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Old Jun 11, 2014 | 01:35 PM
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fighting dreaded steering wheel wobble/shimmy

just had new tires put on the fronts and all 4 wheels balanced by a wheel repair shop.

when i first re installed the wheels everything was fine, the more i started to drive the car 45mph to 70 mph the car would start to shimmy at the steering wheel again.

the shimmy/wobble is not all the time but is pretty frequent.

i already replaced driver lower ball joint due to sqeaking over bumps at low speeds and wheel bearing due to humming.

i have 5mm spacers up front that i will remove and see if it helps and plan on doing an alignment once i get this figured out.

thoughts on whats causing this?

update:
got the car on the lift, and noticed a little movement at the 12 and 6 position. 9 and 3 seems tight on both wheels
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Old Jun 11, 2014 | 01:40 PM
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12 o'clock and 9 o'clock movement normally is a sign of a bad wheel bearing.... But I'm not sure .....but you should definitely get that taken care of. It appears that you've been having a problem with wheel bearings and front end for a while (I checked your post history )...Did you buy the whole wheel bearing from Mercedes-Benz or you try to save a buck and buy just the bearings and press them in yourself yada yada yada?

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Old Jun 11, 2014 | 02:42 PM
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did it my self with bearing only. i will remove the wheel and re check. put on a decent amount of miles since ive done the bearing and its been quite ever since... hmm
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Old Jun 11, 2014 | 02:46 PM
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spacers are known to cause this issue.

Do you see the passenger seat move due to the vibration?

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Old Jun 11, 2014 | 03:19 PM
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yes pass seat moves as well.

i loosened the 5mm allen on the lock nut on the hub and was able to tighten the locknut a 1/8" by hand so i removed the bearing repacked it, re tightened and re assembled everything. as of now the wheel is tight in all directions. when i get out of work and go for a drive ill know for sure.

i literally just found my dial indicator with magnetic base after i re installed wheel, if issue re arrises i will do it with the indicator.
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Old Jun 11, 2014 | 05:16 PM
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H&R 5mm hubcentric spacers were the cause of steering wheel vibration on my car. Removed them and all is good!
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Old Jun 11, 2014 | 06:05 PM
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Originally Posted by E55amg/FD3S
H&R 5mm hubcentric spacers were the cause of steering wheel vibration on my car. Removed them and all is good!
Some spacers yes even H&R do not fit the hub well, if lose at all wrap your hub with metal tape as needed then put the spacer back on.

This fixed my issue a few times

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Old Jun 12, 2014 | 09:29 AM
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i will pop them out and see what happens... the wobble/shimmy is the same as before.

could a sticky caliper be causing this? i noticed when i spin the rotor by hand there is spot that catches . but when i reinstalled the wheels and spun them in the air they seemed to spinning on there own with 0 issues.
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Old Jun 12, 2014 | 12:29 PM
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hmm. i have the same issue. Have 5mm H&R spacers. But the center caps won't fit without the spacers on my wheels. I thought i just needed a hub centric ring.
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Old Jun 12, 2014 | 12:41 PM
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my front wheel offset is off a s500 , so they sit inside the wheel well a little. going to remove them later and report back.
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Old Jun 12, 2014 | 07:26 PM
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What type of balance did the wheel shop do, spin or road force? I had a vibration issue starting around 60mph, needed new front tires so had discount do a 4 wheel balance when I got the new fronts put on, vibration was still there and honestly felt a bit worse. Finally got around to getting a road force balance done at a different shop last weekend and bingo, smooth as glass...
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Old Jun 12, 2014 | 10:23 PM
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High road force in tires does not always show up on the initial mounting, and balancing process. After the tires have settled on the wheels it will become apparent. I would have the wheels rebalanced via road force with the current weights on. This will give you a better idea if it is your tires. Road force balancing should be performed on hot tires for best results.
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Old Jun 13, 2014 | 08:53 AM
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well the shimmy was indeed the spacers, removed them and for the last 30 miles it seems to have stopped.

i measured them on my granite table and tesla height guage, saw as much as .0090" of a difference between beetween the lug holes height.

going to try to order another billet set in 10mm with a hubcentric ring.

i actually started to lap these spacers on a granite plate with sand paper and the drivers one has all sorts of high and low spots.
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