the shifter to hide something??
So others have noticed too? I actually don't think it's an MB transmission at all... likely a vacuum operated Chevy unit.
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Old Aug 14, 2014 | 11:22 AM
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Originally Posted by biggking
More info? Just glanced over your swap thread, seems like you know what you're doing.
Like I said, I can't test the theory but I'm pretty sure the ECU I just accidentally built, trying to do something else, would work for someone trying to get rid of the bypass valve.
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Old Aug 14, 2014 | 12:12 PM
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At least we now know (even with the huge amount of time and $$$ you put into it) that the turbo was not bolt on as advertised when TTE55 had it.
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Old Aug 14, 2014 | 12:22 PM
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I don't think IPS stated the kit was complete. They were in the process of dealing with the spark blow out issue when the deal fell apart with Paul. I think Chawkins knew there was still some R&D that needed done and that IPS never had a chance to get it fully operational. either way, Buckhead & Chawk put some serious time and money into this project and couldn't get it to work and if any shop could, they would be a shop to do it. I assume IPS would have had the same poor results if they had stuck with it.
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Old Aug 14, 2014 | 02:35 PM
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I'm sorry it didn't work out for you. We were all looking forward to seeing the next level of performance. I can appreciate your tenacity, but this is just the absolute wrong platform for these types of modifications. 12 years working on them, 19 years in the business and I know a thing or two about the over engineered electronic complexity that makes these things tick.

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Old Aug 14, 2014 | 07:59 PM
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Sorry to see the TT kit did not work out. May your next round of mods go super smooth and the car turn out to be crazy fast.
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Old Aug 14, 2014 | 09:34 PM
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Originally Posted by Joncl
Wrong!
Only one with a true proven working TT was clstt(binh)
He gave charts showing afr iat and boost, time slips. Nothing has been proven from rbj because if he goes over a certain boost(prolly 13-14psi) he will have the same issues as Chawkins.please let's keep this about this build from bip and not some other guy.
Wrong!!
RBJ has gone to the track twice and posted his slips both times!! Is it at it's full potential,not yet but to say he hasn't proven anything is false!!
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Old Aug 14, 2014 | 09:37 PM
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Good luck either way you decide to go Craig,I admire your persistence and your honesty about all of your findings..
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Old Aug 14, 2014 | 09:47 PM
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Wrong!!
RBJ has gone to the track twice and posted his slips both times!! Is it at it's full potential,not yet but to say he hasn't proven anything is false!!
Lmao! You are wrong!
Wow twice to the track lol
He hasn't been honest at all about that dumb build. No charts no nothing, I bet you that car is pig rich at least at the start of the run for sure and he can't fix it and btw let's see what happens when he ups the boost, FAIL.
Only 1 successful TT and built and tuned in 30 days, lol
Chawkins, honest man, no bull**** at all, no excuses
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Old Aug 14, 2014 | 09:58 PM
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Lmao! You are wrong!
Wow twice to the track lol
He hasn't been honest at all about that dumb build. No charts no nothing, I bet you that car is pig rich at least at the start of the run for sure and he can't fix it and btw let's see what happens when he ups the boost, FAIL.
Only 1 successful TT and built and tuned in 30 days, lol
Chawkins, honest man, no bull**** at all, no excuses
If your buddies TT was so successful why did he sell it and not keep going with it?? You have this personal vendetta against anything to do with RBJ,you take any opportunity to bash him and his build.. Since you seem to know everything why don't you build a TT E55 and show everybody how's it's done,it'll never happen!!
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Old Aug 14, 2014 | 10:06 PM
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Originally Posted by 305-E55
If your buddies TT was so successful why did he sell it and not keep going with it?? You have this personal vendetta against anything to do with RBJ,you take any opportunity to bash him and his build.. Since you seem to know everything why don't you build a TT E55 and show everybody how's it's done,it'll never happen!!
Because he built it to show that it could be done and accomplished it in 30 days and running 10s, the only cls55 running 10s btw, NO NOS!

The shop moved on to bigger things, fact.
The junky talks like he knows all but he doesn't. Like I said this is about bip not the junky, so if he wants he can open another thread to share his infinite wisdom and try to be honest then by all means.
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Old Aug 14, 2014 | 10:11 PM
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Because he built it to show that it could be done and accomplished it in 30 days and running 10s, the only cls55 running 10s btw, NO NOS!

The shop moved on to bigger things, fact.
The junky talks like he knows all but he doesn't. Like I said this is about bip not the junky, so if he wants he can open another thread to share his infinite wisdom and try to be honest then by all means.
He's not in here saying anything,someone else mentioned the shop that built his TT and you immediately started talking ****!! When you can build something that is remotely fast then you can talk ****!! Let me know when you have something to run besides your mouth..
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Old Aug 14, 2014 | 10:17 PM
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He's not in here saying anything,someone else mentioned the shop that built his TT and you immediately started talking ****!! When you can build something that is remotely fast then you can talk ****!! Let me know when you have something to run besides your mouth..
No , what was posted is that junky is the only one who can make a TT work which was a mistake. When you can run 10s without NOS then let me know. Until then , you think you can stop licking the junkys *****, he must be used to being a prag since he was in prison, maybe you were girlfriends lol
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Old Aug 14, 2014 | 10:23 PM
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No , what was posted is that junky is the only one who can make a TT work which was a mistake. When you can run 10s without NOS then let me know. Until then , you think you can stop licking the junkys *****, he must be used to being a prag since he was in prison, maybe you were girlfriends lol
When your little ***** *** can run 10's PERIOD,let me know!! Not going to get into an internet fight because I know you would never say any of this to my face because you're a little internet tough guy who hides behind a computer jerking off to RBJ,you're obsessed with him and just mad because he doesn't give you the time of day.. So like I said let me know when you have something to run besides your *** receptacle..
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Old Aug 14, 2014 | 10:24 PM
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Time to relax lol both let it go it's going no where fast(pun)
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Old Aug 14, 2014 | 10:26 PM
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Originally Posted by 305-E55
When your little ***** *** can run 10's PERIOD,let me know!! Not going to get into an internet fight because I know you would never say any of this to my face because you're a little internet tough guy who hides behind a computer jerking off to RBJ,you're obsessed with him and just mad because he doesn't give you the time of day.. So like I said let me know when you have something to run besides your *** receptacle..
I would say all this to your ugly face and make you my *** receptacle moron haha

Go gaggle on his ******* lol
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Old Aug 14, 2014 | 10:28 PM
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Time to relax lol both let it go it's going no where fast(pun)
He started lol
I'm done with this *** clown
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